Avatar: The Way of Water

[Wor-Gar]

I'm expecting to see Scorsby return with a mechanical arm.

 

[jye4ever]

I just hope the plot takes a complete left turn and giant Avatar kaiju arrive with clone soldier ninja marines.

 

[Wor-Gar]

The Fire People are coming! Watch out! It's gonna be.... HOT!

 

[jye4ever]

Maybe Cameron will reveal that Avatar are robots hence the energy connection.

 

[loki2371]

Maybe Cameron will reveal that Avatar are robots hence the energy connection.

Maybe they Na'vi are already Avatars/genetically modified beings of another race that already conquered Pandora!!!!

Mind blown...


Subverting expectations with a twist... "Bet you didn't see that one coming"...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe they Na'vi are already Avatars/genetically modified beings of another race that already conquered Pandora!!!!

I like that.

Further mind blown:

That alien race is... SkyNet!

 

[Khev]

I'm expecting to see Scorsby return with a mechanical arm.

That might allow him to still receive the super satisyfing death that jye was hoping for. Or maybe he'll come back as a Fire Na'vi.

And I assume the avatar process works both ways? Hopefully we find out that they've been growing a human body for Neytiri all this time to give Cameron an excuse to have Saldana herself running around topless for an entire movie...

 

[Mandible]

So at the age of twelve you vividly remember going to see all those amazing movies! Yet, now you have to spend a stupid amount of money to take your family to go see a movie, that, as an adult, you feel isn’t anything but pretty colors and lights splashed on a screen.

If you bothered to take your kids to Avatar at the age of twelve or younger they would probably think it’s the coolest thing they’d ever seen in their entire lives. They don’t have bias like an adult. Kids haven’t decided those particulars yet.

You’re not vividly remembering those awesome films from back in the day you’re judging them from your adult mind. You think you remember how it was sitting in the theater watching Bladerunner thinking it’s the most amazing movie but at 12 it was above your head. You’re not twelve anymore and you’re not thinking with “your monkey brain” you’ve grown into a judgmental adult.

Actually... my 13 and 18 year olds don't have an ounce of interest in seeing it - and only 1 of the 18 year old's friends have seen it. The 18 year old loves Marvel movies, so one would expect it would be right up her alley, but she doesn't care about it.
So, your 'theory" about my kids is out the window.

And as for your last paragraph...

You're stating things there like you know me (and my family)? Telling me about my own life experiences and memories?

Obviously you've got your back up because I stated previously that your sentence about anyone who disliked this film is basically a deluded fool who thinks they're some kind of "intellectual" (or some **** like that), as being ridiculous.

But here, once again, you're standing on your high-horse and arrogantly (and ignorantly) spewing **** directly about me and my family?

If you liked the film - that's great - but to act like you have the slightest clue about anybody else, their likes, dislikes, experiences, etc... you are one presumptuous mother******.

 

[choombaz]

Kubrick was 70 when he died and never lost his balls.
Eastwood was 84 when he did American Sniper.

Plenty of directors get to 70 (and older) and don't turn into apologetic soft****s.

Yeah but Kubrick and Eastwood never ever had the budget and audience size that JC has got to. And they never wanted it either. That completely changes your perspective. Plus those filmmakers are independent arthouse filmmakers. They never made films with robots or aliens.

 

[jaztermareal]

Hopefully we find out that they've been growing a human body for Neytiri all this time to give Cameron an excuse to have Saldana herself running around topless for an entire movie...

Now that I would pay to see. For science.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Modern Cameron is almost identical to the guy who wrote the three movies listed above.

Sure fatherhood changes you, which AWOW goes out of its way to make a central theme, but otherwise he's still a blatherer (he just blathers about slightly different things) and the action in his films is still more badass than pretty much anything put on screen--from any era.

The source of my (minimal) angst is not the familial theme, which actually runs through all if his films. His characters tend to be tightly connected and i get that. Some of them are even children.

My annoyance stems from stuff like telling us that pregnant women are unstoppable forces of martial badassitude (SURE THEY ARE) and the testosterone stuff, which I wanna see how you get those precious kiddos without testosterone, even. Ha.

His current mindset flies in the face of reality, and it has become super preachy. People complain about SW having an agenda, but how is this any different?

 

[Mandible]

Yeah but Kubrick and Eastwood never ever had the budget and audience size that JC has got to. And they never wanted it either. That completely changes your perspective. Plus those filmmakers are independent arthouse filmmakers. They never made films with robots or aliens.

