Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[jjohnson77]

The woman at the hearing said that they had never found anything like what Ripley had described not that they hadn't found life on other worlds. As for Frosts comment in the mess hall the Arcturians could be an alien species or they could be human colonists but since we only have a name who knows what they are.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

The woman at the hearing said that they had never found anything like what Ripley had described not that they hadn't found life on other worlds. As for Frosts comment in the mess hall the Arcturians could be an alien species or they could be human colonists but since we only have a name who knows what they are.

Remembered that after posting..

I suppose they could be aliens, but I find it highly unlikely.
I believe he makes a sex joke about them... Of course I'd love to have sex with an alien, but I doubt most people would..

I've always imagined the Alien universe having hardly any interesting/unique alien encounters other than some random, almost harmless wild animals..

But idunno, could be.

 

[Butters]

The inference was clearly that the Marines had encountered other Alien species before. Make of it what you will.

 

[Butters]

"Samurai Predator". What's next...

Who knows, but there is lots more money to be made.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

The inference was clearly that the Marines had encountered other Alien species before. Make of it what you will.

I'm sure you're right, cluele... I mean, Alien/Predator Expert Butters...

 

[Butters]

More than you are, obviously.

That's 101 stuff.

 

[Rotfish]

Lar'ja, just drop it. Butters here is only trying to act like other boardies here, only he's using the wrong ones as his role models. Chill out both of you, and let's just talk movies.

Personally, I don't even know what an Arcturian is. Could've easily been a sex joke. Maybe it's some weird semi-living thing they have in the future to serve those particular purposes, who knows? They had some weird inventions -- both animate and inanimate -- in the novels and comics for all kinds of things. I don't really think anything during that breakfast conversation was too important, though. The real hint about the Company's awareness of Aliens came when Ripley cornered Burke about knowingly sending that family over to investigate the Derelict ship. Why argue over vague hints that were probably there for laughter when the film actually tells you what the case really is later on?

 

[Butters]

Back on topic. They were a Marine unit that specialized in combat with hostile extra terrestrial life forms. They even had the "Bug Stompers" unit logo on the side of their dropship.

 

[dano669]

Reported.

Watch the extra ALIENS disk that comes with the quadrilogy set. Ron Cobb designed the emblem, the design was along the lines of the squadron patches and nose art applied to WWII and modern aircraft, etc. Art that added a touch of humor and bravado to a serious mission, but with a definite serious meaning behind it all. The Marines from ALIENS were a part of a special unit that dealt with hostile aliens. Deal with it.

Butters you are about 98 percent correct in that statement.

Never is it mentioned that they are a special aliens unit or what ever.

The weyland yutani chock says " and found something never recorded once in over 300 surveyed worlds.
A creature that gestates inside a living human host, these are your words, and has concentrated acid for blood"
Now what she is saying is that they have never encounter anything like the alien. Never does she say that we have never encounted alien life.

When Hudson says this isn't another bug hunt obviously indicates that there squad has encountered some form of extraterrestrial life.

Just because frost doesn't know what a xenomorph is doesn't mean they have not encounted ET's or some other life form.
Xenomorph is the term used to define the alien from the franchise.

The arcturian reference is obviously some sort of life form.alien or biologically engineered by humans is unknown because there is no other mention of them apart from that scene.

The bug stomper emblem was put in as a joke and because Cobb likes ww2 nose art. I don't think it was mention to imply that they've encountered the alien / xenomorph before.
But I do believe they have encountered other forms of life or have at very least gone looking for it.
The "bugs" that Hudson is referring to aren't the xenomorph/alien species.

Now the only person who can say for sure and set the whole story straight is James Cameron and I don't think he's on this forum

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

@Dano

Why are you so convinced that the Arcturians are ETs? Just listen to what Frost says, I just can't imagine that he's talking about aliens, I suppose he could be..but it doesn't make very much sense to me.

As for the bug hunt thing.. Really? I always assumed it was some sort of slang or whatever... Or that they didn't really know what they were after.. You know, because bugs are small..hard to see..hard to find....etc.

 

[dano669]

@Dano

Why are you so convinced that the Arcturians are ETs? Just listen to what Frost says, I just can't imagine that he's talking about aliens, I suppose he could be..but it doesn't make very much sense to me.

As for the bug hunt thing.. Really? I always assumed it was some sort of slang or whatever... Or that they didn't really know what they were after.. You know, because bugs are small..hard to see..hard to find....etc.

Dude I'm not convinced that they're ET's I did also say they could be biologically engineered by humans.
For all we know they could be some mutant group of hermaphrodites that's why it don't matter if they're female or not lol.

