Anyone else annoyed by exposed joints?

[agonistes86]

It seems a lot of people in this thread are talking about two different thing: having joints vs. them being exposed.

I love articulation, that's why I collect HT and don't buy statues. I really dislike exposed joints though, and try to cover them as well as possible. Looking over my collection, there are barely any joints visible, as I mostly have fully clothed figures. The only one with exposed arms is Aliens Hudson, which I recently upgraded to a Comedian body to make it look as good as possible.
If I had to choose between exposed joints and no articulation (or rotting rubber etc.), I'd take the exposed joints any day, because poseability is one of the most important aspects of figures to me. That doesn't mean I like exposed joints though, they are just a necessary evil I have to live with.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

Nope .

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

It seems a lot of people in this thread are talking about two different thing: having joints vs. them being exposed.

I love articulation, that's why I collect HT and don't buy statues. I really dislike exposed joints though, and try to cover them as well as possible. Looking over my collection, there are barely any joints visible, as I mostly have fully clothed figures. The only one with exposed arms is Aliens Hudson, which I recently upgraded to a Comedian body to make it look as good as possible.
If I had to choose between exposed joints and no articulation (or rotting rubber etc.), I'd take the exposed joints any day, because poseability is one of the most important aspects of figures to me. That doesn't mean I like exposed joints though, they are just a necessary evil I have to live with.

 

[MANDO]

The new style Wolverine/Comedian (and so on) body is the best thing to happen to HT. The rubber muscle bodies sucked. 1) They're orange. 2) You can't do anything w/ them. 3)They potentially rot. 4) They're fragile as hell.


What it comes down to is what do you hate more? Exposed joints or not being to pose your toys?

 

[lerath666]

Or a figure that Lasts for a long time, or one that falls apart/breaks in under 5 years?

 

[Marcus Wright]

I wonder if one day they will advance enough to make bodies with seemless joints which are perfectly articulated.
Can't be that far away though.

 

[kaidoy021]

Joints don't bother me at all. The sacrifice you must make for articulation.

 

[Ex-Parrot]

Articulation is never a big priority for me, it's all about the aesthetic in my collecting habits, so ugly (to me) exposed joints in a piece will definitely put me off purchasing something. It just takes away from the visual impact I'm seeking, simple as that.

That's why I only tend to buy the fully clothed characters made by the likes of Hot Toys and Enterbay. I don't have an issue with articulation, I just don't want to see it, or it kinda spoils the illusion and artistry a bit to me.

Every collector has their quirks, that just happens to be one of mine.

 

[Darklord Dave]

With the cross over between figure collectors and statue collectors I can can see this may be an issue more and more. But old school figure collectors such as myself are incredulous that people might have a problem with some joints, especially on a torso PR arm sculpted for a specific figure. SSC and eventually HT will address this I'm sure with switch out parts rather than joints. It's only a matter of time as figures costs rise, and collectors get more picky.

 

[batfan08]

It kind of bugs me. I can deal with it, but I do think that it diminishes the visual aesthetic to a certain extent.

 

[devilof76]

Then you're applying an esthetic to it that ignores the reality of the situation. An action figure has joints. A statue does not. Don't expect a figure to behave like a statue and there will be no room for disappointment when one fails to be the other.

 

[lerath666]

With the cross over between figure collectors and statue collectors I can can see this may be an issue more and more. But old school figure collectors such as myself are incredulous that people might have a problem with some joints, especially on a torso PR arm sculpted for a specific figure. SSC and eventually HT will address this I'm sure with switch out parts rather than joints. It's only a matter of time as figures costs rise, and collectors get more picky.

Swap out parts instead of articulation? I REALLY hope you're wrong dave. Something like that would have me ( and i suspect quite a few others) Dropping this hobby. I like being creative with my posing, instead of being restricted to just a few options. some of the best poses are ones that the character in question might NEVER have taken, but are amusing, or fascinating.

For me, until they make a seamless body with hidden joints that is JUST as poseable as a standard truetype, or medicom body ( or perhaps even MORE poseable), but not fragile, I'll take exposed joints any day.

