1/6 Kyrr Geron (Mandalorian) Custom Figure (FIRST UPDATE IN 5 MONTHS)

[the dude person]

Re: 1/6 Kyrr Geron (Mandalorian) Custom Figure

Hmmm... I'll defintely have to look into those some time...

I actually stay away from the ungodly sites out there, and somehow still managed to get some awful virus that makes my computer act like my mouse has been double clicked, when I only clicked it once. I STILL have had no luck getting rid or it, I have no idea where exactly it came from, and I have confirmed that it's not my mouse itself malfunctioning.

If that's what I get WITH Internet security, what'll happen without it?better to play it safe for now IMO.



Anyway, I'm going to get it all sorted out today, and perhaps work on trying to get my helmet printed out. I'll post pics if I get anywhere with it.

 

[Vivisect]

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DP, if you ever have a serious problem, go here
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix
and download Combofix and follow the instructions, they are very simple instructions, but make sure you follow them to the letter as this program can in very rare instances cause more damage if you dont. This program will get rid of anything that a normal antivirus can't or doesnt remove, or reset.

Rule #1, is only Download Combofix.exe from the link on that page.

The problem is lots of the nastiest viruses change hidden system settings, and when most antivirus programs clean the virus from your system, they don't fix that stuff since it doesn't know if the virus did it or you wanted it that way, since every bodies software setup is different.

So the only side effect of combo fix resetting this stuff to default, is little things like your desktop icons forgetting where you placed them, folder options and things like that reseting, but it also fixes those system changes the virus made to make your pc even more vulnerable than when you got the virus in the first place, like showing hidden system files, opening hidden ports, and adding exceptions to your firewall and stuff like that, and can also set your mouse to single click mode.

Anyhow I hope this helps. Also, I think that the program has a Thunder Cats icon if I remember right.

Same here...on both programs. No issues yet.

Yea, its pretty much the same protection as paying for other crap, and its less intrusive and less of a system hog than things like Norton and such.

Years back I had Norton for a while and it was a hassle because it liked to think a lot of video game anti cheating programs such as VAC and Punkbuster were viruses because they scan your memory and such.

 

[the dude person]

Re: 1/6 Kyrr Geron (Mandalorian) Custom Figure

Well, I've got some news.

I used the printed out the helmet (twice, the first time it was too small) and assembled it, now I've started mashing Sculpey over it to smooth it out and reinforce it. I haven't gotten a chance to "bake" the sculpey yet, as I usually use my super cheap-arse lamp (it turns ordinary bulbs into death rays, like I said, super cheap. Probably made in China. Not just by underpaid, unskilled Chinese workers, but probably the Chinese monkeys owned by the underpaid, unskilled Chinese workers. Either that, or it's just made in America. )

anyway, I usually use my lamp to cook sculpey outside to avoid any of the possible carcinogens Sculpey is said to release when it's overcooked. And cooking it inside, even around reccomended temperatures, probably can't be very good for you anyway.

But here's the problem: By the time I'm home and have some free time, it's around 42 degrees Farenheit outside (that's about 5 and a half degrees Celsius), when the clay needs to heat up to 275 F for 15 minutes to cure.

Even with my Chinese Death Ray, cooking Sculpey outside in such weather is extremely difficult. Especially since it gets dark so early in the day (thanks a lot, Dubya! )

So I'll post pics when I can, and I'll be sure to let you guys know if I ever get the Sculpey cured without getting cancer.

 

[Crimsonbob]

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Sounds good, and i had a lamp like that but it smelt like fish so i threw it away

 

[the dude person]

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Sounds good, and i had a lamp like that but it smelt like fish so i threw it away

You're lucky! Mine just smells like... well, burning stuff. Burning plastic, perhaps.

Chinese Cheapo's! They didn't even bother to make my lamp fish-scented. I feel cheated.


I got it for super cheap a while back, and have since acquired many more desklamps (at least 3 or 4). But when I left the lamp too close to a water bottle, and the water bottle melted, I thought it might still be useful.




Anyway, I've been considering trying the hair dryer method for curing the clay, but that'd be sort of loud if I did it outside, might draw attention from the neighbors...

I may have to just go buy a Sculpey-dedicated toaster oven.

I'll keep trying with the lamp for now though. Since I'll be home this weekend while the sun's still shining, I might get lucky and find a time where it's warm enough out for the Sculpey to cure...

If nothing else this weekend I'll at least post some pics of what I've got so far.

 

[bidufarewell]

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Nice skills DP! looking good.

 

[the dude person]

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My goodness! I can't believe I actually never posted pics of my progress on this figure... I'm so lazy...

Anyway, I made some progress on getting the helmet finished today, so I took some pics. Then I realized that I never posted all the other pics I have that I took throughout the last few months... So, here's long overdue pics from forever ago.

First off, here's some of the flak vest pattern I made out of printer paper. I taped the armor to the vest to get a feel for what the final product might look like.

