Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[CallMeTheDoctor]

Well, maybe we get She-Hulk, and he goes all Old Man Logan, and that's how he gets kids.

 

[PopCultKid]

I'm in the camp that most things seemingly wrong with this movie melt away more and more with each watch. I'm 5 times in and I really do think it gets better every time. I think that's the effect it has on most people who liked it from the first time, and those who didn't seemed to feel oppositely; some said they didn't like it much at first and even less the second time.

I think Ultron is a more complex character and just a better villain overall than he gets credit for. He has great lines that I feel get better each time, as does most of the dialogue in the movie. I'm more than fine with the humor too. This is the first movie that IMO kept the majority of jokes at a teenage+ level, and nothing is really too juvenile. I actually like them busting on Cap about the "language" thing. It gives you sense that this probably isn't the first time that they gang up on him and break chops for being square. The only joke that gets under my skin a little is the "lose power on the swing" line, like it's some silly tennis/racquetball reference; but even that's not that bad

I still love Stark even though I don't like the road he's going down. He's become bent on protecting the world to a fault. I like the direction they're taking him in though because I like heros with flaws. Makes them more interesting. I'm interested in seeing who's philosophy I side with in Civil War, because Cap & Stark are my two favorite. Complete opposite ends of the spectrum yet I can relate to and appreciate both. I guess that's the way Civil War will be set up though; where the audience will be conflicted with the pros and cons of both side's philosophy.

I still don't get why they were all boo hooey about it and feeling like monsters because of the no kids thing. When my wife and I got married we had like a two second conversation about how if it turned out one of us couldn't reproduce then we'd adopt. It's...kind of a common thing.

Luckily it turned out to not be an issue.

I think them feeling that they're monsters had nothing to do with the kids situation, and everything to do with almost everything else about them

 

[Khev]

I think them feeling that they're monsters had nothing to do with the kids situation, and everything to do with almost everything else about them

No I'm pretty sure Banner himself said, "The world saw the Hulk, the REAL Hulk, the one who can't have kids."

 

[jye4ever]

I'm in the camp that most things seemingly wrong with this movie melt away more and more with each watch. I'm 5 times in and I really do think it gets better every time. I think that's the effect it has on most people who liked it from the first time, and those who didn't seemed to feel oppositely; some said they didn't like it much at first and even less the second time.

I think Ultron is a more complex character and just a better villain overall than he gets credit for. He has great lines that I feel get better each time, as does most of the dialogue in the movie. I'm more than fine with the humor too. This is the first movie that IMO kept the majority of jokes at a teenage+ level, and nothing is really too juvenile. I actually like them busting on Cap about the "language" thing. It gives you sense that this probably isn't the first time that they gang up on him and break chops for being square. The only joke that gets under my skin a little is the "lose power on the swing" line, like it's some silly tennis/racquetball reference; but even that's not that bad

I still love Stark even though I don't like the road he's going down. He's become bent on protecting the world to a fault. I like the direction they're taking him in though because I like heros with flaws. Makes them more interesting. I'm interested in seeing who's philosophy I side with in Civil War, because Cap & Stark are my two favorite. Complete opposite ends of the spectrum yet I can relate to and appreciate both. I guess that's the way Civil War will be set up though; where the audience will be conflicted with the pros and cons of both side's philosophy.

Good read.

No I'm pretty sure Banner himself said, "The world saw the Hulk, the REAL Hulk, the one who can't have kids."

Gamma Nuts!

 

[Khev]

Even if everything sucks from here on out AoU + FR = Best Summer for Movies in a Long Time.

 

[jye4ever]

TWS single handily made that summer a big winner.

 

[Khev]

TWS single handily made that summer a big winner.

Indeed!

 

[spindrift]

I liked it, 'twas alright. My dubbed version was more fun though to be honest.