Drop the articulation any more than Hot toys already has with the current muscle body that thor/wolverine have, and I'm just going to stick to Figma, revoltech, and D-arts. Many of which I already Pass on to get 1/6th scale figures instead.

 

[devilof76]

It wouldn't hurt my feelings to get more Figma stuff.

 

[CloudN]

I'm fine with it. It's a toy after all, it's suppose to have joints to make the toy more posable.
The way I see it, it's figures or statues. I don't like rubber coated bodies that much because there's no need to hide the joints. And the fact that rubber coated bodies hinder articulation.

 

[batfan08]

Then you're applying an esthetic to it that ignores the reality of the situation. An action figure has joints. A statue does not. Don't expect a figure to behave like a statue and there will be no room for disappointment when one fails to be the other.

Alright, let's see: detailed, realistic head sculpts with detailed, realistic paint apps, as well as tailored fabric clothing. These things are sold because of their realistic aesthetics, I just find that giant balls in between the hands and forearms of an otherwise extremely realistic figure are a little distracting and out of place. I'm not saying I have some big problem with it, I just think that in some cases, it, again, diminishes the visual aesthetic and realism of these figures.

 

[lerath666]

Then stick to equally detailed statues and Premium format figures.
I don't mean for that to sound rude, but imagine this for a moment. Like dave said, more and more statue collectors are crossing over to get 1/6th figures as well. while this is great as it means that 1/6th figures are selling better, and thus, more get made. statue collectors are nitpicky about seams and articulation

The Hot Toys predators are an excellent example of the casualties of this crossing over. The last pred I purchased was the P1. and unless they go back to a body as articulated as it came on, I'll never get another one.
and I'm not the only one that feels that way.

so lets imagine instead if statues starting coming with 3-4 different arms, heads and upper torsoes. but the spaces between the segments for the swappable parts are Always VERY visible. there is no way around the visability, and it's the ONLY way that the statues come now.

kinda sucks, right?

Well.. that's where we're comming from.

These are action figures. they need 38- 40 joints for maximum pose-ability. Imagine how lame spider-man would h have been if they had used a muscle body under his suit to make him look more muscular under the spandex?

I do get where you guys are coming from with wanting the joints to not be seen as well. but at the same time, it's defeating the purpose of what it is.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

Then stick to equally detailed statues and Premium format figures.
I don't mean for that to sound rude, but imagine this for a moment. Like dave said, more and more statue collectors are crossing over to get 1/6th figures as well. while this is great as it means that 1/6th figures are selling better, and thus, more get made. statue collectors are nitpicky about seams and articulation

The Hot Toys predators are an excellent example of the casualties of this crossing over. The last pred I purchased was the P1. and unless they go back to a body as articulated as it came on, I'll never get another one.
and I'm not the only one that feels that way.

so lets imagine instead if statues starting coming with 3-4 different arms, heads and upper torsoes. but the spaces between the segments for the swappable parts are Always VERY visible. there is no way around the visability, and it's the ONLY way that the statues come now.

kinda sucks, right?

Well.. that's where we're comming from.

These are action figures. they need 38- 40 joints for maximum pose-ability. Imagine how lame spider-man would h have been if they had used a muscle body under his suit to make him look more muscular under the spandex?

I do get where you guys are coming from with wanting the joints to not be seen as well. but at the same time, it's defeating the purpose of what it is.

I've got no problems with the true body joints as long as it's hidden under a suit or clothing. I love posing them so that's why I choose these 1/6 over statues. I just think even the figures with hidden/rubber joints are already articulated well. I've got the classic predator on preorder so I'll definitely test its articulation, but my Leonidas can pull off any pose I'd want. I guess I want 2 things from them. Be able to have me place them in a ton of poses and to be jaw dropping in aesthetics/realism. Like on the Jake Sully... I finally placed a preorder on him despite wondering why his feet have to be articulated. I don't think I've seen this articulation elsewhere and this uniqueness definitely draws attention.

 

[lerath666]

do you pose leonidias alot?
Because if you do, you'll see why the bodies like he has are not something that many of us here are big fans of.