InArt: The Lord of the Rings - Legolas 1:6

You realize you don’t need to buy all of these figures/SKUS these companies make right? That’s not what I was saying. Misconstruing as per usual. I don’t even do that, but I can still acknowledge what is a critically acclaimed and general “power player” loved and deemed popular by the masses.

HyperDrive said:

INART makes relevant power players. Designs that actually excite. If they had Disney licenses, they’d also do characters of similar nature and staying power. You know they’d finally give us Indiana Jones (no, not Dial of f*cking Destiny Indy), Jack Sparrow (again, no, not stupid-ass DMTNT or OST Jack), a Tobey Spider-Man figure worth it’s salt from the Raimi trilogy, Alien or Aliens Ellen Ripley, etc. I didn’t even mention the boatload of Star Wars or MCU classic/iconic designs they’d be able to do too.

Sorry, but the Ashoka line, or any other “flavor of the week” products, are forgettable and I think it’s head-scratching/comical when people liken figures from subpar IPs to actual power players that INART makes. They just don’t compare. Is it okay to like “crap”? Of course. I mean, I’m getting Romulus Rain and the Scorched alien but I know it’s nowhere near the level of Alien and Aliens (even Prometheus imo). I wish people in this community were more objective.

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The licensor has the final say in what characters are produced. If InArt had a Disney license, they would face the same struggles Hot Toys does.

SwedishHeat said:

The licensor has the final say in what characters are produced. If InArt had a Disney license, they would face the same struggles Hot Toys does.

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I bet it’s more of a mutual conversation within the contractual arrangement. It’s not like the licensor dictates what these companies produce 100%.

HyperDrive said:

I bet it’s more of a mutual conversation within the contractual arrangement. It’s not like the licensor dictates what these companies produce 100%.

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You'd be surprised.

Rzeznikk said:

You'd be surprised.

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We’ll agree to disagree. I think there’s more that goes into it than a simple “the licensor tells the company what to do all the time”.

Imo…. there’s probably tons of stipulations built into the contract which is mutually set up between both parties and looks to support both their interests/company vision and goals. Maybe the licensor has a statement outlined where they say: “needs to provide at least one SKU for x new property if it meets certain revenue/reception/because we feel like it” for example. And on the flip side, maybe there’s clauses with stipulations that states the company can exercise creative liberty in terms of selection (but will need to be reviewed by licensor). We don’t know. Just spitballing here, but I’ll never know why we as a collective seem to be under this impression that it’s more of a one way street, where only the licensor seemingly dictates everything and anything including selections. These contracts are extensive and have several clauses and stipulations built in.. IMO.

The other thing I’ll add is that let’s speculatively say they did want to work together and allow INART to do Disney stuff, I think they’d need to mutually come to an understanding where it allows both companies to get that they want. For INART, it’s to add Disney licenses into their portfolio and develop SKUs in their pipeline. And I think INART would probably inform them that they’d like to make the MCs and the most iconic character designs, and they only have the production capacity to offer a few Disney characters a year. Or perhaps a wave of them starting in 2027 after they're done with the current WB “lines” they’ve started (per the livestreams last weekend).

Disney would need to understand/realize INART is a smaller scale company with a different approach than powerhouse Hot Toys and maybe Disney is like: “okay, you guys will deliver fewer SKUs but you need to provide the most relevant characters we have at our disposal at your level like you’re doing for these other licensor owned property lines.” Which would then lead to a planning and R&D stage.

OR MAYBE, both parties don’t reach a mutual agreement that benefits both of them in the way they want and either or both don’t agree to terms. Maybe Disney in this hypothetical absolutely detests the vision strategy INART has and prefers how Hot Toys operates and likes how they’re able to provide everyone and their mom from Star Wars in 1/6. I doubt that it’d be the reason why, but maybe. I myself like what INART is doing and if I was in that meeting, I think it’d be a very easy sell as to what INART can provide for Disney licensed characters in 1/6. These things would be built into the contract.

Just spitballing and speculating like most of us do here.

