XM Studios Magneto

[Custo]

I know this is a pretty awesome statue but it still doesn't make much sense, Capt. took awhile to sell out, Hulk and all the other status are still not sold out yet... makes me wonder if you had a lot of people buying multiples to flip them on Ebay...

Or a lot of people have been waiting for a 1/4 statue of Magneto. High demand = sellout

 

[divo]

I somehow do not think this is the right course of action...

Let SSC see there is a demand for other people's product and potentially that they are losing sales because of this naturally. In theory that means SSC will try to figure out why this is and it will create competition between the two. Telling someone DO THIS never works. Aside from that you want to let SSC express their own creativity you never know what they may come up with. They still create some fantastic pieces IMO.

Look, I'm not suggesting we tell SS what to do (subject/creative wise), but I am saying we can voice our desires on the level of quality of the sculpts we expect. Why should we wait around & hope SS comes around, eventually? I've been collecting SS for many years now, & have waited for this level of quality sculpting for years, & am a little pissed that it had to come from a small start-up company half way around the world & not Sideshow. Of late, I can't remember so many fans being as excited for a product, & selling in mere hours/minutes as this Magneto has. And this is not a fluke, as Wolverine, Thanos, Phoenix, & others will follow. Why? Because the sculpting is ****ing fantastic, plain & simple, regardless of the $1000.00 price tag. Go figure.

Sideshow without a doubt has the skill & means to raise the bar to way higher levels, god willing, to even exceed XM's, but they do so every so often. Just look at their Court of the Dead line. That's the type of work we should be getting for the Marvel line.

XM relishes fan input in creating their statues, & man look at the results!!! I know SS won't/can't do the same, but they can do a hell of a lot better.

 

[Jericho]

This thing's my freaking white whale. Had it in my cart twice at BBTS and failed. Then almost had one at a Malaysian store and that fell though.

 

[Empir3]

Look, I'm not suggesting we tell SS what to do (subject/creative wise), but I am saying we can voice our desires on the level of quality of the sculpts we expect. Why should we wait around & hope SS comes around, eventually? I've been collecting SS for many years now, & have waited for this level of quality sculpting for years, & am a little pissed that it had to come from a small start-up company half way around the world & not Sideshow. Of late, I can't remember so many fans being as excited for a product, & selling in mere hours/minutes as this Magneto has. And this is not a fluke, as Wolverine, Thanos, Phoenix, & others will follow. Why? Because the sculpting is ****ing fantastic, plain & simple, regardless of the $1000.00 price tag. Go figure.

Sideshow without a doubt has the skill & means to raise the bar to way higher levels, god willing, to even exceed XM's, but they do so every so often. Just look at their Court of the Dead line. That's the type of work we should be getting for the Marvel line.

XM relishes fan input in creating their statues, & man look at the results!!! I know SS won't/can't do the same, but they can do a hell of a lot better.

So if you do not like what SS is doing and prefer XM purchase XM. That is the beauty of having multiple companies. When SSC loses sales something will change, competition breeds ingenuity. Why be mad that SS didn't make this piece? It is available from another company its not like it does not exist.

Also I believe the process in which both of these companies work is completely different. XM does digital sculpts while SSC does all physical if I am not mistaken.

 

[divo]

So if you do not like what SS is doing and prefer XM purchase XM. That is the beauty of having multiple companies. When SSC loses sales something will change, competition breeds ingenuity. Why be mad that SS didn't make this piece? It is available from another company its not like it does not exist.

Also I believe the process in which both of these companies work is completely different. XM does digital sculpts while SSC does all physical if I am not mistaken.

I tried to purchase Magneto, but like many, failed. And no, I'm not mad because Sideshow did not make THIS piece, only that they have not produced this level of sculpt on a consistent basis, if ever, after 20 yrs in the game. When they could, & should have, years ago. And yes, Sideshow uses both digital & traditional sculpting techniques for their products.

 

[Jericho]

SpecFiction posted this over on Statueforum: "Hi Everyone! Honestly this sell out still has me scratching my head. Last week I was waiting for an official solicitation from XM and today I see a post from XM saying it's sold out. Luckily my XM hook up was cool enough to get me a few. I'm figuring out the most fair way to offer these to you guys. Will keep you posted."

 

[loricstone]

So if you do not like what SS is doing and prefer XM purchase XM. That is the beauty of having multiple companies. When SSC loses sales something will change, competition breeds ingenuity. Why be mad that SS didn't make this piece? It is available from another company its not like it does not exist.

