there is no global warming...it's a myth

[FeatheredSerpent]

have they given up human sacrifice

or was that the aztecs!

Not sure, both maybe??? I know the mayans did but not sure about the aztecs..

 

[the Doctor]

Not sure, both maybe??? I know the mayans did but not sure about the aztecs..

if you have seen a sci-fi film called soylent green then thats where i think man kind and women are heading in the near future.

and i think most of us here on this board will see it and live it!

 

[Darth Madden]

Not sure, both maybe??? I know the mayans did but not sure about the aztecs..

I think they both did it. Maybe thats how they all dissapeared... too many sacrifices.

 

[Adoptedscot]

i think the freeze and warming are part of the same problem. whether we caused it or if it's the earth swatting the fleas on it's back, our near future generations are in big trouble.

Another good reason not to breed
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[tylerd]

Another good reason not to breed
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agreed.

 

[tylerd]

if you have seen a sci-fi film called soylent green then thats where i think man kind and women are heading in the near future.

and i think most of us here on this board will see it and live it!

soylent green is people.

i wish denise richards was soylent green.

 

[creecher]

wake up people,

Now where have I heard that catch cry before?

Doesn't matter if we caused it or not, we're certainly not helping ourselves by polluting and raping the planet. If we're to sustain the world's population we have to address long and short term problems. Money is the root of all evil so money is needed to fix it. Now someone fix that ozone layer, the sun, it burns.

 

[Anzik]

Ya think that maybe Greenland got its name because it used to be green?

Or Iceland cause it was covered in ice?

 

[Vader AL]

Ya think that maybe Greenland got its name because it used to be green?

Or Iceland cause it was covered in ice?

iceland and Greenland were named because.....

Iceland's first name, Thule or Ultima Thule, was mentioned by a Greek explorer and writer named Pytheas, who lived around 330 B.C. Nobody is sure whether he visited the island himself, or even if he really meant Iceland. Over a thousand years later, the monk Dicuil in his De mensura orbis terrae definitely meant Iceland when he reported that Irish priests started living in Thule at least part-time in the late eighth century. The source of information about the island's other three names is a twelfth-century Icelandic history based on oral tradition, called the Landnámabók. It confirms the story of the Irish priests in Iceland, and goes on to describe other early expeditions. The first Norseman to visit Iceland was a Viking named Naddoddur, who arrived about 850 after being driven off course. He gave the island its fitting second name, Snæland ("snow land") because so much snow fell on the mountains. Not long after, an ever-so-humble Swede named Garðar Svavarsson visited, and he gave the island its third name, Garðarshólmur ("Garðar's little island").

Iceland got its modern name from another visitor, the Norwegian Viking Flóki Vilgerðarson. The Landnámabók makes it clear that Flóki chose the uninviting name Ísland ("ice land") for the view of a distant fjord full of sea-ice that he glimpsed from a tall mountain. No doubt his choice was influenced by the fact that he was not at first taken with the land, and he bad-mouthed the place after his return to Norway. But eventually he changed his mind about it and moved there himself. The Landnámabók account is at odds with the common notion that Iceland was named for its glaciers, some of which are bigger than any in Europe.

You sometimes hear the story that Iceland was so named to discourage excessive immigration, but there seems to be no basis for this claim. Even if it's true, it didn't work very well. Between about 870 and 930, a period called the landnám, productive land in Iceland was free for the taking to all comers, and thousands of people immigrated from Norway, which was in political upheaval at the time. Landnám is usually translated "settlement," but "land grab" is a more literal translation and comes closer to the point. Incidentally, the Irish priests disappeared around the beginning of the landnám, probably muttering to themselves, "There goes the neighborhood."

Greenland got its name because its inhabitants sported blue-green skin from living near the sea. At least that's what Adam of Bremen wrote (in Latin) in the eleventh century. As the old proverb says, "A fool, unless he knows Latin, is never a great fool." I think it's safe to say that Adam of Bremen was a great fool, at least on this point.

