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SurlyJ said:
Gotcha. That makes sense, particularly when AMC has not handled their toy licenses very well to date and has a lot of profit being left on the table, so customs can really eat into that.

Marvel is a different beast though. No idea how litigious they are by nature, but often the larger the company with the more widespread market dominance, the less they fuss about things like customs are small run third party sales. Of course the opposite can be true as well.
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Well XM does look to take the right precautions about the situation. Like you said Marvel is a bit different, and honestly with the way more people are interested in them opposed to SSC this will be an interesting thing to play out.

I think the only person to be pissed is SS because of the straying from their pieces.
 
Can we stop talking about this...makes me nervous. I love my Cap and have to get that Magneto
 
CallMeTheDoctor said:
I think the only person to be pissed is SS because of the straying from their pieces.
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This! :exactly: Marvel got their money in licensing fees. SSC is the company that's losing profits by XM Merch not being restricted to the 4 countries in XM's licensing agreement. Marvel may still act on this issue. However, it will be at the behest of SSC.

I honestly think nothing will come of this. Bowen has a similar restriction with his licensing agreement and Marvel. He is only allowed to sell his items in the US. That means no international customers can order directly from BD. However, that doesn't stop international collectors from buying BD merch through online retailers and shops. Hell, SSC sells BD merch themselves to international customers. This stuff has been going on for a long time with many companies. So long as the merch being sold is licensed, everything else seems moot.
 
On another note maybe XM can make a Sam Wilson Cap head since it seems he is about to take over.

https://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/7/7/22814/exclusive_an_all-new_captain_america_debuts_this_fall

Why would Falcon give up who he is, a great character imho mind you, to "honor" Cap? This whole type of storyline from Superman and Batman in the nineties and more recently, to Spiderman and now Cap for the second time is really played out. New material please. This latest Cap run by Remender has been abysmal. Sorry for my rant. Now back to the XM SSC wars.
 
So, it seems as long as there is a middle man between XM and the US based stores (secret compass etc) that is located in one of XM's licensing zones, there won't be any problem?
 
nemenforcer said:
Can we stop talking about this...makes me nervous. I love my Cap and have to get that Magneto
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You have absolutely nothing to be worried about. As long as someone is not selling unlicensed product, there is no problem. Americans are not prohibited to buy products from resellers overseas. Unless there is an embargo during times of war or something drastic to that effect.....any individual has a right to buy products from outside the US territory. There is no law in most countries that prevents their citizens from buying US products if they can't get it directly from the manufacturer.

Bottom line....as long as XM is staying within the contract guidelines...they are fine. Like I said before on SF and I'll say it here....this forum is not the end all be all of information for collectibles. Tons of other places and ways of acquiring info outside of SF and SSF.
 
loricstone said:
You have absolutely nothing to be worried about. As long as someone is not selling unlicensed product, there is no problem. Americans are not prohibited to buy products from resellers overseas. Unless there is an embargo during times of war or something drastic to that effect.....any individual has a right to buy products from outside the US territory. There is no law in most countries that prevents their citizens from buying US products if they can't get it directly from the manufacturer.

Bottom line....as long as XM is staying within the contract guidelines...they are fine. Like I said before on SF and I'll say it here....this forum is not the end all be all of information for collectibles. Tons of other places and ways of acquiring info outside of SF and SSF.
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Thanks Loric, there is nothing better to apply some common sense to this thread.
 
filip629 said:
This! :exactly: Marvel got their money in licensing fees. SSC is the company that's losing profits by XM Merch not being restricted to the 4 countries in XM's licensing agreement. Marvel may still act on this issue. However, it will be at the behest of SSC.

I honestly think nothing will come of this. Bowen has a similar restriction with his licensing agreement and Marvel. He is only allowed to sell his items in the US. That means no international customers can order directly from BD. However, that doesn't stop international collectors from buying BD merch through online retailers and shops. Hell, SSC sells BD merch themselves to international customers. This stuff has been going on for a long time with many companies. So long as the merch being sold is licensed, everything else seems moot.
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Wow never even thought about Bowen products being sold through SSC internationally. Solid point dude. I'm flabbergasted that this wasn't even a thought. Great post buddy

loricstone said:
You have absolutely nothing to be worried about. As long as someone is not selling unlicensed product, there is no problem. Americans are not prohibited to buy products from resellers overseas. Unless there is an embargo during times of war or something drastic to that effect.....any individual has a right to buy products from outside the US territory. There is no law in most countries that prevents their citizens from buying US products if they can't get it directly from the manufacturer.

Bottom line....as long as XM is staying within the contract guidelines...they are fine. Like I said before on SF and I'll say it here....this forum is not the end all be all of information for collectibles. Tons of other places and ways of acquiring info outside of SF and SSF.
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Good info and thanks for sharing Loric
 
ink said:
that was a limited partnership between everybody..it didn't really work
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Ink SSC still has Bowen merchandise available on their site right now. Right up to the last phase that was released. Limited partnership? You can find almost anything Bowen has ever produced in the archives section... I wouldn't consider that limited dude
 
I don't think Marvel is going to care unless SS makes an issue of it... After all Marvel is still getting paid weather the statue is sold in one of those four countries or if a middle man re-sells it here in the US.

Anyways nothing can happen to those of us who bought the statue, worst case is a lawyer writes a C&D order to the shops selling them here in the US... but I seriously doubt that will even happen...

If I was to go over to Singapore and buy say 20 XM statues and then bring them back to the US with me, how can Marvel even stop me from re-selling the items?

People have been selling Grey market vehicles all the time here in the US....
 
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Okay, this may sound a bit weird, BUT ink you keep referring to the fact that XM statues shouldn't be sold "here", but even though the Freaks board is based out of the U.S.A. there are many members like myself who are international. We come from across the globe. So isn't "here" a very relative term; in the end the mere discussion about the products isn't a problem is it?? We are discussing a licensed Marvel property. Sure it may not be licensed in the country where the Freaks servers physically are, but the community stretches well beyond those boarders. That is my impression at least.
 
Collectors will go for items they like. In this case a licensed Marvel but for Asia region. Somehow some way collectors will find a way to get their hands on them. Even LCS at USA might even want to get their hands on them, if they know they can sell at good profit. No harm done. People in Asia have been buying many many SS statues for a long time. Now XM is around, everyone can have more options. It's a win win :)
 

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