Why no Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance toys???

[Darkseed]

It actually was lol and it lasted longer than the action scenes in the movie!

and better too!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Okay, this is driving me nuts. The first movie comes out and a ton of toys/statues, and just about anything under the sun having to do with Ghost Rider comes out. Now a decent Ghost Rider movie comes out and nothing! Ugh, this is really pissing me off! I understand that the last movie kinda sucked and didn't do too well, but the toys sold out everywhere. There isn't even any books at all! This sucks because this rendition of GR is awesome. His bike looks good as well.
Does anybody know if there will be anything coming out?

In regards to the actual topic...

The reason is likely the films lack of advertising prior to release and the fact that the Avengers is coming, lots of companies are forgetting other Marvel properties to focus on the hugely hyped Avengers.

Look at Lego, they've got the license for Marvel and 5/6 sets are Avengers

 

[IXI Nick IXI]

Yeah, and at least it made sense. I knew exactly what was going on and why...unlike how the this movie played out

 

[mikericm]

free was too much for me...at least I got some M&Ms

NICE! I went with Crunch bars!

 

[thundergod]

Mmm, doesn't seem to be going down too well does it ? I'll remain quietely optomistic until I see the film ( Harry Knowles has been quite positive ), but I must admit early signs were NOT good . I read an interview with the Director(s) where they were very critical of the previous film ( no masterpiece , I know , but I found it pretty entertaining ) and in particular the design choices of said movie . They criticised the "look" of the Rider and his bike , such things as the studs on his jacket and the fact that the bike was very "stylised" . To me , this indicated that they didn't "get" the Ghost Rider at all . The fact is , the comics were always 2nd league and the writers never could come up with a solid "mythology" for the character and the only real thing it had going for it was it's visual appeal . This isn't an attempt to put down the character as I think it's a great design and the fact that the first film re-created this image was enough to entertain me . ( And please , don't all the fan-boy comic guys come out of the woodwork to contradict me , I've read Ghost Rider comics since the early 70's and they've NEVER come up with decent stories to put the character in) . His creation was purely an attempt by Marvel to exploit the craze for horror , as well as the medias obsession with motorcycle gangs and stunt riders ! Again , this is not criticism , this was the era that I discovered Marvel and some great material came from this "exploitative period " . It seems to me that it's just another example of producers taking material they have absolutely no feel for , cutting away the very qualities that make the scenario/characters work and then re-working it to fit their own "vision " . But then again , I may like it !

 

[IXI Nick IXI]

Agreed! The look of GR is one of the most important parts of the character/stories...He's almost always had basically the same look with the studs/spikes and always had a very stylized bike whether its the chopper or the one from the comics with the big skull looking thing on the front...

The look of everything GR in this film is burnt...nothing more

 

[Unclechopchop]

Agreed! The look of GR is one of the most important parts of the character/stories...He's almost always had basically the same look with the studs/spikes and always had a very stylized bike whether its the chopper or the one from the comics with the big skull looking thing on the front...

The look of everything GR in this film is burnt...nothing more

So what if they went for a different look. Every sequel does it, and I think they went at it in a very creative way. Why shouldn't GR be all burnt? Why can't he strike a different bike? If you saw the movie you would see that Blaze is kinda on the run. His bike looks like a fixer-upper.
So the question is, whether or not you LIKE or HATE the movie, why aren't there any toys? They make plenty of toys for bad movies. The Last Airbender anybody? The last pirates movie? And you guys want to ride this flick? C'mon.

 

[mikericm]

So what if they went for a different look. Every sequel does it, and I think they went at it in a very creative way. Why shouldn't GR be all burnt? Why can't he strike a different bike? If you saw the movie you would see that Blaze is kinda on the run. His bike looks like a fixer-upper.
So the question is, whether or not you LIKE or HATE the movie, why aren't there any toys? They make plenty of toys for bad movies. The Last Airbender anybody? The last pirates movie? And you guys want to ride this flick? C'mon.

Did you like the movie?

As far as them making toys, no one knows. Clearly, Marvel doesn't think as much of GR as they do Avengers, IM, Cap and Spiderman. There was very little promotion done. And there are no toys at all. But have hope if you really want HT to make a 1/6 GR from this sequel. The first movie was out in 2007. The GR HT was realeased 3 years later in 2010.

 

[Unclechopchop]

Did you like the movie?

