Which HD format do you think will win the Format War?

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Dr.Mirakle32

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I am building a home theater with a good DLP Projector, and I want to get either a Blu Ray player or an HD DVD player to go along with it. From my research, Blu Ray beats HD DVD on almost every technical level, and many people in the electronics business have told me it will win the format war in the long run. Yet, as of now, HD DVD seems to have a wider selection of titles on the market, and seems to be selling better.

Which format do you think will win the war and why?
 
From what I've heard Blu-Ray. Most major companies now put out movies in Blu-Ray, some in both. I believe Universal is the only one to be going the HD-DVD route. The reason HD-DVD seams to be winnig now is the lower price point players. The HD-DVD tecnology is closer to the regular DVD tec. Blu-Ray tec is much more costly but holds more info and I believe will win out in the end.
 
I think Hd-DVD will win. Sony has already lost these types of wars in the past and I hope they lose this time too. You don't even need the storage space provided by blu-ray and that I believe is the only real difference between the two. Both formats look exactly the same to the eye.

I think people will favor the cheaper alternative. The only affordable way to own a blu-ray player is to buy a PS3... which I really don't think is that great of an option considering all the games stink right now and the player will become antiquated soon enough.

Go with Hd and you'll thank me later. :D
 
Format wars are decided by the consumer, not by the people in the electronics business. Those same kind of people preferred Beta to VHS because it was a technically superior format. But the public didn't get behind it and it lost.

HD DVD is outselling Blu-ray by a wide margin. It is less expensive--both the players and the movies themselves. Aside from the smaller storage capacity with HD DVD, there is little difference between the two--except that when titles are released on both HD DVD and Blu-ray, Blu-ray gets regular Dolby Digital and HD DVD gets Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby True HD and the In-Movie Experience video commentary. So if you want more interactive features and superior sound, and if you want to save money, you will buy the HD DVD. That's a no-brainer.

(As for the storage capacity--studios could technically put entire seasons of TV shows on very few discs but they don't take advantage of the full storage capacity of current DVDs. That won't change. Just because studios have the ability to put the entire Star Wars saga on one disc doesn't mean that they won't want to sell you six anyway. We have been programmed to believe that a two disc set with the movie on disc one and the bonus features on disc two is more for your money than one disc. Even if all of the M:I:III content would fit on one Blu-ray disc, customers see a two disc set and think they are getting more for your money. That's the way we and the studios are. Even if it were possible, they couldn't sell a season of a show on one disc for $75. Nobody would buy it. Put the same content in a four or six disc set and people will think it's a deal. That mentality and sales approach won't be changing with the next gen formats.)

I should say that I have both formats, and I enjoy both formats. I just prefer HD DVD.

Now, I also believe that there will be no "winner" to the format war. Both sides have some advantages and have established a presence in the market (although HD DVD has the lead in sales), and in order for there to be a winner as in the VHS vs. Beta war, the public would have to completely get behind one or the other. That will not happen. People are going to wait until one wins, and they will be waiting forever. Both can (and I believe will) remain on the market as niche items. We will have to buy red boxes for some movie studios and the blue for others, much like we do our video game shopping. We accept that we can't play Halo on our Playstations, and we will have to accept that we can't watch King Kong or Serenity on our Blu-ray players. I think that a dual format player will come out along with a game console that will play Halo, Final Fantasy, and Zelda all in one.

But as for one of the formats winning the war and controlling the HD market, I don't see it happening. Blu-ray has wider studio support, but studio support didn't save the UMD or D-Theater HD VHS. It also has higher costs and that will mean a much tougher battle to gain consumer acceptance. If we can get a reliable HD player on the market for $200, the format to do so will have a shot at widespread acceptance. I don't see Blu-ray breaking that price barrier any time soon, but I think that HD DVD has a chance.

If you are worried about backing the losing format, then just sit it out and wait. Neither will win the war and you will just end up downloading your HD content anyway in the near future. If you want to enjoy HD movies today, you can. Get a 360 with the HD drive and a PS3. The cost of both is about what you would pay for a stand alone Blu-ray player, and if either format dies you will still have a good game console. (Although the 360 upconverts your existing DVD library to HD compatible levels and the PS3 does not. So if it's backwards compatability you want, go for the 360.)
 
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Hey, by the way, the HD-DVD addon drive for the Xbox 360 can work on your computer with the USB cable with the proper drivers and DVD playing software, so that's like $200 for an HD-DVD player there.


Anyways, I would say HD-DVD will win. It's more advantageous to me, it's got better titles right now than Blu-Ray (although it's really sad that POTC will be Blu-Ray only) and it costs less. It's also got the combo DVD option that have the regular DVD version on the other side, so if you don't want to give up regular DVD's then you might be able to buy just the HD-DVD version and have both versions. (although I think it does cost a few dollars more). Also, it's cheaper to make HD-DVD's. Currently there is an HD-DVD drive being worked on for the PC that can do everything, burn CD's DVD's, HD-DVD's and play them all, and while there aren't any HD-DVD drives out yet, it's a really good selling point. The Blu-Ray DVD burners cost like $1,000 and can only burn Blu-Ray discs and nothing else (or even play them I believe), and they're pretty much useless.
 
i think some of the top end HP computers/laptops have HD DVD drives in them. i think HD DVD will win by a small margin. it seems like its the way to go. its cheaper, cheaper, and has more movies right now. the only thing Blu Ray has going for it right now is the release of the PS3--only because it flooded 500,000 blu ray players into homes on its release day. other than that both players look the same on the same HDTVs.
 
