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It's not really about McGowan though is it... it's about Weinstein. Casting couch culture isn't a whore narrative, it's a power-lecher narrative.

It's about her when she's calling out men (not women) who she claims knew what he was doing but said nothing, yet she said nothing, took hush money, associated with him after the fact then kept her mouth shut for a very long time. Hypocritical on her part.

Oh well, I'm beating a dead horse here. It's all a mess. Now there's a Playboy bunny accusing Oliver Stone of touching her **** at one of Hefner's parties. She didn't remember it until she read about Weinstein. The Pandora's box is now open.
 
Women love eating **** sandwiches for a handout and then complaining that it tasted bad after and made them sick when they knew that was the outcome from the beginning. This new situation is not so much different.

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d) if these allegations are true - incredibly likely - than she's nothing less than a victim of a powerful *** predator who used his influence to present her with an ultimatum: stfu or forget about a career in film

But that's exactly the issue....I dunno about most people, but if someone told me to bend over or else I wouldn't ups have to find another career.....I WOULD FIND ANOTHER CAREER!!!!

And let's not forget that this guy is not GOD. I am sure people could have worked around him and made it as well....maybe harder to do but seriously....if your willing to sell your body to get what you want in a career....well there is a name for that...


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To make $20,000,000 a year not only would I watch Weinstein shower, I'd handle the lufa


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But that's exactly the issue....I dunno about most people, but if someone told me to bend over or else I wouldn't ups have to find another career.....I WOULD FIND ANOTHER CAREER!!!!

And let's not forget that this guy is not GOD. I am sure people could have worked around him and made it as well....maybe harder to do but seriously....if your willing to sell your body to get what you want in a career....well there is a name for that...

I'm not about to condemn a 20-something aspiring actress who has almost certainly already worked and committed pretty hard towards a career in acting before she finds herself before Weinstein. Finding any time to condemn her, or label all these women whores and sluts, repositions the machinery driving the culture.
 
Cant both be wrong?

At what point does deciding screwing for money, be it a job, or cold hard cash just become prostitution?

They keep saying "****" ......**** is a violent, angry act. This is not ****....


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If a person is in a place of authority and intimidates a subordinate into performing *** acts, that is ****. An adult grooming a child to consent to perform *** acts is ****. The fact this is even up for discussion disgusts me. **** is not just narrowly defined as a person forcibly inserting their ***** into another person with a knife to their throat.

Sorry. Out of this discussion. [emoji20]
 
Well no one is talking about children here....

But at what point does an adult walk away? I dont care what authority a person suppose to have.....you .....walk.....away.......

I guess we are talking about powerless people ? Dunno...


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If a 28 year old has “consensual ***” with a 14 year old, is that ****?

:gah now I’m really out. I’d rather read riddick slagging off Star Wars or people who are disgusted because HT is reusing Han Solo boots of their Jedi Luke figure, than discuss this.
 
Cant both be wrong?

At what point does deciding screwing for money, be it a job, or cold hard cash just become prostitution?

They keep saying "****" ......**** is a violent, angry act. This is not ****....

No, both can't be wrong. The power imbalance attributes culpability to the instigator.
 
Let me clarify....

It's difficult to feel sympathy for ADULT people who profited after this abuse and remained silent.....to me people in this boat are also culpable in the abuses that came after because they could have spoken out and did not....and what's worse....they advanced themselves in their silence....

The victims I feel for, the real victims and heroes in this story are people we will never know about. Those who told this scumbag to f" off and walked out, and tried to blow the whistle and were silenced...

The horror is the kids who may have been abused and their own parents may have been told and did nothing because it would have stopped the checks rolling in....

Also there may be a ton of people around this guy who knew well what was going on....but they also remained silent to protect their own interests. So basically anyone who was profiting from this behavior , and stays silent , to me, is also to blame for the abuses that continued.

Those who have maintained the story about this guy for years, should be awarded medals and damages for the years of lost wages.



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