As far as them making toys, no one knows. Clearly, Marvel doesn't think as much of GR as they do Avengers, IM, Cap and Spiderman. There was very little promotion done. And there are no toys at all. But have hope if you really want HT to make a 1/6 GR from this sequel. The first movie was out in 2007. The GR HT was realeased 3 years later in 2010.

To answer the question, yeah, I kinda did. I thought t was way better than the first. I personally like movies to have some grit, and they gave GR some. Sure it could have been better here and better there, but c'mon people. It was better than some of the comic movies that have come out. I personally liked it waaaay better than Thor. But. Then again, I am partial to GR, and just wanted him to throw down. They could have done more action in this movie, but with what they did, it was pretty cool. Seriously if anybody that saw the movie tells you that they didn't get super juiced when GR was mobbing his bike in the ending scene, they are lying!
So yeah, maybe Hot Toys will finally do one, but to tell you the truth, I'm kinda sick of them charging so much and then using cheap materials that break down after time. Plus, to be honest, their GR sculpt highly insulted me. I thought the 12 inch figure Hasbro release was far superior, minus the whole clothing thing. And it cost just a fraction of the price! It's still one of my favorite figures. He was cheap, and just looked cool.
It just makes me sad that they passed on such a cool design (obviously my opinion with a chosen few)

 

[mikericm]

To answer the question, yeah, I kinda did. I thought t was way better than the first. I personally like movies to have some grit, and they gave GR some. Sure it could have been better here and better there, but c'mon people. It was better than some of the comic movies that have come out. I personally liked it waaaay better than Thor. But. Then again, I am partial to GR, and just wanted him to throw down. They could have done more action in this movie, but with what they did, it was pretty cool. Seriously if anybody that saw the movie tells you that they didn't get super juiced when GR was mobbing his bike in the ending scene, they are lying!
So yeah, maybe Hot Toys will finally do one, but to tell you the truth, I'm kinda sick of them charging so much and then using cheap materials that break down after time. Plus, to be honest, their GR sculpt highly insulted me. I thought the 12 inch figure Hasbro release was far superior, minus the whole clothing thing. And it cost just a fraction of the price! It's still one of my favorite figures. He was cheap, and just looked cool.
It just makes me sad that they passed on such a cool design (obviously my opinion with a chosen few)

This is not meant in a negative way, but I think the fact that you are partial to GR matters. You're partial to him and he isn't getting an ounce of love from Marvel, Hasbro, Hot Toys, Critics or us. You're pissed because so many other movie characters are being shown love. Sorry.

I love all Marvel. But I am partial to Spiderman and Iron Man. And in my opinion, I don't think this GR movie comes close to Thor. But thats my opinion.

 

[IXI Nick IXI]

This is not meant in a negative way, but I think the fact that you are partial to GR matters. You're partial to him and he isn't getting an ounce of love from Marvel, Hasbro, Hot Toys, Critics or us. You're pissed because so many other movie characters are being shown love. Sorry.

I love all Marvel. But I am partial to Spiderman and Iron Man. And in my opinion, I don't think this GR movie comes close to Thor. But thats my opinion.

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Comparing this movie to Thor is ridiculous. Thor was well done one every level.

Other than special effects, nothing was done well on this film. The casting was terrible. The writing was terrible. The action was short and already seen in the trailers. The story was rushed and forced.

Unless someone is biased, I dont see how they can see it any other way...

I love Ghost Rider but that doesnt mean this movie automatically gets higher scores than it deserves...

 

[Unclechopchop]

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Comparing this movie to Thor is ridiculous. Thor was well done one every level.

Other than special effects, nothing was done well on this film. The casting was terrible. The writing was terrible. The action was short and already seen in the trailers. The story was rushed and forced.

Unless someone is biased, I dont see how they can see it any other way...

I love Ghost Rider but that doesnt mean this movie automatically gets higher scores than it deserves...

I no longer care what people think. If The Last Airbender, Astro Boy, Pirates of the Caribbean, can have their own toys, then why can't this movie? It's absolutely driving me nuts! I guess I'll have to see what Hot Toys will do, but then again, what happened to their Metal Gear, and Captain Harlock figures? UGH, this sucks.
Also....DON'T LIE! If they did release some figures I would bet anything YOU would get some.

 

[CelticPredator]

Why won't this movie get any toys?

A: Because this movie does not appeal to children.

B: Hot Toys is more selective now. They can't make products of things that MIGHT work. It has to already WORK.


