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Looks like she went in. Maybe we're just suppose to guess. It looks like they're going to match up him and Skye, which I don't want them to do. May either really but at least that wouldn't be romantic. :lol

May and Ward doing it would be like a Klingons mating ritual. :rotfl
 
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Tonight was better. :lol

The Swedish park rangers pulling up in their vehicle to complain about the graffiti - in ENGLISH?

Dumb.

It's an American show - sure, but is the use of some quick subtitling to add a little authenticity, too much for a US audience to swallow in the director's eyes or something? :lol
 
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Tonight was better. :lol

The Swedish park rangers pulling up in their vehicle to complain about the graffiti - in ENGLISH?

Dumb.

It's an American show - sure, but is the use of some quick subtitling to add a little authenticity, too much for a US audience to swallow in the director's eyes or something? :lol

Americans can't read english. :rotfl
 
Re: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series!

BAD:

I hate to hold advertising against a TV show or a movie, but it’s hard not to be disappointed about the bait and switch with the latest episode of Agents of SHIELD. Promoted as a tie-in with Thor: The Dark World, the episode had a brief opening sequence that saw Coulson’s team (they really need a squad name) cleaning up debris left by Thor’s battle with Malekith… and that was it. The rest of the episode was, admittedly, centered around an Asgardian artifact, but it was one that had nothing at all to do with the movie.

It didn’t have much to do with Asgard at all, really. The artifact was a Berserker Staff, which fills the bearer with intense rage and gives them superstrength. I’m not sure if such a thing exists in the Marvel Comics universe, but the staff on this episode felt like a generic MacGuffin Stick more than anything else. Asgard’s just the frilly lace they hung on this thing to make it Marvel-esque, as opposed to a generic item that could have popped up in The X-Files.

To be fair, the rage stick did give an opportunity for the show to explore a little bit about Agent Banana Republic and his own issues, including a repressed childhood memory that sort of shows his heroic origin story and that hints at an even worse relationship with his older brother than we thought (and also shows that Grant was a chubster as a kid). Much more interesting was the very offhand way it was used to explore Matilda May, who picks it up and remains uneffected by the anger it bestows because, like Bruce Banner, she’s always carrying it with her.

But everything else was kind of dull. The stick showed up not because of Thor: The Dark World but because some generic Norsemen had heard legends about it and began hunting the pieces down. These guys are nobodies, with nothing interesting about them. They basically exist to show up at a church at the end and have a fight scene. The episode is much more interested in exploring other characters, but the thin villains speak to a larger Marvel Cinematic Universe villain problem - it’s like the opposite of the Batman movies here, with so few of the villains thus far truly registering.

Peter MacNicol guest stars as a Norse myth expert who turns out to be an Asgardian who exiled himself to Earth. The episode threatens to get interesting when he’s being interrogated and talks about what it’s like to be non-royalty on Asgard, where the lifespans are measured in millenia. He was a mason, and after thousands of years breaking rocks he decided to start over on Earth. That’s interesting! Which is why it was relegated to a quick conversation, I guess.

All of the tedium of the episode was almost worth it for the end, which saw Grant and Matilda May lock eyes in their hotel hallway and then, presumably, have a hot and heavy tryst (it’s an 8pm network show, so the hotel room door closes and the show smash cuts to commercial). That comes right after Skye all but throws herself at Grant in the hotel bar. That relationship seemed to be what the show was building towards, but I like this wrinkle a whole lot. Grant and Matilda make more sense in terms of understanding each other, and keeping Skye on the outside makes her a more interesting character.

On the positive side maybe this will be an episode we one day look back on as a minor entry with a major character bit at the end. I keep holding out faith that this show will improve, and it was for a while, but this episode feels like big time backsliding. And don’t get me started on the endlessly repetitive scenes of Coulson telling someone he died; he’s turned into that guy at the bar who drops his same sob story on every soul unlucky enough to grab the stool next to him. Coulson has become pathetic with this ‘I died and don’t know what happened’ ****, and there must be a better way for the show to keep that thread alive without finding excuses for him to get expository with it.

Get your **** together, Agents of SHIELD. You were building actual promise for a few episodes. You can do better than this.
 
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Maybe a spoiler tag would've been in order for those not yet up to speed, Jye? :lol

I basically agree with most of that though - especially so regarding Skye & Himbo - & May. That was a good little twist. :)

On the whole, as I said - better, but yeah. Anyway.. :lol
 
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, jye.

Although I actually liked the episode a little better than average because I felt like the staff, as generic a McGuffin as it was, was still something much more specific than what has been thrown at us from the beginning. Still not as good as it has the potential to be.

