The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Ha! My dad did the same once..... But I do drink every now and then, because it's fun, and because **** midterms.
Aaaaanyway, so, Avengers huh?
Yeah...how about that Ultron guy?!
Ha! My dad did the same once..... But I do drink every now and then, because it's fun, and because **** midterms.
Aaaaanyway, so, Avengers huh?
Like I said, they might as well ban alcohol too...it's just as bad, if not worse, yet people don't mind how alcohol is glorified on tv, movies, and advertising It's hypocritical, imo.
It's not about the cigarettes, it's the idea of censorship or banning something that bothers me, just because there are some weak minded people out there that will do anything that they see in a movie, apparently Get rid of everything that can be a bad influence then, like violence and fighting...teens might do that too if they see it in a movie.
Like I said, they might as well ban alcohol too...it's just as bad, if not worse, yet people don't mind how alcohol is glorified on tv, movies, and advertising It's hypocritical, imo.
It's not about the cigarettes, it's the idea of censorship or banning something that bothers me, just because there are some weak minded people out there that will do anything that they see in a movie, apparently Get rid of everything that can be a bad influence then, like violence and fighting...teens might do that too if they see it in a movie.
My wife is a nurse and she says a majority of the nurses she works with smoke. I never understood how those in the medical field could smoke after treating those who smoke and see the damage it causes.
You aren't focusing on the fact that these films are targeted, to a large measure, to children and young adolescents. Those who can't be blamed for falling into bad habits at an early age because they aren't developmentally able to make "wise" decisions, and mommy and daddy aren't always going to be lurking around the corner when opportunities arise. The chemically enhanced tobacco sold in cigarettes is incredibly addictive. If a child just does it a few times that addiction can start taking root, and if they see it glorified by role models or in the "cool" movies and TV shows they are exposed to, then they're going to be more likely to start doing it. It's not appropriate to refer to children in these situations as "weak minded." If these were films truly targeted only to adults, then of course it would be a different concern. But not long ago Joe Camel was mascot for a cigarette company. They know what it means for their bottom line to start getting customers early. Children are impressionable.Like I said, they might as well ban alcohol too...it's just as bad, if not worse, yet people don't mind how alcohol is glorified on tv, movies, and advertising It's hypocritical, imo.
It's not about the cigarettes, it's the idea of censorship or banning something that bothers me, just because there are some weak minded people out there that will do anything that they see in a movie, apparently Get rid of everything that can be a bad influence then, like violence and fighting...teens might do that too if they see it in a movie.
You aren't focusing on the fact that these films are targeted, to a large measure, to children and young adolescents. Those who can't be blamed for falling into bad habits at an early age because they aren't developmentally able to make "wise" decisions, and mommy and daddy aren't always going to be lurking around the corner when opportunities arise. The chemically enhanced tobacco sold in cigarettes is incredibly addictive. If a child just does it a few times that addiction can start taking root, and if they see it glorified by role models or in the "cool" movies and TV shows they are exposed to, then they're going to be more likely to start doing it. It's not appropriate to refer to children in these situations as "weak minded." If these were films truly targeted only to adults, then of course it would be a different concern. But not long ago Joe Camel was mascot for a cigarette company. They know what it means for their bottom line to start getting customers early. Children are impressionable.
I don't think these films should glorify alcohol use, either, though the use of alcohol in the comics by Iron Man was used to showcase its negative impact, which we got to some extent in Iron Man 2.
The reason we saw so much more of this in media we were exposed to as kids was because the negative effects of tobacco use (and alcohol use when you're talking about neurological and physiological damage) wasn't as well understood, we didn't know all the horrible things being done behind closed doors to target kids and enhance the addictive qualities of tobacco, and advocates who pushed for more restrictions were silenced by the powerful industry lobbies. But this has changed for the better.
Like Steve says, it doesn't really add anything to the story, particularly in a film aimed toward children, and the potential impacts are very negative, so there's no reason to go there, and Marvel/Disney should be applauded for their move. If your argument is that the period films/shows aren't "realistic" enough, for life in the 1940s-'70s or whatever, remember that these are superhero movies. For kids. Not Mad Men.
As for violence, that's not something that will cause significant and potentially permanent changes in the neurological pathways of children on the order of an addictive chemical specifically designed in a lab to do that. If a kid acts out a few times, a parent could reign it in and nip it in the bud. So, it's not really a good analogy.
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The hypocrisy, don't smoke kids, but go ahead and punch someone in the face....
Wait, so, it's only ok to show that stuff if it shows how people get rekt by it?
I don't know about you, I don't smoke and don't like it, but Arnold sure looked cool smoking his cigar in Predator
Ha!
Thank god Wolverine isn't at Marvel, I've said it before, they would absolutely neuter him.
Oh I get you, it's all about the rating, then it's fine by me.Predator is rated R. Disney said only movies rated PG-13 and below will not show smoking. i dont know any rated R disney movies but im sure they own other studios who can make R-rated movies.
To be fair, Fox's Wolverine is also pretty tamed, I mean, Wolvie's a guy who once stab himself almost disemboweling himselfMarvel Studios would not neuter Wolverine. Winter Soldier is a relentless killing machine and Cap threw a guy into spinning propeller blades.
Surprised no one has mentioned Coulsonchestgate yet!
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