In the end, don’t worry guys, they’ll never get Disney licenses. I know most of y’all abhor the idea of INART landing them anyway. I’ve been told by so called “1/6 experts” (I’m not referring to anyone here on this site btw) that Sideshow has the exclusive 1/6 Disney rights and they subcontract the work to Hot Toys and in order for INART to grab a slice of the pie, it would mean Sideshow/Hot Toys needs to be involved to amend/breach whatever exclusive contract they have set up with Disney. And in my eyes, we all know Hot Toys aren’t going to harmoniously cooperate or play nice with INART. Or maybe it’s Disney who are literally good with solely Sideshow taking on the work and subcontracting it out to Hot Toys. Imo, INART would offer something more for them in this 1/6 arena which is separate to Hot Toys, but alas.

I didn’t even get into the financials piece too lol..

Johnny with INART has said several times it’s a laboring and extensive process trying to nab licenses deals and with Disney it’s probably even more complex cause well, there’s various parties involved and it’s the Mouse we’re talking about. That being said, they’re ongoing talks and it’s not like it’s a definite no. Maybe some day they do obtain them, maybe they never do. Who knows.

Yup. Unfortunately now I need this after seeing Aragorn in hand.

Anyone have experience with toysonfireuk?

Considering pre ordering with them seeing as I missed out with OSK.

Cap'n Cook said:

Anyone have experience with toysonfireuk?

Considering pre ordering with them seeing as I missed out with OSK.

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Not used them or to be honest even heard of them before and I'm in the UK.
I have just checked online reviews for them, which I expect you have anyway, and they seem to be very good. Sorry to be no more helpful than that. Maybe somebody here will come through with something a bit more concrete about them.

Cap'n Cook said:

Anyone have experience with toysonfireuk?

Considering pre ordering with them seeing as I missed out with OSK.

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Heard pretty good of them on UK HT groups

Tolkien Nerd said:

Not used them or to be honest even heard of them before and I'm in the UK.
I have just checked online reviews for them, which I expect you have anyway, and they seem to be very good. Sorry to be no more helpful than that. Maybe somebody here will come through with something a bit more concrete about them.

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AssassinHood said:

Heard pretty good of them on UK HT groups

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Thanks both, appreciate the input.

Giantoy still has Legolas too just for an extra option.

I noticed that items on Kit are 10% higher when I log in now. I guess that may apply to the balance on Legolas, pricy figure may have just become even pricier.

You mean the balance on transactions you have already pre-ordered has gone up? Surely not.

Deinonychus said:

You mean the balance on transactions you have already pre-ordered has gone up? Surely not.

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why wouldn't they? is there a "price lock" guarantee?

have you ordered anything from Sideshow coming soon? you don't think Sideshow will charge you the 10% when it comes time to settle the bill?

Wor-Gar said:

why wouldn't they? is there a "price lock" guarantee?

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Why would they? The product page clearly states total price, nrd payment, and final payment balance which is due on release.

Legolas NRD $76, Total $556, Balance $480 balance payment on release.

"previous preorders won’t be affected, we made a deal and we will try our very best stick to the deal until there’s no way we can absorb the lost"
-Kit Chen
If people are going to subscribe to media frenzy might as well collect readily available information instead of pushing a single narrative.

Pretty crappy that people would let Kit take mass losses like that after how good he is to the community. He shouldn't have to sacrifice like that. With the volume of orders he has, that's gotta be tens of thousands of dollars.

I'll certainly offer to pay him the extra on any orders I have with him if it comes down to it. Would hope people who support him regularly would do the same.

Danny-Boy said:

Why would they? The product page clearly states total price, nrd payment, and final payment balance which is due on release.

Legolas NRD $76, Total $556, Balance $480 balance payment on release.

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That page can change. I'm not sure who can absorb 10% should that tariff be in place at the time Legolas is ready for delivery.

But clearly the tariffs are wobbly and already pulled back until they can be collected easily. Let's just hope that's the end of them and whatever message was meant by them has been sent.

And here we go..

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