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I love all the announcements of new lines. I cannot afford to be a completist, so I will pick and choose my favorites from SW and LOTR, 12" and PF. Hopefully the quality will remain excellent with all the added workload for them.
 
kierbaudy said:
A couple of very reliable sources have said that sideshow dropped Weta and not the other way around. Do we know for certain it was weta that dropped sideshow?

Sideshow did choose not to do a Kong or Narnia partnership but very reliable sources have stated that that it was Weta.
 
Not sure, but it seems like Sideshow could've renewed the 1/6 rights with Newline. Per the news releases, it looks to me like NewLine is in control of the movie license--heck, I'm sure if Sideshow wanted to, they could've negotiated the rights for 1/5, 1/8, 1/16, 1/9 line, ad infinitum. I'm surprised they didn't go that route and just bring the 1/6 line in-house. Granted, "Sideshow-Weta" was a great selling point, but at the end of the day, I would have jumped all over an Prologue Elven warrior. Toss in a few more good ones and the line would've been revitalized: Fountain Guard, Faramir, Rohan Royal Guard on Steed (!), etc.
 
For whatever reason the marriage between SS and Weta brokedown it sucks but it happens. I'm just glad it happened to get the items that did get made.

I don't think the SS 1/6th or PF LOTR pieces will be inferior to the SSW line and neither do I think it works in reverse. To say one line is just so much freaking better than the other is freaking stupid.
 
Firstly i dont believe it is right to call my opinion or anyone elses on this board stupid!!! It is in my opinion that the 1/6 line is better than the pf and i do have both and i find that the polystone line just seem like the better line. But again that is just one opinion. Still , whatever the partnership was or who's fault is irrelevant...the collectors...namely us...should have been treated better is all.....i mean there are so many collectors i know that have wishlists for statues that were never made.....and after spending all that money on pieces only to have them lose value because of ridiculous edition sizes is upsetting and it should be for all of us. I dont believe waiting on preorders to determine edition size is fair...its greedy!!! It drives value down and makes fools of serious collectors. I understand Weta had something to do with it...but couldnt Sideshow have interjected or continued on the 1/6th line themself? I mean they got the PF and 12"...just a bit flustered is all.....i hope the PF line does rock and kick ass....im just a bit skeptical....i dont want them looking like toys....thats all.
Happy new Years to all fellow Freaks!!!:naughty
 
Hehe, the days of pre-set edition sizes are over for Sideshow. Hell, even when they pre-set the edition sizes, they're liable to change it (Dr. Doom anyone?). And besides, with "exclusives" they can just throw in bow, sword, boot, spoon, or whatever, and crank out a gazillion regular pieces if need be. So although it might be nice to own the exclusive, the impact of having 5,000 regular pieces floating around is still going to adversely affect the collectibility of the exclusive item.
 
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Vizcad said:
Firstly i dont believe it is right to call my opinion or anyone elses on this board stupid!!!

Ok maybe not stupid but how about childish? I mean it's like saying, "My dad can beat up your dad." Overall, I think the poly line is better but that doesn't make it so. It's not that when people say I think something is better than something that gets people pissed, but how the post can possibly be read by another. Nothing more nothing less.

Vizcad said:
Still , whatever the partnership was or who's fault is irrelevant...the collectors...namely us...should have been treated better is all.....i mean there are so many collectors i know that have wishlists for statues that were never made

Treated better? Unless, I just fell a sleep at the wheel I would say really we couldn't have been treated much better. We got high class items IMO for pretty good prices and the best CS around. :D So where collectors treated badly because some statues on some people's wish lists didn't get made? Come on!!! I've got wishlists for not only this line but other things in my life I wouldn't consider anything mistreatment if they never happened or never got made. I agree and said that a few of the non-important Orcs could have been left out so Faramir, Denethor, and Eomer could have been made.

Vizcad said:
.....and after spending all that money on pieces only to have them lose value because of ridiculous edition sizes is upsetting and it should be for all of us.

It's not for me. I don't collect because of the value though some do ;). It's nice to know they are worth more than I paid I totally agree with that but it doesn't get my panties in a wad if they aren't either. :D

Vizcad said:
I dont believe waiting on preorders to determine edition size is fair...its greedy!!!

No more so than wanting super tiny ones so some can turn around and sell something on ebay for 5x it's MSRP. Just like life this road works both ways. You can't want there to be a demand and keep super tiny ES and hope to make big $$$ without the ES going up. Now, I do admit the ES over about 5500 are a too high but that's what happens when you have people ordering 2 of every piece.

Vizcad said:
It drives value down and makes fools of serious collectors.

You mean greedy collectors? So your only a serious collector if you care if the value stays high? Or if the ES is a certain #?

Don't get me wrong I like knowing my items are worth more than what I paid (especially if I fall on hard times and have to sell for whatever reason) and that I'm one of a certain # of collectors to own something. However, I don't look at it as a slap in the face on the ES or if it goes down. I'm more interested in having fantastic items from the best story on the planet. For me personally the only piece I have that I like more than Sauron which has a ES of 9500 is the Original Balrog statue.

It's about the story for me I guess is what I'm saying.

Vizcad said:
I understand Weta had something to do with it...but couldnt Sideshow have interjected or continued on the 1/6th line themself?

They could if someone doesn't own the rights to it but all poly items like that I don't think are really SS main interest.
 
No one called your opinion stupid that I can see, some just wholeheartedly disagreed.

Sideshow and Weta both know that some collectors were disappointed in the end of the 1/6 line. But this is the nature of film licenses, especially when dealing with a partnership between companies.

Perhaps one or the other company or maybe even Danbury Mint will pick up the license for statues and crank out the 2 or 3 that some collectors feel they are owed.

But for now we have 2 new exciting lines that some of us are more excited about than we ever could be about the statues.
 
Agent23 said:
Your not gonna sell off your Weta LOTR pieces (polystone) are you Fritz?

I think so, probably most of them. I'll keep about 20 pieces or so that I really like. I can't decide if I'm going to keep the helms either. I spent so much time getting all of them. I'm really jazzed about 1/4 scale.
 
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