I agree with you Sithlord but I'm not overly protective of OSB, I'm just trying to be fair. I've said from day one that they are different to MB and are not (in my opinion or to my limited knowledge of the situation) trying to scam people.
They've had a catalogue of disasters (shipping, illness) which lead to them taking advice from forums and social media and bringing somebody else into the circle. That hasn't worked out obviously. The customers wanted updates and Mazz started giving them but was soon overwhelmed. Their FB page has 7000 likes. That's a lot of admin to deal with. I personally have no idea if Mazz is still with OSB.
I treat WM like a friend and like anybody I wouldn't want to see a friend's business fail.
As a collector I don't want to see OSB fail as I have money tied into the preorders (which if I lose so be it but I'd rather not and have the figures. Two in particular are for people very close to me) and I don't want to see other collectors lose out also.
If I come across as a zealot it's because there seem to be a group of people wanting to see them fail so we can start with the "I told you so's". Some awaiting the liquidation perhaps don't even have a horse in this particular race. That makes me sad and want to support OSB even more.
I have a hundred quid or so tied up in preorders because I knew the score. Why pay full for an item that isn't even in stock yet? I settle with OSB when I know for sure they have the item.
That said, I'm sympathetic to those with a great amount invested in them and as I've clearly shown here, I've always hoped that customers either get their figures or their refunds.
Until lately, I feel I've been right in my support as people either got those figures or refunds but things have worsened I admit that. My feelings may change over time and as above, like everybody else I have no idea if Mazz is even there now. I've had no contact with Mazz ever and a recent email I sent through the site customer admin page bounced back so I don't know what is going on in that regard.
I've quickly spoken to WM recently and know his condition has worsened which is not good for the family or the business.
We can go on about this for pages and pages. People might see me as a zealot but I'm just a mate. I trust them and losing £100 isn't enough to damage that trust if things do go pear shaped. When I said above about losing a friend, it's not about WM facing death...I just wouldn't turn on a mate and tear down his business publicly for £100. Others are not friends and have much more invested so if they are upset or spitting fire then that is fair play but until we get evidence of MB2 then I personally don't think it is entirely fair for these comparisons to be made.
I'm in a trade where a word with a supplier about a business struggling is enough to start a chain which will result in that business closing! I worry that talks of trading standards, imminent closure and scamming will just fasttrack us all losing out.
For all of the reasons above, I hope they get it sorted, I really do.