You're talking to someone from farm country so
Crows' time would be better spent talking to food. Like how I talk to my steak whenever I eat it. Burgers too. "mmm, so good", "tasty", "you succulent *******s!", "get into my food hole" .
You're talking to someone from farm country so
Bully or not, they're acting very immature about a serious issue. Not that it bothers me, just lets me know who you can debate and who's not worth your time..
I gave up on devil. No point in debating someone like that.
Well I personally don't eat fruits only and not saying you should substitute meat for watermelons. Though, there are people who are thriving on a frugivorous diet which amazes me still to this day that it's possible. I was just saying that yes, while we do enjoy many bad things and hate good things, there are good things we like as well. And in my case, watermelons are more tasty than meat. Though I wouldn't call meat tasty, it's addictive. But without any spices, herbs, sauces.. well anything made by plants to add flavor to it, it's not that great really.
I use certain dressings that are vegan, but I don't only eat salads. Sometimes I eat the vegan versions of the food I grew up liking. Spaghetti with minced beans or meatless-meatballs, burgers, pizza, hot dogs, falafels (love falafels haha) etc. I used to eat them a lot when I made the transition into vegetarianism and later veganism. We try to make homemade food as much as we can. The vegan cuisine is so much more than just fruits and salads. It's a combination of fruits, nuts, seeds, legumes and vegetables. There so many recipes out there you're sure to find something that you'll like as much as you did with non-vegan foods.
Go against nature? What's so natural about factory farming? And you're basically saying that we are there to fill in a balance of a problem that we caused in the first place.
It wouldn't be great. Killing animals when it's not necessary can never be great. But I would agree that it would be less awful.
He's presenting facts and making rational arguments and you call him tin-foiled vegie? Talk about being close-minded.
....Some are going to eat me, some aren't
It would be great in the sense that people wouldn't take meat for granted. People see a burger and to them it's just like seeing a potato or something. They don't think of all the work behind it. We are like that as people. I love to take everything for granted.
If people had to raise and kill their own cows I doubt they would waste them on burgers like that. Of course people would still be eating meat but it wouldn't be as wasted as it is now. Seriously there is so much waste of meat that goes on, it is ridiculous
Seriously there is so much waste of meat that goes on, it is ridiculous
It's us against the animals; eat or be eaten. Whenever I sink my teeth into a delectable, medium-rare steak, I have remind myself that this animal's descendants (hundreds of thousands of years into the future) may evolve into man-eating minotaurs - hell bent on making human dairy farms, and interbreeding with our women for human-bull hybrids. And who the hell wants that?!
Ooo, Ween's on the menu!
no one is going to change anyone's mind.
Pheew! You're just trolling (or joking as some of you call it) and not being serious. I was about to refute all that nonsense but thanks you saved me some time there. But I wouldn't be surprised if people really thought like that.
Death is not a punishment. It is a prevention of future crimes.
A punishment would need to be something the punished can experience to have a negative outcome. Death ends ALL experience, so the person killed experiences nothing, thus negating punishment. The rack is punishment because it is painful and the person lives to remember it. Execution ends experience so the person can't remember it.
Well, why should we take the blame for being humans, and give the farting, polluting cows a pass? If you believe in evolution, then you should accept that nature engineered us this way - to propagate our species, and to use our god-like intelligence to seek the most efficient means of survival (which also, includes food production). Quite frankly, I enjoy being human, and being at the top of the food chain where I can eat an abundant source of animals that were produced from industrial farming. Thank you, nature!
Just remember, if the roles were reversed, the cows would be eating us.
A Big Mac would cost $50 without government subsidies.we earned the right to be on the TOP of the food chain.
if something happens and we are no longer on top of the food chain.....the human race is on the menu.
i hope i wont see that in my life time.
"its a COOKBOOK!!!!!"
facts? rational arguments? you honestly believe a tin foil nut could produce that? LOLz....i call that one sugar coating bullcrap.
What is the precedent? I think you've been watching too many science fiction movies.It's us against the animals; eat or be eaten. Whenever I sink my teeth into a delectable, medium-rare steak, I have remind myself that this animal's descendants (hundreds of thousands of years into the future) may evolve into man-eating minotaurs - hell bent on making human dairy farms, and interbreeding with our women for human-bull hybrids. And who the hell wants that?!
"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." -- Will Munny, Unforgiven
That's the idea. If that's not a punishment, I don't know what is. Saying death is no penalty at all is strangely devaluing of human life (which is particularly odd in a thread where people are arguing that killing a cow for its meat unfairly penalizes the cow).
If a man's life has value ... taking it away is certainly a punishment.
SnakeDoc
And what's the president for anything you say? The $50 cost of a Big Mac without government subsidies? The un-sustainability of planet earth unless we all go vegan? More slippery slope arguments?
Well wouldn't there be less cows if there was less of a demand to eat them?Cows are destroying the environment because of their abundant amounts of flatulence that contributes to greenhouse gas. In the absence of a natural predator, man is there to fill in the balance - to eat their delicious meat and to make soft, subtle leather from their hide. It's the way how nature intended it . And do you want to go against nature? Well, do ya?
I would argue that life in general has low value for criminals, and hence, their own lives must lack value to THEM as well. That is why death isn't really a punishment to them. Torture is a punishment. Reparations is a punishment. Enslaving criminals is a punishment.
For people who don't value their lives, death row inmates seem to spend a lot of time filing appeals trying to get off death row. In either case, who cares what a criminal values? We don't issue punishments based on the individualized value judgements of the criminal. We punish based on what society values. If a criminal doesn't value money, we still fine 'em. If they don't value freedom, we still imprison 'em. If they don't value their life, we still kill 'em.
It is a strange turnabout when a death penalty supporter is arguing the value of a criminals life, and an anti-death penalty one is arguing that their life is without value. We should take the life of a murderer precisely because it has value.
Do you figure a cow values his life more or less than a criminal values his?
SnakeDoc
i remembered that leia down chick from yesterday....she's raw vegan.
but she eats man's accessory organ..."meat".
Well wouldn't there be less cows if there was less of a demand to eat them?
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