Also I believe the process in which both of these companies work is completely different. XM does digital sculpts while SSC does all physical if I am not mistaken.

Firstly lets get the XM does digital sculpts while SSC does all physical crap taken care of.

XM does do digital sculpts, but it is not solely what they do. The Thor statue being worked on? Yeah...that's a physical sculpt from the great Tony Cipriano himself.....all hand cast. Secondly, SSC does not do just all physical sculpting. They do a mixture of both. They do lean more towards the hand sculpting stuff, but also dabble in the digital realm from time to time depending on each individual statue. I believe it was David Igo who works for SS that said that on SF iirc.

Now that that myth is out of the way, lets deal with the real meat of your statement..."Why be mad that SS didn't make this piece? It is available from another company its not like it does not exist."

People are disgruntled with the fact tons of fans have been asking for a Magneto from SS in PF format for years (5+ years or more). SS does not listen. They instead would like to do 600 Wolverines, 50000 Iron Man and 100000000 Hulks instead of tackling Magneto...a highly sought after character in 1/4 scale. Sure there are other renditions of Magneto in various scales from various companies, or as unlicensed custom statues, but the vast majority of collectors know SS and have made it their go to company for all Marvel 1/4 statues.

The bottom line is, if anyone can't see the decrease in Marvel care and excellence with their products in the past few years, then they are either fooling themselves, or just can't appreciate work from other companies...and that is just blind love for a company that has sucked the life out of the industry to some degree.

There are other factors why people are upset with SS, but I think this covers most of it. Worst of all, their Quality Control is abhorrent at times, great at others. How can a statue like Deadpool be practically flawless from the factories, but a statue like Apocalypse have tons of issues? If you can answer that question....you will have just figured out the million dollar answer.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

A thought. Since so many collectors are going crazy for XM STUDIOS products (& rightfully so), why don't we as a group send SS some detailed pics of XM products, sign a petition, & kindly demand/request/suggest/beg that this is the quality of sculpt we expect from SS going forward? I'm sure SS art direction would be blown away impressed with the quality & creativity of XM products, & SS's many talented sculptors would be thrilled to rise to the challenge.

I know it's a long shot, but one I think we should seriously consider. Remember, collectors did manage to kill the 1/5 scale line in favor of !/4 scale, purely on the resolve of fans. Just wish SS would do more 100% sculpted PF's, cause the fantastic potential results speak for themselves. If we did succeed, no more mad scrambles & still miss out(!), product/shipping would be way cheaper, SS would surely produce plenty of product for all, & we would all feel relief knowing that we helped guide our beloved SS back on the path of greatness. Now to figure out how to fix their bloody QC issues.

Look, I'm not suggesting we tell SS what to do (subject/creative wise), but I am saying we can voice our desires on the level of quality of the sculpts we expect. Why should we wait around & hope SS comes around, eventually? I've been collecting SS for many years now, & have waited for this level of quality sculpting for years, & am a little pissed that it had to come from a small start-up company half way around the world & not Sideshow. Of late, I can't remember so many fans being as excited for a product, & selling in mere hours/minutes as this Magneto has. And this is not a fluke, as Wolverine, Thanos, Phoenix, & others will follow. Why? Because the sculpting is ****ing fantastic, plain & simple, regardless of the $1000.00 price tag. Go figure. Sideshow without a doubt has the skill & means to raise the bar to way higher levels, god willing, to even exceed XM's, but they do so every so often. Just look at their Court of the Dead line. That's the type of work we should be getting for the Marvel line.

XM relishes fan input in creating their statues, & man look at the results!!! I know SS won't/can't do the same, but they can do a hell of a lot better.

So if you do not like what SS is doing and prefer XM purchase XM. That is the beauty of having multiple companies. When SSC loses sales something will change, competition breeds ingenuity. Why be mad that SS didn't make this piece? It is available from another company its not like it does not exist. Also I believe the process in which both of these companies work is completely different. XM does digital sculpts while SSC does all physical if I am not mistaken.

I somehow do not think this is the right course of action...Let SSC see there is a demand for other people's product and potentially that they are losing sales because of this naturally. In theory that means SSC will try to figure out why this is and it will create competition between the two. Telling someone DO THIS never works. Aside from that you want to let SSC express their own creativity you never know what they may come up with. They still create some fantastic pieces IMO.

