007 franchise sold to Amazon including creative control

[ZE_501]

Hopkins is 87. Are you sure lol??

I'm not even *that* old yet but sometimes I feel like all of us on this forum be like:

 

[crows]

I'd have to question those that believe Amazon wants "the kids" to come back to Bond. I don't think Amazon relies on "the kids" like Hollywood used to for success. I mean, "the kids" are playing video games or on tik tok... so who's watching Amazon? Old people. Who likes Bond? Old people.

it's not just about "the kids" to get into bond.
it's about Amazon as a brand. none of the people working on rings of power were teens. how do you explain that train wreck? but it's about Amazon as a brand and also the people working for them.
Bond is "problematic" by today's standards. specially for Amazon. everything about him is problematic.
there's no way in hell you get a traditional bond.

someone in their mid 20s is not a kid either, and the article I posted was saying how people up
up to their mid 20s were against love scenes in movies. that's also the demographic that will find the old bond problematic

 

[choombaz]

Ford should play the villain. He’s 82 and making two tv shows atm and playing a bad guy in the MCU. Unstoppable.

 

[HanFiredFirst]

it's not just about "the kids" to get into bond.
it's about Amazon as a brand. none of the people working on rings of power were teens. how do you explain that train wreck? but it's about Amazon as a brand and also the people working for them.
Bond is "problematic" by today's standards. specially for Amazon. everything about him is problematic.
there's no way in hell you get a traditional bond.

someone in their mid 20s is not a kid either, and the article I posted was saying how people up
up to their mid 20s were against love scenes in movies. that's also the demographic that will find the old bond problematic

Again, go back to the Bond in the books. He's not problematic. You keep on about sex in Bond, and yet the books themselves rarely have anything close to a sex scene. Amazon can very easily make Bond the way he is in the books. Read the books!

 

[Wor-Gar]

someone in their mid 20s is not a kid either

Really? Have you seen many of these people today? They're 25 going on 17.

 

[ZE_501]

Ford should play the villain. He’s 82 and making two tv shows atm and playing a bad guy in the MCU. Unstoppable.

Nah, pretty sure I can take him.

 

[Wor-Gar]

A fake door on a movie set took him out 10 years ago.

 

[crows]

Again, go back to the Bond in the books. He's not problematic. You keep on about sex in Bond, and yet the books themselves rarely have anything close to a sex scene. Amazon can very easily make Bond the way he is in the books. Read the books!

they couldn't properly adapt Tolkiens works

Really? Have you seen many of these people today? They're 25 going on 17.

they are amazons target audience

 

[HanFiredFirst]

they couldn't properly adapt Tolkiens works



they are amazons target audience

Rings of Power isn’t an adaptation.

 

[Wor-Gar]

they are amazons target audience

25 year olds? Really? I truly doubt it. Why would they be? They have no money and spend little time watching movies compared to previous generations, they are not as big as boomers/gen x audience who have savings/retirement to spend.

 

[crows]

25 year olds? Really? I truly doubt it. Why would they be? They have no money and spend little time watching movies compared to previous generations, they are not as big as boomers/gen x audience who have savings/retirement to spend.

nothing in the past 5 years has been made for boomers, not Netflix not Disney not Amazon. everything is literally made for zoomers .

Rings of Power isn’t an adaptation.

they didn't respect the material.why would they respect this

 

[Wor-Gar]

nothing in the past 5 years has been made for boomers, not Netflix not Disney not Amazon. everything is literally made for zoomers .

where do you get that?

 

[crows]

where do you get that?

how they avoid to do anything "offensive ". on how everything feels sanitized. nothing is edgy anymore. except horror.

 

[HanFiredFirst]

nothing in the past 5 years has been made for boomers, not Netflix not Disney not Amazon. everything is literally made for zoomers .



they didn't respect the material.why would they respect this

Again, it’s not an adaptation. It’s “based on”, “inspired by”. It’s not canon, it’s just based on characters and events mentioned in the Silmarillion and the histories, nothing that was published during Tolkien’s life

 

[Wor-Gar]

how they avoid to do anything "offensive ". on how everything feels sanitized. nothing is edgy anymore. except horror.

In that way, perhaps. They do adjust for cultural preferences of any period.

But to say Jack Ryan and Reacher are for today's kids...