Fubeca said:
Blu-Ray!!! It better win it is the better format, but then again VHS beat Beta!

You should a poll to this one..

That IS a great idea! Though this might sound dumb of me, I've never started a poll before, so how would I do that?
 
I've been talking with an someone who does DVD authoring (turning a master tape into something playable on a DVD player) and Sony is being so protectioninst with the Blu-ray technology that it's cost prohibitive for all but the major studios. This person's company is starting to experiment with HD authoring, but Blu-ray is out of the question.

Personally I'd like to see Blu-ray win as it's a greater advancement of the technology, but it seems that the cheaper version will win out again, and that's HD.
 
the only thing that Blu Ray impresses me with is the way its burned it is impossible to ruin the disc from scratching it. This guy that works at EB said he took his free copy of Talladega Nights and laid it on his cement driveway and did a Karate Kid "wax on, wax off" test to it. He told me the movie fired up just like new when he put it in his PS3. Also, i heard the rumor of a blu ray disc that would be capable of 100+ gigs of space.. thats really cool. but that doesnt affect anything to do with movie watching experience which is what i think people are confusing this war with. everyone thinks bigger is better, but when the HD DVD looks just as good as a blu ray, but costs less i think it will pull away with the overall victory. however, potenetial for blu ray as a massive storage media is where Sony needs to start their advertising campaign. seriously, how much would it rock to be able to back up your ENTIRE hard drive on a couple discs??
 
As others have said, I don't think there will be a clear winner. I believe HD-DVD will end up being the more popular format due to the costs. I do have both myself, and as others have said, for a viewing experience, there is no difference.

I think Blu-ray will always be around due to Sony including it in the PS3 and the potential as archival medium for PCs - although is very cost prohibitive for that at the moment mainly due to media ($750 for drive which burns BD,DVD,CD, and the media is about $1 per gb - $25 BD-RE (rewriteable) 25 gb disc, $48 BD-R (write once) 50 gb disc). Though over time that price will come down.

Right now if I have a choice on which format to buy a movie in, I will pick it up in HD format because it will most likely be cheaper. I am sure most other consumers whom have a choice will do the same.
 
There's also some technology being worked on where a disc can have multiple layers that can be read by different wavelengths of light, which then allows it to have like 1TB (1,000GB) of space. Imagine that.
 
DVD, duh! It already has! No regular joe is gonna dish out MORE money for something that's only a little better.

YES I've seen the difference, it is better, but not much. VHS to DVD was huge, HUGE leaps in sound and picture.

DVD to Blue Ray or HD, only slightly better. DVD's are still new, and think about the market. Sure super dorks like us (myself included) will rush out for this stuff, but regular Joe aint. He/she spent enough money re-buying their fav. movies and concerts, and for the kind of money it takes to do that again only for slightly better is not oing to happen.

I just think HD and Blue Ray will remain in the background for a while, and DVD will have it's way with the market.

They tried this with HD Audio, not many people cared. I worked a record store, our DVD audio and HD audio did terribly and when I left they stopped getting it. We also sold DVD's and Blue Rays and HD DVD's, guess what barely sold. The HD stuff.

Plus, if you're on this forum and think you're average Joe, think again. We spend our money on toys and HD crap. Average Joe doesn't. If he did, these limited toys would sell out a hell of a lot faster.
 
I also own both.

I personally think HD DVD still gives a better picture but in the end I do not really care who wins. The more HD content, the better.

There is a HUGE difference between DVD and HD DVD/BD when viewed on HD displays....especially with FP and screens over 100"!!!
 
I don't care and I'll start buying them when it's settled.

Of course these will look better on HD Displays Gruson and especially ones over 100 but most of the world can't afford that.
 
Gruson said:
I also own both.

I personally think HD DVD still gives a better picture but in the end I do not really care who wins. The more HD content, the better.

There is a HUGE difference between DVD and HD DVD/BD when viewed on HD displays....especially with FP and screens over 100"!!!

My uncle owns a FP and a 100" screen, and with an upconverter, standard DVDs look incredible! He also had a sattelite hook up, where the HD channels looked as sharp, or maybe slightly better than the SD DVDs, and the standard channels looked like crap.

If a standard DVD can look that good on a 100" screen when converted to 1080i, how drastic is the difference between that and a HD format disc?

Because from the varrying answers I'm getting, I'm thinking it will be best to stick with a new, good quality DVD player with an up-converter, until a champion is crowned in the next-gen market.
 
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