The Wild West - All Things Western

[Random_Retard]

Merry Christmas to all of you!

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

To my fellow Wild West Freaks

 

[Remembermyname]

My friends, To you all my best wishes for 2025 and beyond.

 

[Remembermyname]

The film that ignited my interest as a boy in the Western....The Fastest Gun Alive 1956 starring the late great Glenn Ford.

 

[Stryker2011]

The film that ignited my interest as a boy in the Western....The Fastest Gun Alive 1956 starring the late great Glenn Ford.

Great movie. GF was always one of my favorite actors.

 

[killoware]

Love this BTTF3 outfit

 

[Asta]

American Primeval 6 episodes Western on Netflix 9th January 2025.

I went in blind, and from the title alone I was expecting it to be a horror. Having just finished the first episode I wasn't wrong.

It's a decidedly unromantic depiction of the west: visually grim with a succession of brutal incidents, and a constant air of foreboding.

Probably more realistic than most, though condensed and unrelenting.

 

[Asta]

On the subject of grim westerns, I thought the Nicolas Cage movie, The Old Way (2023), was brought up here. Can't find it though, nor anywhere else on the forum for that matter.

I realised the girl who played his daughter is Fern from Skeleton Crew.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

I went in blind, and from the title alone I was expecting it to be a horror. Having just finished the first episode I wasn't wrong.

It's a decidedly unromantic depiction of the west: visually grim with a succession of brutal incidents, and a constant air of foreboding.

Probably more realistic than most, though condensed and unrelenting.

This one is on my watch list and will probably start it this weekend. Looks nuts

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

 

[JacktheRipper]

He's even all dusty. Very authentic.

 

[Asta]

This one is on my watch list and will probably start it this weekend. Looks nuts

One thing that did stand out as nuts was the amount of money being talked about.

It's 1857 and a guy turns down $500 to take a woman and her child west. She ups her offer to $750.

Later there's talk of a $1500 reward.


For a guide to wages I found this for cowboys later in the nineteenth century, and the reward quoted would the equivalent of 2 1/2 to 4 years worth of income for a top hand, or 5 to 12 1/2 years for a cowhand.

How much money did cowboys make in the Old West?

Allen Jones
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The other answers are excellent but there’s also a range of wages just like any field:

1. Ranch or Drive Foreman/Manager. He may well earn bonuses or share in the profits. Sometimes he’s much more of a bookkeeper, professional manager (and incompetent too) hired by distant ranch owners in Scotland, England, France, or the East Coast. That was common by the 1880’s and remains so today.
2. Top Hand, a very skilled older cowboy with excellent judgement, very reliable, able to train novice cowboys, competes in rodeos, can manage a branding or round-up completely, knows how to do some medical treatment for cattle and horses, can help a cow birth a calf that’s having trouble getting out of the birth canal. Many small ranches didn’t have one of these or that’s what the founder/owner was, only large ranches and large cattle drives could afford 1–2 of these in the $30–50 month range.
3. Cook, often the oldest in the crew and often with old injuries or accumulated limitations like arthritis, repetitive motion wear, etc.. You paid more for a ranch cook or chuckwagon cook if you wanted to retain a crew and keep them content, a poor cook ruins even good food let alone making poor ingredients palatable.
4. Cowhand/Drover/Cowboy is a usually a younger man with a few years of cattle-herding experience and probably a farm or ranch childhood so skilled at many tasks like building corrals, cabins, barns, wells and used to harvesting/baling hay, shoveling manure, fixing and caring for saddles/tack/harnesses, able to drive a wagon. The bulk of the crew for a cattle drive or working ranch would be these guys. The most junior cowhands would be assigned to “ride drag” or at the back of the herd where the dust in the air was the most accumulated and exhausting to breathe through. 25 cents a day to $10–25/month, often at a rate set by the individual’s skills and capacities.
5. Wrangler has decent to good skills with horses but not yet with cattle, it’s a common entry-level job. Feeding a horse herd that ideally is 3–5 horses per cowboy so rotation maintains a high level of performance across very long days in a cattle drive or roundup while the horses would still outnumber the riders at most ranches. The wrangler herds the horses, checks them continually for injuries, infections, disease, and condition with leg and foot injuries most common, he may be able to do some basic farrier work (horseshoeing) but that’s often beyond his skills. He also trains and tames horses, often “breaking them”, a brutal and not particularly effective process common with cheap/free wild horses. He’s at the lowest pay rate and hopes to work up the ladder as well as most likely to quit.

Like all agricultural enterprises, cash was always in very short supply and the Old West took place during an economic depression/recession mostly as well as a period when the physical supply of money greatly lagged the need for currency so paying farm and ranch workers with meals, lodging, use of horses, saddles, rifles, books, wagons, bed linens and towels, laundry, etc. helped offset the cash shortfall in pay and is easy to overlook that coverage of nearly all direct living expenses.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

One thing that did stand out as nuts was the amount of money being talked about.

It's 1857 and a guy turns down $500 to take a woman and her child west. She ups her offer to $750.

Later there's talk of a $1500 reward.


For a guide to wages I found this for cowboys later in the nineteenth century, and the reward quoted would the equivalent of 2 1/2 to 4 years worth of income for a top hand, or 5 to 12 1/2 years for a cowhand.

Yeah, sounds a bit unrealistic
Most would have just robbed her and went about their day

He's even all dusty. Very authentic.

I never dust my Cowboys or Indy figs