But with rolling eyes, you can make the tongue-out sculpt have cross-eyes... which is every "fan"-boys dream.
Those naughty boys on FB.
Those naughty boys on FB.
Jazzinc Dioramas 1/6 Ultimate Catwoman (Batman Returns, 1992)
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Chopper Face
Super Freak
What!? Outrageous! What year is this, 2022?
Eye rolling system is too much work, and sometimes the likeness will look off. I tried it once years ago. It takes away the true likeness because the eyeballs are too smooth. Hard to explain. I would go off to the deep end if I try to explain it further.
I think the best way to do this is painted eyes, one head sculpt with swap-able mouth plates on it.
I think the best way to do this is painted eyes, one head sculpt with swap-able mouth plates on it.
Chopper Face
Super Freak
Reading more Facebook comments and it seems like there is strong support for the smiling sculpt, which makes me very happy.
Maybe, just maybe I can trust a Facebook poll to produce a decent result.
I’m gauging that the tongue out may be most at risk with the neutral just behind it.
Maybe, just maybe I can trust a Facebook poll to produce a decent result.
I’m gauging that the tongue out may be most at risk with the neutral just behind it.
I’m at firmly against rolling eyes because of this same reason, it always messes with the likeness because they’re usually not eyes made specifically for the actor or actress.
The new Hot Toys TDKR Armory Bale is the first time I’ve ever seen rolling eyes actually look like the actor let’s hope that doesn’t change in production, phenomenal.
Whereas with the new Keaton, the eyes, eyelid area and faceplates are all extremely bland and could be anyone really.
With custom sculpts I love painted eyes, with production it’s a safer bet to go rolling eyes because the detail work is already there it just needs to be installed.
The new Hot Toys TDKR Armory Bale is the first time I’ve ever seen rolling eyes actually look like the actor let’s hope that doesn’t change in production, phenomenal.
Whereas with the new Keaton, the eyes, eyelid area and faceplates are all extremely bland and could be anyone really.
With custom sculpts I love painted eyes, with production it’s a safer bet to go rolling eyes because the detail work is already there it just needs to be installed.
The smirking sculpt is one I'd use most on the regular Catwoman.
Stoic sculpt looks good but a little bland.
The two more extreme sculpts, fun for a few pics but probably not something I'd display long term.
Stoic sculpt looks good but a little bland.
The two more extreme sculpts, fun for a few pics but probably not something I'd display long term.
I'd prefer two heads with a lower price.
The Batman 89 2.0 eyes and eye/eyelid shape are pretty clearly the same as Keaton's real eyes. If you want more detail like the bumpy eyelid hair follicle glands, that's not an issue of whether the eyes are moveable or static, barely anyone goes into that type of detail up close. Similar to Inart being the only ones who imitated razor burn bumps on The Batman's face while Unreal and HT didn't bother. Pretty much all of HT's recent releases with moveable eyes have looked fantastic, New Red and Blue Tom Spiderman, She-Hulk, 89 Batman. They all have pretty unique eye shape sculpts and eye detail. Inart also knocked it out of the park with their eyes for Aragorn.
Some static eyes can look fantastic, but I've only seen it from top of class custom painters who do expensive work, so unless you can get them to do all of the eyes on the mass production, the static painted eyes will most likely be closer to the below image which doesn't come close in realism, but I imagine will be fine for most buyers anyway.
If Joost does get the funds from good pre-order numbers and decides to do moveable eyes, I'm willing to bet it will actually look better than the static eyes we'll get.
Some static eyes can look fantastic, but I've only seen it from top of class custom painters who do expensive work, so unless you can get them to do all of the eyes on the mass production, the static painted eyes will most likely be closer to the below image which doesn't come close in realism, but I imagine will be fine for most buyers anyway.
If Joost does get the funds from good pre-order numbers and decides to do moveable eyes, I'm willing to bet it will actually look better than the static eyes we'll get.
Yeah for mass production rolling eyes look better simply due to how difficult painting realistically is in mass production. Proper artists bring that wet touch to the eye with gloss that a rolling one just won’t have.