But yeah your right it could just be slang as when he refers to a bug hunt. But when when Gorman says there may be a xenomorph involved, frost says excuses me sir a what then hicks says it's a bug hunt.
To me that's saying that they have been up against alien life before or have gone looking for it.

Remember the yutani exec says they havent encountered anything like the xenomorph/alien before she doesn't say they have never found alien life before.
So it is a plausible theory that the marines have encountered other alien life before or at least gone looking for it.

This whole debate just comes down to personal interpretation.
I mean there are three obvious forms of life in this franchise human, xenomorph and space jokey.
I don't see why there wouldn't be other species of alien life in the alien franchise universe.

Who knows maybe Ridley will touch on the arcturians and what they actually are in prometheus.......but I doubt it lol

 

[a-dev]

I would agree with that. I kinda wish there was no such implication because in a way it makes the Xenomorphs of the films less unique. Obviously more lethal than anything the marines would have encountered before but still not the only things out there. Based on the first film alone you don't get any clue as to previous alien encounters - that space jockey signal could easily be the first ever contact as far as the viewer knows and I kinda like that idea. In that scenario I could see the marines primary purpose as dealing with troublesome colonist factions or just as a standby defence corps the rest of the time.

 

[dano669]

I don't think there is anything more bad-ass in the alien universe than the alien/xenomorph.

I think the other alien species that the marines would have encountered
would be very easily dispatched and no real threat.
hence the reason that Hudson isn't to thrilled because its no challenge for the USMC.

Or there is in fact no alien life forms in the galaxy and its just a wild goose chase that they've been on before that's why the squad doesn't seem to be taking the mission very seriously

But yeah I'd rather it be just human, xenomorphs and space jockeys as the only life forms of importance in the franchise

 

[karamazov80]

Stop with the name-calling or infractions will be handed out. Is it really so difficult for people to remain civil when they have disagreements over ____ like this?

 

[greygoose]

Stop with the name-calling or infractions will be handed out. Is it really so difficult for people to remain civil when they have disagreements over ____ like this?

Look what's happening over here in the UK with the riots. Do we really expect better on the internet?

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

But yeah your right it could just be slang as when he refers to a bug hunt. But when when Gorman says there may be a xenomorph involved, frost says excuses me sir a what then hicks says it's a bug hunt.
To me that's saying that they have been up against alien life before or have gone looking for it.

See, I've never looked at it that way.

I always assumed he calls it a bug hunt after hearing the word Xenomorph because like... This is what I imagine him thinking:

"A Xenomorph may be involved? WTF is a Xenomorph? And MAY be involved? They don't know? Ah, screw it. Sounds like a wild goose chase to me.. or a... bug hunt..."

But anyway, if it turns out that the Alien universe is much like Star Wars, and we're out there befriending and trading with various Alien species, I'm gonna be pissed.

 

[dano669]

But anyway, if it turns out that the Alien universe is much like Star Wars, and we're out there befriending and trading with various Alien species, I'm gonna be pissed.

yeah that would suck.

 

[Sabres21768]

It was in either the old Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual or the Aliens Adventure Game book where the Arcturians were listed and described as a non-human species.

I know that doesn't make any difference to some as it's not canon...but there ya go.

 

[Rotfish]

@Dano

Why are you so convinced that the Arcturians are ETs? Just listen to what Frost says, I just can't imagine that he's talking about aliens, I suppose he could be..but it doesn't make very much sense to me.

As for the bug hunt thing.. Really? I always assumed it was some sort of slang or whatever... Or that they didn't really know what they were after.. You know, because bugs are small..hard to see..hard to find....etc.

My thoughts exactly. I felt that Hudson spouting the words "bug hunt" comically foreshadowed what was to happen later in the film. It's like saying you're going on a wild goose chase -- you're not actually chasing a wild goose, so why take Hudson's line seriously word for word? It strikes me more as an expression than anything else.


As for the Xenomorph reference, that could just be a term the higher-ups use to describe Ripley's bad guys. "Xenomorph", roughly translated, means foreign form. Nothing specific to the Aliens we all know and love; the term can be applied to anything, even today. When Gorman warned his men of a possible Xenomorph involvement, that's like saying "we might be dealing with something other than human." That's it. None of the Colonial Marine grunts nor their lieutenants had ever heard of the Aliens' existance. Burke and the Company scientists were the only ones, which became evident when they stumbled upon the facehugger lab (and Ripley's confrontation with Burke prior to his impregnation stunt).

 

[Reaktwon]

The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science.