If you don't see it then it's open to interpretation.
bro......the cop
takes off his belt. come on bro. he literally undresses joker and then looks like a scene from Shawshank redemption
literally resembles Shawshank redemption scene of abuse
literally resembles Shawshank redemption scene of abuse
I would assume anyone who watched the first movie would have clued into the fact this wasn't your standard comic book Joker. So the fact this sequel charts its own path once again doesn't bother me in the least.
But if this movie really does retell the exact same character arc again, but in a different setting, then that does seem like a problem. Because you still want to see some kind of progress or development in the character.
not only is there no growth. its the opposite of progress. regression. he's more child like and more pathetic and less intelligent here than before. it's like a regression on the character.
he is literally more frail and more naive than before.
So in the film the Joker is manipulated by Harley ?as described in this article :
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/joker-2-ending-explained-arthur-fleck-death-spoilers/
Do the guards really force Arthur to kiss another inmate in one scene?
it's a troll. a test. they send the guy asking for a kiss but they expect joker to punch him or hurt the guy.
this test, this trolling is not the kiss itself.
it's to see if the joker reacts. violently or not
joker chooses to kiss him,
they are even surprised because they thought joker would be violent.
Harley is a rich woman that is obsessed with joker like a celebrity. forces joker to fire his lawyer that was helping him.
she has sex with joker. and at the end breaks up with him. dumps him.
this test, this trolling is not the kiss itself.
it's to see if the joker reacts. violently or not
joker chooses to kiss him,
they are even surprised because they thought joker would be violent.
Harley is a rich woman that is obsessed with joker like a celebrity. forces joker to fire his lawyer that was helping him.
she has sex with joker. and at the end breaks up with him. dumps him.
....
poor poor poor baby gagu
her acting career is gonna take a hit!