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you seem a bit obsessed with the sex bit - it was a small part of the books, and "sexy" doesn't mean gratuitous sex scenes.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that I don't actually give a flying figleaf what this tiny study of 1500 American 10-24 year olds wants.
it's about how the old bond is "sexist" and how more recently it gets criticized for that even by the actor playing bond himself.

well you guys keep talking about an old school type bond, but this is Amazon we are talking about, and who is going to be in charge of this?
whose going to run this?
they're not gonna have younger audiences in mind?
and also Hollywood casting now is done according to their Instagram followers lol :ROFLMAO:

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it's about how the old bond is "sexist" and how more recently it gets criticized for that even by the actor playing bond himself.

well you guys keep talking about an old school type bond, but this is Amazon we are talking about, and who is going to be in charge of this?
whose going to run this?
they're not gonna have younger audiences in mind?
and also Hollywood casting now is done according to their Instagram followers lol :ROFLMAO:

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Sigh, going round in circles on this it seems. By "Old Bond" I assume you mean the movie Bond, rather than the books, which is what I keep referring you back to. The books were written in the 1950s and the 1960s, have far less sex in them than the films, and are far grittier than the films. Read them.

Amazon has a choice - they can continue the movie/Broccoli trend of trying to awkwardly modernise Bond, or they can embrace the character and his era, Mad Men style. There are far more people who aren't in the Gen Z camp than are - Amazon will play to whichever demographic is going to bring them more money, so we'll just have to wait and see. And in the meantime, I continue to hope and wish that they embrace the Bond of the books, not pander to the easily offended and celebrity obsessed, those who are focused on which actor plays Bond more than how Bond is brought back to the screens.
 
Sigh, going round in circles on this it seems. By "Old Bond" I assume you mean the movie Bond, rather than the books, which is what I keep referring you back to. The books were written in the 1950s and the 1960s, have far less sex in them than the films, and are far grittier than the films. Read them.
I remember being ... I guess still a pre-teen, and reading one of my dad's Bond novels and being surprised by the level of cold, realistic violence and the way it was described.
 
I remember being ... I guess still a pre-teen, and reading one of my dad's Bond novels and being surprised by the level of cold, realistic violence and the way it was described.
Yes, and the simple ways a man was tortured - a wicker chair with no seat, for example - all a far cry from the ridiculously complex later movie violence.
 
if they handle bond like they did Reacher or Jack Ryan, then there's good hope for something good for hope.
we can hope to have good hope for something good like the terminal list which was also very good to have hope for.
I'm still going through Reacher S2, but damn... it's pretty bad.
Haven't checked Jack Ryan, should be good though, Krasinski is solid.
 
I'm still going through Reacher S2, but damn... it's pretty bad.
Haven't checked Jack Ryan, should be good though, Krasinski is solid.
John Krasinski is great - I wasn't sure he'd have the chops to pull it off, but he is really convincing as a young Jack Ryan.
 
I'd have to question those that believe Amazon wants "the kids" to come back to Bond. I don't think Amazon relies on "the kids" like Hollywood used to for success. I mean, "the kids" are playing video games or on tik tok... so who's watching Amazon? Old people. Who likes Bond? Old people.
 
I'd have to question those that believe Amazon wants "the kids" to come back to Bond. I don't think Amazon relies on "the kids" like Hollywood used to for success. I mean, "the kids" are playing video games or on tik tok... so who's watching Amazon? Old people. Who likes Bond? Old people.
And what am I? Old people :)
 
I'd have to question those that believe Amazon wants "the kids" to come back to Bond. I don't think Amazon relies on "the kids" like Hollywood used to for success. I mean, "the kids" are playing video games or on tik tok... so who's watching Amazon? Old people. Who likes Bond? Old people.
it's not just about "the kids" to get into bond.
it's about Amazon as a brand. none of the people working on rings of power were teens. how do you explain that train wreck? but it's about Amazon as a brand and also the people working for them.
Bond is "problematic" by today's standards. specially for Amazon. everything about him is problematic.
there's no way in hell you get a traditional bond.

someone in their mid 20s is not a kid either, and the article I posted was saying how people up
up to their mid 20s were against love scenes in movies. that's also the demographic that will find the old bond problematic
 
it's not just about "the kids" to get into bond.
it's about Amazon as a brand. none of the people working on rings of power were teens. how do you explain that train wreck? but it's about Amazon as a brand and also the people working for them.
Bond is "problematic" by today's standards. specially for Amazon. everything about him is problematic.
there's no way in hell you get a traditional bond.

someone in their mid 20s is not a kid either, and the article I posted was saying how people up
up to their mid 20s were against love scenes in movies. that's also the demographic that will find the old bond problematic
Again, go back to the Bond in the books. He's not problematic. You keep on about sex in Bond, and yet the books themselves rarely have anything close to a sex scene. Amazon can very easily make Bond the way he is in the books. Read the books!
 
Again, go back to the Bond in the books. He's not problematic. You keep on about sex in Bond, and yet the books themselves rarely have anything close to a sex scene. Amazon can very easily make Bond the way he is in the books. Read the books!

they couldn't properly adapt Tolkiens works :slap

Really? Have you seen many of these people today? They're 25 going on 17.

they are amazons target audience
 
25 year olds? Really? I truly doubt it. Why would they be? They have no money and spend little time watching movies compared to previous generations, they are not as big as boomers/gen x audience who have savings/retirement to spend.

nothing in the past 5 years has been made for boomers, not Netflix not Disney not Amazon. everything is literally made for zoomers .

Rings of Power isn’t an adaptation.

they didn't respect the material.why would they respect this
 
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