Here's one with the Hasbro helmet, just as a mockup.

and here's one of the pattern unfolded.

The vest isn't made yet, unfortunately. I can't find the swatches of real leather they used to sell at Michaels somewhere... I remember seeing them several times, but as soon as I actually needed the leather and looked for it, it wasn't there any more.

I'll have to order some from the internet sometime...

Oh and the jumpsuit underneath the flak vest is from my Hasbro Jango Fett, I've made some progress toward a jumpsuit of my own, but haven't taken pics yet... and I lost the pattern I made for it!

The HS you see in those pics is not necessarily Kyrr Geron's face, I haven't decided what to do about an HS for him (whether I should find one or sculpt my own.) It was just what I had lying around that would fit on the TrueType. (when I say "the TrueType, I mean the TrueType! I only have one ATM... )

I'll be posting more pics shortly....

 

[the dude person]

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Seems like there's barely anyone around this time of day... Anyway, back to posting more ancient pictures.

So first, what I did was use this program called Pepakura to "unfold" the 3D helmet model I made. After some tweaking within Pepakura, I had a nice printable helmet template. Here's what it looked like:

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so once I determined the accurate scale from almighty Google, I adjusted the size and printed it on some cardstock paper. Now, it looks like it's a nice, even grey. But actually...

... it's a stripy purple! My printer has been running low on ink, and only works sporatically anyway. This is actually V.2 of the helmet, you can see V.1 (also purple) already taped together between the other two helmets. V.1 was actually too small to fit on anyone's head, so I had to reprint it larger...

anyway I roughly cut out the dome...

and then started working on cutting out around all those triangles (it's a lot of triangles!! )

Once it was cut out, I bent the triangles very smoothly (no creases, this is supposed to be a dome after all) and then taped everything into place. At this point, it actually does look like a dome.

Which, as you can see, fits on the Hasbro Jango helmet almost perfectly (even though I designed my helmet without any input from the Hasbro Jango, I used official pics and measurements)

I didn't take step by step pictures for the whole thing, but eventually I cut everything out and taped all the pieces together on the inside (which was really a pain for the dome), and at this point it was actually starting to look like a helmet.

From left to right: My first attempt at Kyrr Geron's helmet, using templates I found on the dented helmet forums through Google; V.1 of the helmet made with my own templates, too small to fit on any head; V.2 of the helmet, just about the same size as the Hasbro Jango; the Hasbro Jango Fett helmet (obviously)





Then, the purple was really getting to me. So I decided I would paint it grey (it looks so much nicer this way, I think)

here's a comparison shot at an angle.

So since then I've done a bit more with it, but that's all the pictures I can have in one post.

What do you guys think so far?

 

[the dude person]

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Right, so not that anyone seems to be paying attention at the moment... But onward with the pictures! These are more recent ones I took....

See I actually picked up an old nasty toaster oven for cheap a while back, after deciding my chinese death beams would not be sufficient in the middle of winter.

There's just a few problems with it... Like the dial goes down to 200 degrees F, and sculpey needs to be at 275 for 15 mins. to bake.

Problem is, I kept burning things somehow, even when supposedly at 250 for 10 minutes! (Fortunately when the sculpey turned black and released its cancerous gases, the oven was plugged in outside!)

So I got an oven thermometer and popped it in when it was set on the lowest setting (200 deg. F)... and after 5 minutes, the thermometer said it was about 350 degrees in there!!!

So now my technique is, I turn the little toaster oven on to 200, and then a few minutes later, I turn it off. By then it's usually around 300 or so, so I just leave the oven open and wait until the thermometer cools down to about 275 or so. Then I pop my sculpey piece in there, close it, and check on it every few minutes.

The heat that's left is actually enough to cook it a bit (better than the heat lamp does, anyway.)

So after I had my paper helmet assembled and painted a nice gray, I started mashing sculpey on it to smooth everything out (especially the dome) and to give it some structural integrity.

Unfortunately, I forgot to take pics of the earlier stages of the sculpey addition ( I added sculpey to the front and used my heat lamp to cook it on before I got my toaster oven), but just yesterday I used my oven cool-down technique to bake most of the rest of it. Now most of it has been covered, except the back, where I need to make the vent thingy...

Here's how it turned out after a little sanding.

It needs some more sculpey here and there, but I'm going to make the vent in the back before I fill all the cracks. I still need to add some structural support before I do anything else (maybe some paper + superglue on the inside of the helmet to keep the different pieces together.)

So after adding the vent in the back, all I need to do is figure out the ears/rangefinder, fill the cracks and gaps with more sculpey, then paint it and I think I'll have a pretty good helmet.

Here's some more comparison shots between it and the Hasbro Jango bucket.

I think it worked out pretty well so far. I still need to add the vent seen here:

right now it looks like:

Anyway that's all I've done on this project so far. What do you guys think?