 

[Lejuan]

how they avoid to do anything "offensive ". on how everything feels sanitized. nothing is edgy anymore. except horror.

...you think that's because of zoomers rather than a general societal shift in mores and attitudes coupled with a diversification of writers/producers beyond the traditionally straight, white male mold?

What's not 'edgy' enough for you exactly? What are you hoping to be "offended" by?

 

[jye4ever]

I don’t care what decade they set it in just give me lots of Daphne Keen T&A and i’ll be there opening night first show!

 

[crows]

Again, it’s not an adaptation. It’s “based on”, “inspired by”. It’s not canon, it’s just based on characters and events mentioned in the Silmarillion and the histories, nothing that was published during Tolkien’s life

and that wouldn't be the case here ?

In that way, perhaps. They do adjust for cultural preferences of any period.

But to say Jack Ryan and Reacher are for today's kids...

it depends, Jack Ryan and Reacher are good, but still pretty safe. bond already has a risky reputation, that's definitely on their minds, his risky reputation,
Amazon might do a good job, I might like it. it might be good, faithful to the books, but bond brings a lot of baggage because of the movies,

...you think that's because of zoomers rather than a general societal shift in mores and attitudes coupled with a diversification of writers/producers beyond the traditionally straight, white male mold?

What's not 'edgy' enough for you exactly? What are you hoping to be "offended" by?

 

[crows]

I don’t care what decade they set it in just give me lots of Daphne Keen T&A and i’ll be there opening night first show!

 

[Felinx]

Where to start?
I first read 1984 in about that year, at school, so the lecture on Orwell isn't required, thanks! I've even visited Jura where he wrote it.
You fail to see the dangers of your own system - the eradication of rights before your very eyes - and focus on the ills of the world, which is inherently dangerous. The "don't look at us, look over there!" antics of your government, as you dismantle Roe v Wade, from under the very eyes of your citizens, is exactly how democracy is undermined. The focus on other country's issues, how they treat women, and wagging a finger at them, as your own country erodes its own women's rights, is terrifying to see.
I'll also add in that Margaret Atwood didn't just look to Iran for inspiration - for the source of Gilead she looked much closer to (your) home. The KKK, the white supremacist movements in the US, the battle of the Bible Belt, the power and influence of the far right in the US - all the events in the world that led to the eradication of rights, the rise of the right, the terrifying exercise of power under a flag, all led to her great "What if?" that is the Handmaid's Tale. I'll pop in a link when I find the Penguin article I read on her influences.
And the River Orwell is nowhere near London, but you're technically correct that it is outside London.

Dude seriously, book a trip to Iran, or China, or Russia, or North Korea, or the middle east, or nearly anywhere in Africa - and wear a gay rights shirt, or give some lip to any authority figure, or wear your star of david, or have your wife proudly "choose" to not to wear a headscarf (mine did indeed wear one.) And watch your rights get wiped off with toilet paper. That's a reality that billions on your planet live with.

And the KKK? It was ancient history even 40 years ago when Atwood wrote Handmaids - Iran on the other hand, is indeed the ACTUAL world of Handmaids Tale, down to the smallest detail... in 2025. Nearly 100 million people living like that - TODAY - just doesn't matter to you, lost in the BBC bubble of microaggression, -isms, -phobias, neo-whatevers. Legally defined as thoughtcrime and doublethink.

Handing back abortion rights to states is a far greater danger to humanity than women dragged into vans to be never seen again... simply for not covering themselves properly. Different to us but equal, bro. No position to judge, bro.

And yes, the river Orwell is indeed outside London - as I said (not "near" as you said, though an hour's train ride away is not exactly Scotland) - but it clearly flows directly into the Thames and into Westminster, Scotland yard and the BBC. Hence your world view that downplays or ignores the sheer horror of how the global majority must live - under the guise of "we don't go there."

Go back to Jura and this time post an edgy meme... and see how long it takes for the thought police to arrive. And have your 16 year old kid quote a rap lyric on social media and she can sit in jail with you. Yes, utterly terrifying. Even though the dull 1984 movie version did bioarrely reframe it all as a warning aganist fascism, not socialism (as it actually is,) don't say Eric Blair didn't warn you about all of this in high school, Mr. Goldstein.