I think Empire is right. Competitor's will take notice that collector's are willing to lay down more money to import XM's fully sculpted jaw dropping, 1/4 scale statues that are nearly identical to the prototypes, that boast amazing paint apps and terrific qc. If you want to send any company a message, stop ordering their products. Money talks, everything else gets swept under the rug and/or ignored when you're an industry giant.

Collector's have been voicing their frustrations/displeasure with companies here for a long time (lord knows I have ), yet nothing seems to be improving. I think part of the problem is that there exists a large contingent that is content with paying escalating retail costs for the current quality they are receiving and will stop at nothing to defend it. Those of us who speak up typically get lambasted, labelled as 'haters' , and are abruptly told, "Don't like it! Don't buy it!", regardless if we have spent $10,000 or more on that company's products throughout our lifetime. And that always devolves into petty arguments and achieves nothing.

Great post loric btw.

 

[loricstone]

Yep the people who missed out on this will have to "settle" for Sideshow. The kings of the statue industry. Everybody is looking for the next Michael Jordan. If SS put as much effort into a mags as they do their COTD line it would spectacular at half the cost. They have spread themselves a bit thin lately, but I would put their gladiator hulk up against any statue (including mags).

I sure as hell wouldn't. In fact, I think the SS Hulk PF (Red, Green and Gray) done by Pablo V is a much better statue than GH. Its the subject matter to me. I don't care for Hulk with a sword and shield even though it looks great! Skaar PF blows that GH out of the water. GH isn't even in the same league as Magneto...not in AD (for damn sure), QC (for damn sure) and paints (for damn sure). Not to belittle the GH Hulk...it is still a great statue....much better than Apocalypse I can tell you that. Of course this is my opinion and you have yours so I respect that.

 

[averone]

I got mine, yea Im hooked on the XM sculpts
I always loved any sculpt sitting down and this on is another great one

 

[skillet]

In the end... $$$$$ will do the talking. Don't need to tell SSC. Don't need to tell XM. $$$$ tells them all they need to know. SSC can make a whole lot of money on the CotD because of no license fee. That is their business model. They make Hulk because people buy Hulks. Hulk sells. IM sells. T&A sells.

 

[Titanchuck]

.......but I would put their gladiator hulk up against any statue (including mags).

 

[Bmutha]

I sure as hell wouldn't. In fact, I think the SS Hulk PF (Red, Green and Gray) done by Pablo V is a much better statue than GH. Its the subject matter to me. I don't care for Hulk with a sword and shield even though it looks great! Skaar PF blows that GH out of the water. GH isn't even in the same league as Magneto...not in AD (for damn sure), QC (for damn sure) and paints (for damn sure). Not to belittle the GH Hulk...it is still a great statue....much better than Apocalypse I can tell you that. Of course this is my opinion and you have yours so I respect that.

I think I disagree with everything you say there except the art direction...GH has a pretty ordinary pose, I'll give you that. Do you have a GH in front of you to make those statements regarding the paint and QC? Mine looks pretty good

You admit that a big reason you don't like GH is because you're not a fan of the subject (i.e. I guess that means not a fan of the Planet Hulk storyline?)...you shouldn't let that get in the way of your judgement, and that pretty much has no influence on whether GH is an excellent statue. I'm one of the biggest Daredevil fans around, yet you don't see me making the claim that it's better than Magneto

 

[wolf-brother]

 

[wolf-brother]

This is all I have to say about this extraordinary Magneto statue.

Can't wait to have it displayed.

 

[newe82]

Haters gonna hate, gladiator hulk is awesome. Magneto is cool, but people are buying the hype big time. I am going to laugh if he arrives cross eyed like in pics.

 

[Titanchuck]

Haters gonna hate, gladiator hulk is awesome. Magneto is cool, but people are buying the hype big time. I am going to laugh if he arrives cross eyed like in pics.

Could have sworn you were busting your balls to get a mags this morning ..guess you didn't get one

 

[wolf-brother]

GH is awesome. Mags isn't hype, it's awesome too!

 

[a2themonster]

great great gif

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Haters gonna hate, gladiator hulk is awesome. Magneto is cool, but people are buying the hype big time. I am going to laugh if he arrives cross eyed like in pics.

Are you laughing at those who got cross eyed GH Hulk statues?

Could have sworn you were busting your balls to get a mags this morning ..guess you didn't get one