X-Men: Days of Future Past
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Silrian
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Lol, sorry krec9 I only recently started to follow this thread so I missed the beast serum thing. It sucks though imo, changes like that are so annoying to me. Whatever, obviously Grammar-Beast is canon, and he couldn't change, so I hope it's a temporary thing and not a change in the new timeline.
Also, I really can't see how you can in any way put the words 'good job' and 'cyclops' in one sentence, when it regards this franchise. I'm sure an average soap actor does pretty well with 'what he's been given' because what he's been given is utter crap. But does that really say anything? Marsden sucked, that might not have been his fault, I assume that wasn't his fault, but he sucked nonetheless.
Ftr, I was talking about the Hobbit, you know that right? I adore the original LotR trilogy but Jackson is undoing every good thing he did with it with this new (*super mocking inflection*) "trilogy". Makes me sick. Freeman is god awful in that role. I will watch any iron man movie over these fat-suit debacles they call 'Hobbit movies'.
Also, I really can't see how you can in any way put the words 'good job' and 'cyclops' in one sentence, when it regards this franchise. I'm sure an average soap actor does pretty well with 'what he's been given' because what he's been given is utter crap. But does that really say anything? Marsden sucked, that might not have been his fault, I assume that wasn't his fault, but he sucked nonetheless.
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Ftr, I was talking about the Hobbit, you know that right? I adore the original LotR trilogy but Jackson is undoing every good thing he did with it with this new (*super mocking inflection*) "trilogy". Makes me sick. Freeman is god awful in that role. I will watch any iron man movie over these fat-suit debacles they call 'Hobbit movies'.
Silrian
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Also, considering I don't really care about Quicksilver as a character much, and considering here he's at least with his father, that last trailer opened the possibility that I might do a 180 when it concerns him.
I don't get who Metalbender shagged though? Who or where is Quicksilver's mother in this version?
I don't get who Metalbender shagged though?
Who or where is Quicksilver's mother in this version?
Silrian
Super Freak
Okay so, this visual is insanely awesome imo.
(I put it in spoiler tags for those who don't watch trailers.)
(I put it in spoiler tags for those who don't watch trailers.)
he was perfect for Cyclops but the character was terribly written.
Mad Old Lu
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I started reading the XMen at about that exact time, and while I mostly agree with you, I also think that Cyclops was stuffy and uptight. He certainly wasn't the badass that Wolverine is. He was Wolverine's counterbalance, like some people have said, succeeding by being "good" and playing by the rules so to speak.
So I think the first two movies got the character mostly right. What I will concede is that the movies simply did not give him the chance to shine and be the central hero we know he can be. I think it was more egregious in the second movie because he was put out of commission pretty quickly.
I think a lot here are forgetting that the first two movies were at the dawn of modern comic book movies, and were a revelation to some of us fans. We were fearing the absolute worst from the first one. But what we got was a movie that for the most part showed real respect for the characters. Yes there were changes, and some characters were switched around. But really, believe me, it could have been much worse, and everything we had seen before (except for Blade) suggested that it would have been terrible in that the characters would not resemble their comic counterparts at all, just in name only. You know what I was expecting? Something like X3, just a bunch of super powered people fighting each other that you knew nothing about or cared at all about.
I can understand everyone's frustration. X3 and Origins were terrible and they practically undid any ground the first two movies gained. I actually think it's tainting many people's opinion over the entire franchise and sadly judging the first two even more harshly than they deserve to be because of them.
The ideal thing would have been to use FC as a reboot and start from scratch with the original X Men. Obviously they didn't, but I think the franchise is not lost. X3 can be ignored because everything that happened in it can be, and was, undone. Magneto got his powers back, Charles's consciousness survived, Phoenix was just Phoenix and not Jean (if you follow the comics), and Cyclops "died" offscreen, which means he didn't die at all. They're kind of ignoring Origins since they re used Emma Frost. And I think the central core group of characters are strong and can at the very least give us one last great movie in DOFP.
Jus think. They could reboot the franchise and try to "re-invent" the characters like they're doing for Fantastic Four!
I knew which one you were talking about. I'm sure there are many that agree with you. I would a million times over disagree with you though as I'm sure many others would. So it is what it is.
yeah that is true. we are so used to comic book movies now that we forget when this came out it was very new. maybe we are just spoiled now?
I agree with the bulk of your post, Lu. Funny that to me, this:
Is an excellent description of Man of Steel.
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Okay so, this visual is insanely awesome imo.
(I put it in spoiler tags for those who don't watch trailers.)
are the seats empty? it wold be pretty crazy if there were people in there
Silrian
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Yeah that would but I think they're empty, at a different shot earlier in the trailer you see him standing in the arena. If that scene is anything like the moment in FC where he moves the massive Disc, that's gonna be one epic scene.
Okay, just wanted to make sure.
Okay, just wanted to make sure.
Silrian
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@Biojex
It's empty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjtg7m1MMM at 1:40
Silrian
Super Freak
Also, Kinberg on the film's opening sequence:
https://collider.com/x-men-days-of-future-past-opening-scene-explained/#SmZoQLWl03CKfHlH.99
"Well, that opening scene is introducing, really, this sort of refugee group of mutants that Kitty’s the leader of in the future. And so, in the movie, it’s before we even meet our X-Men, it’s before we meet Patrick, Ian, Hugh, and Halle. We sort of cold open in many ways on Kitty, Warpath, Blink, Colossus, Sunspot, Bishop, and we sort of wanted to show what a pack of these refugees living day to day knowing the Sentinels are out there, what their life would be like, and what an attack would look like, and also setting up Kitty’s power, of being able to send consciousness back in time to warn people so that they can move away before the attack comes. That’s the sort of critical engine of the movie, her sending a consciousness back to 1973 to warn that something bad is gonna happen that they’ve got to stop from happening.”
https://collider.com/x-men-days-of-future-past-opening-scene-explained/#SmZoQLWl03CKfHlH.99
Mad Old Lu
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Funny that to me, this:
Is an excellent description of Man of Steel.
I felt the same way!
Silrian
Super Freak
Kinberg on Fox' expanded Marvel Universe:
https://collider.com/deadpool-movie-rating-fox-marvel-movies/
He's heavily implying that Fox will venture into tie-in TV shows like Marvel.
https://collider.com/deadpool-movie-rating-fox-marvel-movies/
He's heavily implying that Fox will venture into tie-in TV shows like Marvel.
always odd to me a few yrs back sony lost the spiderman tv rights to disney never understood why they didnt do nothing with it.
FOX needs to reboot everything before they try that
GasparZizou
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Yes, please, reboot the whole thing.
Silrian
Super Freak
Yeah it's kinda weird how you have a spider-man cartoon with phil coulson in it, yet in the films they can't meet, yet the films use the same Ultimate influence as the TV series does. It's like crazy.
As long as Jackman is playing Wolverine, we won't see a reboot. But they did announce 'the Death of Wolverine' comic books. I don't know, I'm in between you guys and Pturtle, I do want a reboot, but I think I will nevertheless enjoy what they might do. Dunno. DoFP is gonna make or break whatever engagement I have left with this franchise, that I know for sure.
As long as Jackman is playing Wolverine, we won't see a reboot. But they did announce 'the Death of Wolverine' comic books. I don't know, I'm in between you guys and Pturtle, I do want a reboot, but I think I will nevertheless enjoy what they might do. Dunno. DoFP is gonna make or break whatever engagement I have left with this franchise, that I know for sure.
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