Green Lantern sucked, and did terribly. I highly doubt we'll ever see that figure.

Watchmen never sold, so we'll never seen Rorschach.


Why do you think the X-Men First Class announcement came after the movie premiered? It did well. There was a demand for it.

This movie was trashed by almost everyone. It didn't even make number 1 this week. It got beat out by a 2 week old movie.

So no. This movie won't get any kind of collectibles. There's little market for it as the movie was a failure. Regardless of your opinion.

 

[Monger]

Thor was well done on all levels if there are no levels to be well done at. Bad writing, cookie cutter characters and plot, awful character development, very standard action scenes, stale humor. Thor had it all and not in a good way. When Thor gets so much praise I honestly can never stop being shocked. It's like people forget these are forgettable summer action films with big budgets and are suddenly considering them to be award winning well done adaptations. The Avengers itself is probably also going to be similar. College humor mixed in with big budget nonsensical action sequences to form an overall forgettable installment in a line of Marvel films that no one will pay any attention to ten years from now.

I've yet to see the new Ghost Rider and it sounds like that's a good thing. It's a shame too since I like Cage and I simply expected this movie to be at least fairly better than the first one, but the reception makes it sound like it is an absolute abomination much worse than the previous.

 

[kajobaldisimo]

Thor was well done on all levels if there are no levels to be well done at. Bad writing, cookie cutter characters and plot, awful character development, very standard action scenes, stale humor. Thor had it all and not in a good way. When Thor gets so much praise I honestly can never stop being shocked. It's like people forget these are forgettable summer action films with big budgets and are suddenly considering them to be award winning well done adaptations. The Avengers itself is probably also going to be similar. College humor mixed in with big budget nonsensical action sequences to form an overall forgettable installment in a line of Marvel films that no one will pay any attention to ten years from now.

your opinion is noted but i disagree completely.

i may have to get the movie 1 GR after all.

 

[Unclechopchop]

Thor was well done on all levels if there are no levels to be well done at. Bad writing, cookie cutter characters and plot, awful character development, very standard action scenes, stale humor. Thor had it all and not in a good way. When Thor gets so much praise I honestly can never stop being shocked. It's like people forget these are forgettable summer action films with big budgets and are suddenly considering them to be award winning well done adaptations. The Avengers itself is probably also going to be similar. College humor mixed in with big budget nonsensical action sequences to form an overall forgettable installment in a line of Marvel films that no one will pay any attention to ten years from now.

I've yet to see the new Ghost Rider and it sounds like that's a good thing. It's a shame too since I like Cage and I simply expected this movie to be at least fairly better than the first one, but the reception makes it sound like it is an absolute abomination much worse than the previous.

Check out GR and form YOUR OWN OPINION! That's what I did and it seems like its not allowed around here. You seem like a reasonable guy.
Oh, by the way, I completely agree with you on Thor.

 

[Unclechopchop]

Why won't this movie get any toys?

A: Because this movie does not appeal to children.

B: Hot Toys is more selective now. They can't make products of things that MIGHT work. It has to already WORK.


Green Lantern sucked, and did terribly. I highly doubt we'll ever see that figure.

Watchmen never sold, so we'll never seen Rorschach.


Why do you think the X-Men First Class announcement came after the movie premiered? It did well. There was a demand for it.

This movie was trashed by almost everyone. It didn't even make number 1 this week. It got beat out by a 2 week old movie.

So no. This movie won't get any kind of collectibles. There's little market for it as the movie was a failure. Regardless of your opinion.

Ghost Rider doesn't appeal to kids? Is that why when the first movie came out the line was filled with just about everything you could think of? Also, toys aren't really for the kids these days bro. I see more adults buying toys than soccer moms. Jeez, a kickasss character with a flaming skull and a motorcycle! Totally unapealing to a kid? I don't know what generation you grew up in, but I would imagine it was from an Amish descent.
Lame argument, although I tend to somewhat agree with the Hot Toys assumption. But don't lie, if they did do a GR, you would get it!
Oh, aren't you the one that liked Transformers 3?

 

[CollectorNC]

Good news for those that missed out on the original GR SSC's, I bet their prices are lowering on Ebay right now.

 

[DeltaForceChung]

HOT TOYS could produce a Jason Statham figure from CRANK & CRANK 2: HIGH VOLTAGE and those figures would sell better & more than the GHOST RIDER figure from the first piece of crap film & the sequel combined.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

^ the first one sold very well