ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[Red Metal]

ROTF had at least double the amount of robot stuff over the first film, which had very little. I think perhaps you're remembering them incorrectly.

Again robot "stuff". No real plot, a number of nameless drone-like Transformers, and Devy nutz. Just "stuff" without any real substance that people could get behind. Granted TFTM had less robots, but at least most of them had more scope and the Autobots all had real speaking lines instead of just being one-offs like Arcee or Jolt in ROTF. So, when I say that ROTF didn't have enough robots, I mean robots of any value or relavance.

 

[Ra88]

I haven't had them both transformed at the same time so I didn't notice. That is too bad but I'm really impressed with them otherwise. Aside from B's last step to car mode being a serious pain in the A. Very complex for deluxe figures. Optimus' transformation is excellent. Just complicated enough and very original.

Yeah, it's very noticeable. They're both absolutely terrific figures, but it does hurt posing them. It would have been best if Prime was the taller one, even if it would only have been a head taller.

I don't they're supposed to be looked at as in scale with each other. That's like saying TFTM/ROTF deluxe Brawl is too short compared to dexlue Jazz. I'm sure if the initial reaction to the game and figures is favorable, more figures will be released in different class sizes.

It's not really the same as that scenario, though. These two are from the same game, and are meant to be bought by fans of the game and posed together. It seems like a bit of a flaw. Yeah, bigger figures are likely, but they could still at least have Prime be a bit taller then Bumblebee. Ah well, nothing to be done about it, except for creative posing I suppose. At least they both rock, hard.

 

[Valfar]

Soundwave looks pretty awesome, definitely picking this one up to pose with Animated and G1 Soundwave.

Megatron still looks like poo.

 

[Red Metal]

It's not really the same as that scenario, though. These two are from the same game, and are meant to be bought by fans of the game and posed together.

TFTM Brawl and Jazz are from the same movie and are designed to be bought by fans, as well. I don't see your point.

In any case, it's nothing new from Hasbro to botch some scale issues. They start small and if the designs/concepts are liked then they go big. It's been like that since BW...

 

[Spanbauer]

Again robot "stuff". No real plot, a number of nameless drone-like Transformers, and Devy nutz. Just "stuff" without any real substance that people could get behind. Granted TFTM had less robots, but at least most of them had more scope and the Autobots all had real speaking lines instead of just being one-offs like Arcee or Jolt in ROTF. So, when I say that ROTF didn't have enough robots, I mean robots of any value or relavance.

But it had far more robot dialog than the first movie also. You're specifically mentioning background characters - of which the first movie had none because there were only five Autobots total - and describing them as though they represented the primary and secondary characters. If you compare the primary robots of the first film and the primary robots of the second film, there is without question far more robot dialog in the second film. Not just "stuff".

 

[Red Metal]

But it had far more robot dialog than the first movie also. You're specifically mentioning background characters - of which the first movie had none because there were only five Autobots total - and describing them as though they represented the primary and secondary characters. If you compare the primary robots of the first film and the primary robots of the second film, there is without question far more robot dialog in the second film. Not just "stuff".

So? TFTM had five Autobots all with speaking lines. As for primary characters, the Autobots only ever have Prime and BB - they don't really treat anyone else like a major character. ROTF had more than that, some of which were ridiculous like Mudflap/Skids and some never said anything like Arcee/Jolt. Again, random dialog is useless - it is just "stuff" and doesn't make for a good movie. Are you really defending the speaking lines in ROTF? At least TFTM had lines that made sense.

"Give me your face"... yea, that's a cinematic masterpiece...

 

[Dubcustomz]

I'm not. Her elimination the day after shooting began means one of two things:

1. The script will suffer severly from major ongoing rewrites occurring as the film is being shot, or:

2. The script was so bad to begin with that they can eliminate the second most important human character without it making any difference.

Basically, there's no way this can bode well for the film's script. If they'd eliminated her character a year ago it'd be a different story.

Fox was never an important character in either movie. Tell me one thing that her character does that actually drives the plot forward, or plays some sort of important role essential to the plot?
I know she is the "love interest", but really how important was she?
The fact is fox's character never served any purpose what so ever, other than to give the target demographic something to lust over inbetween the action scenes.
Sam and Optimus, Bumblebee and Megatron are the most important characters, if they had got rid of any of those then we'd have something to worry about.
Basically, shes just the token "hot chick" who serves no important purpose to the plot.
Getting rid of her will have no effect what so ever, and adding in a new character to replace her will take all of five seconds to explain since she will be equally as unimportant as fox's character.
You have nothing to worry about my friend. Bay knows how to deliver on the action, and with such a short shooting schedule its a safe bet that we will have more action and robots fighting each other than the last two movies combined.
Might be a little CGI-heavy, but with ILM on board that isnt a bad thing. And with a PROPER script, and no stupid writers strike messing things up we should have a real corker on our hands come june 2011! (or was it july?)