The new Keaton Hot Toys eyes have way more detail than I’ve ever seen for rolling eyes. I just don’t like how they sculpted the eyelids around them leaving them wide open. Just not something he did under the cowl. I don’t understand the eye cuts? How do you manage to make the cowl more accurate but not sculpt the eye cuts in the proper directions?
The new Keaton Hot Toys eyes have way more detail than I’ve ever seen for rolling eyes. I just don’t like how they sculpted the eyelids around them leaving them wide open. Just not something he did under the cowl. I don’t understand the eye cuts? How do you manage to make the cowl more accurate but not sculpt the eye cuts in the proper directions?
I’d get behind this but what could be the lower price? $375? That’d still likely put us towards $450 for two sculpts.
S. Griffin
Super Freak
Don't underestimate the dozens of a-holes in there who say nothing, probably have no intention of buying the figure, and then vote for the dumbest poll option just because they can.
I just recently reactivated my Facebook account for the JazzInc group. The conversations there are wild, and it's like I stepped into a bizzaro world. I also saw that poll
. I hope the results are disregarded, and they offer all three heads separately from the diorama - that's the only option that even makes sense.
Scout Trooper
I scout for details...
Welp. It's settled.
They're moving into production without the rolling eyes feature.
Nothing to be done except wait for those final prototype pictures.
Although I'm confident Jazz will deliver a beautiful end result, I was really hoping for a proper 1/6 scale figure instead of, what essentially looks like, a glorified statue.
That's a body which appears less suitable for long term arm bending / posing, and a few static switch-out portraits.
It can work for a stoic character, like Batman no less, but it falls really short for a character as extremely dynamic as Catwoman.
Bottom line is this...
It's going to hurt the final product.
I figure at this critical stage before production, there's no harm in continuing to guage public interest as the product is beginning to materialize.
Other than my post being declined, the last poll that I posted was reworded by the admins to lean less in favor of the rolling eyes system. Yet despite this intervention, and the voting being locked, there was a clear shift in interest starting to peer through in the comments since the first poll.
All this to say..
There's a silly game of politics and conspiracy at play, but I don't believe Joost ever wanted to implement rolling eyes into this figure, and I doubt that's going to change regardless of anything.
But I hope I'll be proven wrong if a sales record is met.
They're moving into production without the rolling eyes feature.
Nothing to be done except wait for those final prototype pictures.
Although I'm confident Jazz will deliver a beautiful end result, I was really hoping for a proper 1/6 scale figure instead of, what essentially looks like, a glorified statue.
That's a body which appears less suitable for long term arm bending / posing, and a few static switch-out portraits.
It can work for a stoic character, like Batman no less, but it falls really short for a character as extremely dynamic as Catwoman.
Bottom line is this...
It's going to hurt the final product.
I figure at this critical stage before production, there's no harm in continuing to guage public interest as the product is beginning to materialize.
Other than my post being declined, the last poll that I posted was reworded by the admins to lean less in favor of the rolling eyes system. Yet despite this intervention, and the voting being locked, there was a clear shift in interest starting to peer through in the comments since the first poll.
All this to say..
There's a silly game of politics and conspiracy at play, but I don't believe Joost ever wanted to implement rolling eyes into this figure, and I doubt that's going to change regardless of anything.
But I hope I'll be proven wrong if a sales record is met.
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Yeah Joost mentioned in the latest interview that he could revisit rolling eyes feature depending on how successful pre-order numbers get. Our only hope for it there.
Since he plans on releasing a fully unmasked Catwoman sculpt later as a separate release, I wonder if he might be able to do a masked rolling eyes one as a double pack.
Since he plans on releasing a fully unmasked Catwoman sculpt later as a separate release, I wonder if he might be able to do a masked rolling eyes one as a double pack.
That’s the set.
Scout Trooper
I scout for details...
Scout Trooper
I scout for details...
Sigh @JazzInc
Too many good expressions won't make the cut. It's not financially possible if you're dedicating an entire sculpt for every expression.
But it works if you go the single sculpt route with a wide selection of mouthplates, and rolling eyes.
Sad to see something with great potential held back in this way.
Too many good expressions won't make the cut. It's not financially possible if you're dedicating an entire sculpt for every expression.
But it works if you go the single sculpt route with a wide selection of mouthplates, and rolling eyes.
Sad to see something with great potential held back in this way.
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