The real story behind the name is given in Erik the Red's Saga, based on oral tradition and written down in the early thirteenth century in Iceland. After the Icelandic landnám was over, Erik the Red and his father Thorvald were forced to leave Norway because one or both of them was involved in killings (details are not given). After Thorvald died, Erik was involved in yet more killings, for which his punishment was three years' vacation--er, I mean banishment from Iceland. (And you thought O. J. got off easy.)

He used the time to explore the rumored lands to the west. When his term of banishment expired, he returned to Icleand to invite his neighbors and friends to settle the new country with him. He purposely chose the pleasant name Grænland ("green land") to attract settlers, but the choice wasn't exactly misleading. Some parts of Greenland, especially the parts the Norse settled, really are green, as these pictures from the tourist board attest (www.greenland-guide.dk/outdoor_life_photo.htm). He may have been a killer, but at least he wasn't a real-estate scam-artist. He didn't have that much to gain by lying anyway, since he didn't charge anyone for the land. As in Iceland a century before, the land was free for the taking. Natives had lived in the area in the past, but at the time of Erik's voyage, only the northern part of Greenland was occupied by the Inuit (Eskimos).

The unoccupied land in southern Greenland really was of much higher quality than anything that remained unclaimed in Iceland. The greenery that most interested the settlers was the pasturage, which was good enough to support their sheep, goats, horses, swine, and cattle. The Norsemen lived on the milk and meat from their livestock, supplemented with their catch of caribou, small game, fish, and sea mammals. No doubt they also partook of sea-bird eggs and berries. They were able to grow some grain (probably barley), but they must have had to import some as well. They also imported luxury goods, such as wine and silk. They could afford the imports because they sold wool, hides, and walrus and narwhal tusks. The last two items especially were in high demand in Europe. The trade continued for hundreds of years despite the fact that the voyage was always a dangerous one.

The Norse settlements in Greenland died out eventually, but they thrived for at least three centuries and survived almost five. Five hundred years is nothing to sneeze at when you consider that Jamestown was settled less than 400 years ago. The exact reason behind the failure is still an open question, but worsening climatic conditions, with a very cold period in the early- to mid-fifteenth century, surely contributed to it. A PBS documentary series, Secrets of the Dead, did an informative episode about the disappearance of the Greenland colony (www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/html/e2-menu.html).

 

[Anzik]

Exactly, but what did they look like back when they got their names?

 

[Kabukiman]

Exactly, but what did they look like back when they got their names?

About the same as they do now. Greenland was named by Eric the Red to trick people into going there. From what I understand, only the coastlines were ever green.

 

[Anzik]

The next migration came from the east, following "Erik the Red" Thorwaldsson's exploration of the southern coast of Greenland between 982 and 985 AD. In 986, he led a group of Viking families from Iceland, and settled at Brattahlid, traditionally known as Qassiarsuk (route map). The climate at this time was very warm, much wamer than it is today, and crops were able to do well. It seems likely that the name "Greenland" was given to the country, not just as wishful thinkful, but because it was a climatic fact at that time.

*excerpt from explorenorth.com
https://explorenorth.com/library/weekly/aa121799.htm

 

[gdb]

I don't care who started the climate change but I know that if the dinosaurs had the ability to keep their climate change from killing them off they would have tried. So I think we owe it to them, if not for our children, to try to make nice with the planet and stop posioning her -- and ourselves.

 

[Darth Loki]

We all know that global warming is real. But what I wonder is how much humans are playing in the role. The Earth has gone through cycles before (the ice age) so are we just going through another of her changes? But what if we're expediting these changes?

The real problem is that the polar ice caps melting will be a slippery slope. The ice reflects sunlight instead of absorbing it. When that ice is water, it will then absorb the sun's heat even more, thus raising the global temperature even more. It's a downward spiral that doesn't seem to have any way of reversing.

 

[creecher]

We all know that global warming is real. But what I wonder is how much humans are playing in the role.

All energy pretty much transforms and ends up as heat energy, so who is using the most energy? It sure aint the minerals and vegetables having a leading role, and out of the animals it's safe to say that humans are the culprits.

 

[tylerd]

sure makes sense that if the sun is being absorbed instead of reflected because of the ice melt, that the world would attempt to harness that heat to convert to energy, not disband the effort.