And I agree the show was a total bait and switch! The promoted it as the tie-in to Thor 2, and it begins that way, but then they switch to a whole other artifact? At first I thought it was a piece that had splintered off and landed in Norway, but then it turned out it was a whole other thing! And I agree it would have been fine if that's what the whole episode was about. No need for the movie tie in. But the fact that they had this hair-thin tie in was ridiculous.

Still liking the characters for the most part. Still hoping they get some better plots.
 
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I had 4 episodes in my PVR box and I deleted them all.
this show is so boring and I am sorry SHIELD response team is a bunch of teen.

give me a break!

done with this show.
 
Re: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series!

BAD:

I hate to hold advertising against a TV show or a movie, but it’s hard not to be disappointed about the bait and switch with the latest episode of Agents of SHIELD. Promoted as a tie-in with Thor: The Dark World, the episode had a brief opening sequence that saw Coulson’s team (they really need a squad name) cleaning up debris left by Thor’s battle with Malekith… and that was it. The rest of the episode was, admittedly, centered around an Asgardian artifact, but it was one that had nothing at all to do with the movie.

It didn’t have much to do with Asgard at all, really. The artifact was a Berserker Staff, which fills the bearer with intense rage and gives them superstrength. I’m not sure if such a thing exists in the Marvel Comics universe, but the staff on this episode felt like a generic MacGuffin Stick more than anything else. Asgard’s just the frilly lace they hung on this thing to make it Marvel-esque, as opposed to a generic item that could have popped up in The X-Files.

To be fair, the rage stick did give an opportunity for the show to explore a little bit about Agent Banana Republic and his own issues, including a repressed childhood memory that sort of shows his heroic origin story and that hints at an even worse relationship with his older brother than we thought (and also shows that Grant was a chubster as a kid). Much more interesting was the very offhand way it was used to explore Matilda May, who picks it up and remains uneffected by the anger it bestows because, like Bruce Banner, she’s always carrying it with her.

But everything else was kind of dull. The stick showed up not because of Thor: The Dark World but because some generic Norsemen had heard legends about it and began hunting the pieces down. These guys are nobodies, with nothing interesting about them. They basically exist to show up at a church at the end and have a fight scene. The episode is much more interested in exploring other characters, but the thin villains speak to a larger Marvel Cinematic Universe villain problem - it’s like the opposite of the Batman movies here, with so few of the villains thus far truly registering.

Peter MacNicol guest stars as a Norse myth expert who turns out to be an Asgardian who exiled himself to Earth. The episode threatens to get interesting when he’s being interrogated and talks about what it’s like to be non-royalty on Asgard, where the lifespans are measured in millenia. He was a mason, and after thousands of years breaking rocks he decided to start over on Earth. That’s interesting! Which is why it was relegated to a quick conversation, I guess.

All of the tedium of the episode was almost worth it for the end, which saw Grant and Matilda May lock eyes in their hotel hallway and then, presumably, have a hot and heavy tryst (it’s an 8pm network show, so the hotel room door closes and the show smash cuts to commercial). That comes right after Skye all but throws herself at Grant in the hotel bar. That relationship seemed to be what the show was building towards, but I like this wrinkle a whole lot. Grant and Matilda make more sense in terms of understanding each other, and keeping Skye on the outside makes her a more interesting character.

On the positive side maybe this will be an episode we one day look back on as a minor entry with a major character bit at the end. I keep holding out faith that this show will improve, and it was for a while, but this episode feels like big time backsliding. And don’t get me started on the endlessly repetitive scenes of Coulson telling someone he died; he’s turned into that guy at the bar who drops his same sob story on every soul unlucky enough to grab the stool next to him. Coulson has become pathetic with this ‘I died and don’t know what happened’ ****, and there must be a better way for the show to keep that thread alive without finding excuses for him to get expository with it.

Get your **** together, Agents of SHIELD. You were building actual promise for a few episodes. You can do better than this.

Spot on. This guys gets bonus points for the "Agent Banana Republic" line, which is what Ward should be referred to from now on. :lol
 
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I agree with what everyone else is saying. This show is sucking hard. Last nights episode was crap. I can't believe that with all the characters in the marvel universe this is the best they could come up with. The characters are boring models without any personality at all. Why don't they let a good comic book writer go crazy on an episode. This show is tanking quickly. Putting Nick Fury in every once and while won't save it either.
 
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I wouldn't say the show sucks by any means. It's just mediocre at this point which is disappointing. I'm still hoping by mid-season it picks up a bit.

We need a 'big bad' for the season at very least. I was never fond of the 'MacGuffin of the week' unless there's a larger mythology (like ALIAS).

Right now there's a few teases here and there of the larger picture, but that's not enough. They need to dive in head first, not tip toe around it.
 
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We need a 'big bad' for the season at very least. I was never fond of the 'MacGuffin of the week' unless there's a larger mythology

I wouldn't even mind a McGuffin of the week if they were interesting McGuffins!
 
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