Age of Ultron seemed pretty by the numbers. I didn't hate it, I didn't love it. I thought that running joke gag with Cap and the "language" was really lame and should have died after the first scene. If I were a kid seeing these characters for the first time, I'd think Rogers was a joke after that. There were a lot of gags that fell flat for me, though I did love Rhodey trying to tell his War Machine story. Whendon's usualy humor just ain't doing it for me anymore, Ultron actually annoyed the hell out of me. His Stark-liners and quips rubbed me the wrong way. It doesn't help that I'm starting to really despise Stark, but having the main villain spew the same crap, even when in danger of getting his *** kicked, bugged me.

The action sequences were good for the most part. I really loved Scarlet and Quicksilver. I liked how Cap took a liking to them and mentioned how they were science experiments used for war purposes just like him. Any time the movie played it serious, without the jokes I was engaged. Hated the Black Widow and Hulk thing though, that felt forced. I had no idea what they were talking about in the nursery room the first time I saw it. Then when I realized she was "fixed", I was thinking, "her ****ing womb is so polluted Hulk can't even have a ****ing babby with her".

I definitely liked the first Avengers better. There was a genuine sense of awe and excitement that summer, whereas this just lacked the same punch. It wasn't bad, I'm just sick of their schitick. I think if this had been more focused without all the subplots (and stupid Crystal/Thanos) references, it would have been a leaner, better story. Still enjoyable though. Cap, Thor and the twins were by far my favorite parts. I also liked the nightmare sequences and Quicksilver's sacrifice. Hawkeye was better than he was in the first (though the family thing felt cheesy as ****). I'm really sick of Tony Stark though, when he got the Vision coffin again and had his whole "we're monsters speech", I just wanted him to get off the screen. I've never gone from loving a character (Iron Man 1-3, Avengers), to utterly despising one so quickly. Tony Stark and his character gimmick and circular-going nowhere arc needs to go. Like I said in the Civil War thread, I hope Cap puts Tony in his pace.





Mad Max rules for me so far, that's been my favorite. Avengers 2 was mediocre in comparison.

Right on! FR a brilliant film- so rare these days
I agree with you on every pount about AoU- enjoyable but unmemorable and excitement gone soon after you leave the theatre.
TWS had FAR more compelling and exciting action even though you knew Cap and BW will be fine..that's a great thing to pull off...

 

[PopCultKid]

No I'm pretty sure Banner himself said, "The world saw the Hulk, the REAL Hulk, the one who can't have kids."

 

[jye4ever]

I remember lots of parts from AOU.

It took only 2 viewings for all of its awesomeness to fully soak in.

 

[PopCultKid]

I've been staying out of that thread but great to hear FR seems to be getting universal thumbs up.

Ultron can get a rest and I'll wear out FR road for a while. Gotta get to Ex Machina, Poltergiest, Tommorowland. Maybe even Kingsmen

 

[PopCultKid]

I remember lots of parts from AOU.

It took only 2 viewings for all of its awesomeness to fully soak in.

Werd. Same here.

Lots of mixed reviews on this one. Whole lotta love/dislike going on

 

[jye4ever]

KM was loads of fun although the ending was anticlimatic for me because I was expecting

Spoiler

a full on bad *** British Secret Service and military assault on the complex, something that is sorely lacking in a Bond movie, you know, dudes rappelling in their Union Jack costumes

 

[DiFabio]

Uhh, KM?


Edit:

Oh, Kingsmen (read Kid's post). Jeez Jye.

 

[LexiKon318]

Kingsman

 

[Theokan]

Age of Ultron seemed pretty by the numbers. I didn't hate it, I didn't love it. I thought that running joke gag with Cap and the "language" was really lame and should have died after the first scene. If I were a kid seeing these characters for the first time, I'd think Rogers was a joke after that. There were a lot of gags that fell flat for me, though I did love Rhodey trying to tell his War Machine story. Whendon's usualy humor just ain't doing it for me anymore, Ultron actually annoyed the hell out of me. His Stark-liners and quips rubbed me the wrong way. It doesn't help that I'm starting to really despise Stark, but having the main villain spew the same crap, even when in danger of getting his *** kicked, bugged me.