 

[Crimsonbob]

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Getting there but im glad ive never used sculpey it sounds like a complete ass to use.

 

[Dorgmal Snow]

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gettin there indeed man... with sculpty you bake it on a mega low low heat or the edges with burn and it will shrink and alsorts. I think if it is thin you can hair dryer it Dude.

 

[the dude person]

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Getting there but im glad ive never used sculpey it sounds like a complete ass to use.

Yeah, it sorta is! It's better than epoxy stuff for things you sculpt over long periods of time though. I don't have any modeler's epoxy, I just have that godawful Mighty Putty stuff... can't apply it to helmets in less than a half-centimeter thick layer, it just cannot be manipulated well... Maybe I'll have to try the epoxy stuff they sell at hobby shops...

gettin there indeed man... with sculpty you bake it on a mega low low heat or the edges with burn and it will shrink and alsorts. I think if it is thin you can hair dryer it Dude.

Yeah, thanks, good advice. I also learned that baking it in a toaster oven on a sheet of aluminum foil is not a good idea.... The aluminum foil heats up too much and burns the sculpey. Luckily I have found a few bathroom tiles that fit inside the toaster oven just perfectly, the ceramic tiles keep it from burning as much.

I figure that since the empty toaster oven is cooling down after I turn it off, once it gets down below 275 it can't burn the sculpey, because it'll always be below the reccommended temperature from there on out...

The hairdryer idea sounds like it'd work, but I'm planning to do some things in the future that would require thicker sculpey pieces, so the Death Trap (as I have christened the little toaster oven) will be better in the long run, I think.

Hmmm now what to do about those ears.... Might have to sculpt em from scratch...

 

[witekite]

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If I might offer my help into this project I think I can make things a bit easier for you. I wish I would have been able to help you before you started all of the work with the sculpy. I did the exact same thing you are doing to make your helmet to make my Halo ODST armor. You have the right idea to use card stock in the pepakura to make your helmet that's what I used as well. But did one extra thing that you missed. When people do the full size pepakura to make the life size armor they coat the folded card stock in fiber glass. But working in this scale fiberglass won't work two gloppy and expensive. I figured a way to do the exact same thing only in this small scale you coat the finished pepakura model in super glue. That way it will harden the card stock and give you a good solid base to start your sculpting the details on because I am sure you had to deal with a flimsy helmet which would make sculpting difficult. And the epoxy I think would make like a whole lot easier it hardens rock hard and is very easy to sand...and it dries by itself

Here are a few pics of my finished ODST to show you what you can achieve. You are on the right track with the pepekura and I hope my short little message will help you finish your project. If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I'll help you out...I'm somewhat of an expert at this through a lot of trial and error.

All of the armor is removable as well...the ODST project took over 5 months to complete but it was def worth the time and is one of my coolest custom pieces I own!

 

[the dude person]

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Wow witekite, that turned out very nicely!

And yeah I had little paper supports on the inside of the helmet to help it keep its shape. That worked pretty well, and now that there's baked sculpey on most of it, it can hold its shape on its own.

And I guess I was on the right track with the super-gluing paper to the inside to make it stronger (that's what I was planning to do next anyway before filling all the cracks.)


Thanks for the advice!

 

[Crimsonbob]

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Yeah that ODST is very cool and so is the superglue idea.

 

[Dorgmal Snow]

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Great start DP, love the step by steps and great tips Witekite. The Halo armour is INSANE man I love it. Have you got a thread elsewhere on the boards for this I would love to see more pics.

 

[witekite]

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here is a link to my customs thread..It has pics of every piece of the armor and some of my other customs too
https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69158

 

[the dude person]

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I thought I was becoming quite popular! Now I see that it's just witekite hijacking my thread!

Just kidding....



Anyway, I hope to start work on the vent in the back sometime today... o Hmm, "vent in the back," that doesn't sound right at all!)

 

[the dude person]

Re: 1/6 Kyrr Geron (Mandalorian) Custom Figure

Well, I haven't made much progress on the armor... But here's the headsculpt I mentioned I was working on months ago....

(Sorry for the crappy pics)

I added hair to the front of it, (he's bald in the back! ) and decided he might be salvageable. After I thought he looked too old, I decided he would become just a general headsculpt to practice sculpting on. Once I added hair, I realized he might still have potential!

So what do you guys think? He may not look young enough to be Kyrr Geron (haven't decided yet,) but I was thinking he might make a nice Kal Skirata some day....

 

[big guy]

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Looking good and as for the ODST guy OUTSTANDING. Don`t supposed you cast the removable armour and SMG?

I have got the McFarl ODST helmet, 2x Magnum pistols, that McFarl rifle and 2 x Battle rifles (one from the 12" MC and the other a 12" statue MC), 2 x Brute bladed pistols and ELITE sword. Also a disected 12" statue MC.
If no casts any chance of a pm with a how to on the armour and SMG or a thread for it as I`d like to get one built myself.