 

[Spanbauer]

Are you really defending the speaking lines in ROTF?

No. If you want to argue that the dialog and robot "stuff" was better in the first movie, I will by no means disagree with you. But it's completely false to claim there was less of it in the second movie, when it in fact had at least twice as much.

 

[YoNoSe]

Fox was never an important character in either movie. Tell me one thing that her character does that actually drives the plot forward, or plays some sort of important role essential to the plot?

I don't know....if the new girl can't yell "SAM!" correctly TF has jumped the shark, FAILED, and other cliches as well!

Honestly I would be surprised if they throw more than 1 sentence of exposition at Fox's absence.

 

[Spanbauer]

Fox was never an important character in either movie. Tell me one thing that her character does that actually drives the plot forward, or plays some sort of important role essential to the plot?

I'm by no means concerned about the loss of Megan Fox, but rather how the loss of her character is handled by the other characters. The first two films continually reinforced that Mikeala is the most important person in Sam's life. Presumably, because Megan Fox quit the film the day after shooting began, they have not properly written Sam's character in a manner that conveys what that loss would be like. So after having to sit through watching their relationship build and grow for the first two films, she'll just be replaced with some new girlfriend and Sam will act like it ain't no thang. This, after she proclaimed no other girl could go through the things she has with him, and proclaiming their love for one another after his near-death experience. Having your lead character be a cold, heartless little ____ has to take a toll on the tone of the film.

 

[Dubcustomz]

I'm by no means concerned about the loss of Megan Fox, but rather how the loss of her character is handled by the other characters. The first two films continually reinforced that Mikeala is the most important person in Sam's life. Presumably, because Megan Fox quit the film the day after shooting began, they have not properly written Sam's character in a manner that conveys what that loss would be like. So after having to sit through watching their relationship build and grow for the first two films, she'll just be replaced with some new girlfriend and Sam will act like it ain't no thang. This, after she proclaimed no other girl could go through the things she has with him, and proclaiming their love for one another after his near-death experience. Having your lead character be a cold, heartless little ____ has to take a toll on the tone of the film.

Meh, it aint gonna bother me in the slightest, since i watch these movies for the action and the robots, not the silly, totally disposeable "love story" between sam and his _____.
And i would be confident to say that most people would feel the same way.

 

[Ra88]

Span has a point that it could end up hurting the movie though. It does suggest that Bay and co don't give a crap about the script or the plot, and look at what we got the last time that happened...

In other news, goddamn Hunt for Decepticons Banzaitron is a freaking sweet repaint.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5591259658#

 

[zerogouki]

Man, that looks awesome! I already have Bludgeon, but I gotta pick up this repaint, too....

 

[zerogouki]

Old news, I know, but I picked up ROTF Blazemaster on clearance this weekend.

Cool little deluxe figure with a pretty difficult transformation. The instructions were useless, had to find a video on yourube to transform him correctly.

They also had an alternate display and storage option for his blades which looks pretty cool.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Nice pic man but I would ease up on the PS layers. The bloom effect takes away some detail from the picture.

 

[bcm77]

With the exception of Agent Simmons they could kill off the entire human cast and I wouldn't care a bit.

If I rewatch the first two nowadays I tend to tune out most of the non robot stuff anyway which doesn't leave much of a movie left but the explosions are nice

Banzaitron's color scheme looks much more suitable for a tank then Bludgeon and as this one is getting a UK release I might well get one.

 

[Shropt]

Anybody here going to Botcon in a few days?

 

[Dubcustomz]

With the exception of Agent Simmons they could kill off the entire human cast and I wouldn't care a bit.

If I rewatch the first two nowadays I tend to tune out most of the non robot stuff anyway which doesn't leave much of a movie left but the explosions are nice

Banzaitron's color scheme looks much more suitable for a tank then Bludgeon and as this one is getting a UK release I might well get one.

Aye, i never liked Bludgeon either, but i think i'll pick up this dude.
I just got a voyager rotf megatron in the post today. Picked him up for £12.99 on amazon and he is a great toy for the money. He suffers from the same issue as voyager prime, exessive back kibble, but considering the other improvements over the leader version i can look past that.
For £12.99 he's awesome, wouldnt pay full price for him though.

This thing about tf3 and mikeala...or however its spelt....i thought the character was still gonna be in the film, just the "actress" will be different?
Not bothered either way as like i said she is such a minor character it wont have any effect on the film, i watch transformers for the robots and explosions, not the female "eye candy", which isnt even my type anyway.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Anybody here going to Botcon in a few days?

Yeah hook us up with some Exclusives!!! Please?

 

[bcm77]

Yeah hook us up with some Exclusives!!! Please?

It's easy to make your own version of this years set for a lot less cash.

Just buy the original releases of those molds, vomit all over them and Voila!