The action sequences were good for the most part. I really loved Scarlet and Quicksilver. I liked how Cap took a liking to them and mentioned how they were science experiments used for war purposes just like him. Any time the movie played it serious, without the jokes I was engaged. Hated the Black Widow and Hulk thing though, that felt forced. I had no idea what they were talking about in the nursery room the first time I saw it. Then when I realized she was "fixed", I was thinking, "her ****ing womb is so polluted Hulk can't even have a ****ing babby with her".

I definitely liked the first Avengers better. There was a genuine sense of awe and excitement that summer, whereas this just lacked the same punch. It wasn't bad, I'm just sick of their schitick. I think if this had been more focused without all the subplots (and stupid Crystal/Thanos) references, it would have been a leaner, better story. Still enjoyable though. Cap, Thor and the twins were by far my favorite parts. I also liked the nightmare sequences and Quicksilver's sacrifice. Hawkeye was better than he was in the first (though the family thing felt cheesy as ****). I'm really sick of Tony Stark though, when he got the Vision coffin again and had his whole "we're monsters speech", I just wanted him to get off the screen. I've never gone from loving a character (Iron Man 1-3, Avengers), to utterly despising one so quickly. Tony Stark and his character gimmick and circular-going nowhere arc needs to go. Like I said in the Civil War thread, I hope Cap puts Tony in his pace.

I felt the Cap jokes were pretty much Brian Michael Bendis' writing taken right out of the comics. There were multiple occasions in the comics where Cap would say something old fashioned and Spidey would poke fun of it annoyingly, and the whole team would keep bringing it up and won't let it go, it's classic Bendis banters. But then not all comicbook readers liked Bendis' banters in the first place so I guess it could annoy some people, personally I think it brings out each person's character.

The thing is, when the jokes become self aware it stops viewers from making those same jokes, and Cap is the biggest victim since his first movie, IMO it's a good move for them to make his character more self aware because those jokes are coming his way no matter how they write him, it's better that the jokes are part of the story rather then coming from the audience during serious scenes. Cap thinks and talks like an old grandpa from WWII with a body of a 20 year old, I really hope they never take that away from his character, he is not that generic superhero that a lot of people think he is.

As for Tony Stark, if they are going down the Civil War road, he was always going to become less likeable, actually it would really bother me if Tony Stark is still a likeable character in Civil War, that wont be accurate to the comics, it's a character transition that's happening very slowly ever since the beginning. I like the fact that he does fall from grace, that's the Tony we'll see in the Civil War arch, in the Infinity arch we'll see the more heroic Tony come back again. I'd say if you liked Tony Stark in phase 1 and hate him in phase 3 then the movie makers did their job correctly.

I felt Avengers 1 was more of a straight forward good vs evil type story, where as Avengers 2 had more grey areas, where the heroes are the ones at fault for doing the wrong things for the right reason (Tony, Bruce, Wanda, even Ultron). I guess Avengers 1 was more silver age and Avengers 2 was more modern age.

and like everyone else, I also liked Avengers 2 a whole lot more after the first viewing, something about getting pass that first critical/ judgmental mentality and getting to really know the movie after having already seen it once.

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[jye4ever]

Holy crap that's a great post dude/dudette.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Cap thinks and talks like an old grandpa from WWII with a body of a 20 year old, I really hope they never take that away from his character, he is everything but generic.

I get that CA is a boy scout, but I never thought that had anything to do with him being from a different era. That's just the kind of guy he is. The "language" joke, and Capt being a goody two shoes, has very little to do with him growing up in the 1920's, imo.

 

[Theokan]

I get that CA is a boy scout, but I never thought that had anything to do with him being from a different era. That's just the kind of guy he is. The "language" joke, and Capt being a goody two shoes, has very little to do with him growing up in the 1920's, imo.

Ya I guess you're right, people are not all like that during the 1920's and it comes mostly from his own character, although the movies do try to play the "old fashioned" card a lot and in the modern era they sort of blend the two facts together (he's from 1920s and he's a goody-two-shoe), it's technically incorrect but works for me story wise.


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[jye4ever]

This /\

I feel the same way, they combine it for us to view it that way exactly!

Works for me.

I'll see if the language joke works on me tomorrow.