I don't get where you're coming from? Terminator 1 was a $6M independent film when it came out. Regardless, I'm not talking about his work, I'm talking about Cameron, the person (who's balls have obviously evaporated).

I'm sure when Tarantino hits 70 he's not going to all of a sudden be making films that don't challenge the audience. And again, there'd be plenty of other director's at 70 (or older) that don't want to apologize for their "past sins."

To me, Cameron has become a clown (not his work), an apologist woke ******, who is bending the knee to who? Some social media mob? He should be proud of his previous films, and if people don't like them, he should be comfortable with that.

It's art, it's all subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Unless he'd done some vile kiddie ****, there's not much to apologize for.

 

[jye4ever]

I don't get where you're coming from? Terminator 1 was a $6M independent film when it came out. Regardless, I'm not talking about his work, I'm talking about Cameron, the person (who's balls have obviously evaporated).

I'm sure when Tarantino hits 70 he's not going to all of a sudden be making films that don't challenge the audience. And again, there'd be plenty of other director's at 70 (or older) that don't want to apologize for their "past sins."

To me, Cameron has become a clown (not his work), an apologist woke ******, who is bending the knee to who? Some social media mob? He should be proud of his previous films, and if people don't like them, he should be comfortable with that.

It's art, it's all subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Unless he'd done some vile kiddie ****, there's not much to apologize for.

As a portugese-arab I despise that Cameron is ashamed and apologetic about having arab terrorist in True Lies so much so that he locked the movie in his vault.

I don’t need my feelings protected what I need is a 4K restoration of a great action comedy movie!

Guess what James there are good and bad people of every race in every culture it’s that simple!

Every single culture in the history of humanity has in one way or another caused harm to each other in the same way that every single culture in the history of humanity has done good for each other therefore It is only NORMAL to display both sides in storytelling.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Kang's black... and he's bad. What's that saying?

 

[choombaz]

I don't get where you're coming from? Terminator 1 was a $6M independent film when it came out. Regardless, I'm not talking about his work, I'm talking about Cameron, the person (who's balls have obviously evaporated).

I'm sure when Tarantino hits 70 he's not going to all of a sudden be making films that don't challenge the audience. And again, there'd be plenty of other director's at 70 (or older) that don't want to apologize for their "past sins."

To me, Cameron has become a clown (not his work), an apologist woke ******, who is bending the knee to who? Some social media mob? He should be proud of his previous films, and if people don't like them, he should be comfortable with that.

It's art, it's all subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Unless he'd done some vile kiddie ****, there's not much to apologize for.

Ahh ok sorry I didn’t realise you were talking about what he said in public. Like I’ve said before, not interested in anything he has to say, I just love his films. But go and watch interviews with him around T1 and Aliens, he was a w****r even back then.

 

[jye4ever]

Kang's black... and he's bad. What's that saying?

Studios refuse to show crime (theft, murder, gangs) being committed by young black males in a superhero movie I could be wrong and missed a scene but from what I remember the 2 men stealing the tv in She-Hulk were both white, Spiderman always webs a white criminal, Phoenix Joker beat up by whites in the subway, and in The Batman it was the whites coercing a black kid into committing crime in the subway.

Again I could be wrong and missed a scene but it’s as if the studios feel it’s only ok to show crime being committed only by whites it’s bizarre.

Do whites commit crimes HELL YEAH they DO ALOT from white collar to blue collar BUT SO DOES EVERY HUMAN GROUP!

But we’re only going to show one group of people doing it yeah so realistic

 

[Wor-Gar]

I agree with you. And its very easy: just turn on your local news and see whose committing crimes.

 

[jye4ever]

I agree with you. And its very easy: just turn on your local news and see whose committing crimes.

Well my point is everyone is committing crimes Wor-Gar not just young blacks but studios are absolutely frightened to show everyone committing crimes they’re afraid to show reality they’re only comfortable showing whites committing street level crimes especially in superhero movies.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Well my point is everyone is committing crimes Wor-Gar not just young blacks but studios are absolutely frightened to show everyone committing crimes they’re afraid to show reality they’re only comfortable showing whites committing street level crimes especially in superhero movies.

I agreed with you.

 

[Dave_W]

Quotas shouldn't matter, just show the best street crime, it doesn't matter who's committing it.