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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

It's definitely a given but that's no excuse for how poorly that whole scene was handled. Literally out of no where with no context right after all the rules are being shoved down your throat ( the time shifting , the reality bending , ) some humor thrown in and then flashing to a certain characters seemingly sad and painful death. But in reality the audience is wondering if this is suppose to have any weight or not. I was following along pretty well up until that point.
Also, the pace was bad man, it was fast but it wasted time on filler when they could've used it to punctuate and frame important moments better.

I have to admit it was agile and economic most of the time, but it was wasteful on occasions.

I suppose the pace was never gonna be great having this kind of plot and this amount of characters, it was well done for that amount of work.
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

IW comic was HUGE is scope. I thought this movie did a great job of conveying that scope, with it's own spin. Hard to have the 'throw everything in including the kitchen sink' and make it work. I thought it was great.

There were a few flawed moments, but IW delivered for me, big time.
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I mean seriously. What other movie featured so many heroes and took the balls to actually focus on the villain. Thanos wrecked shiz up. Since marvel heavily focusses on kids alsoz i predict a lot will be crying after this movie lol


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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Try watching the movie with someone who doesn't already know the story. My sister and her husband loved it. Not everyone knows the comics or has even watched all of the Marvel movies. Heck I know what's coming and still liked it a lot. Going to see it again in imax tomorrow.
Same here. I enjoyed it. Rarely i would pick up a random comic book from the library.

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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I avoided this thread like the plague for last week. So if someone gets 'spoiled'......well duh.
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Ok here goes. It’s rather long sorry.

Let me get the major problems out of the way first because this is what ultimately almost crippled the movie for me.


Marvel just doesn’t have the balls to even kill characters who’s acting contracts are expiring lol


The lame disintegrating deaths on characters who have movies coming up in the next phase was just silly, zero stakes.


Snapping a finger quick disintegration death is fine for some it is the Infinity Gauntlet afterall but ONLY if you also included a face to face beat down death that would be brutal and have impact but NOPE! FAIL FAIL FAIL!


Russos’s said Hawkeye was on an important mission. So important it was a throw away line that didn’t sound important at all. I’m now fully convinced that Renner had a fallout with Marvel and how about Antman’s absence his upcoming battle with Ghost is going to seem silly after not helping with saving the earth, very bizarre happenings going on there.


I knew right after the Doctor Strange movie that the time stone was going to hurt IW for me maybe even almost ruin it. I said almost because thankfully there were plenty of positives to help tip the scale.


So Thanos can use it to get what he wants but not DS who used it so effectively in his own movie! Did I miss an explanation why DS couldn’t use it but Thanos could? Having the power to reverse time was lame in STM and it remains cinematically lame 40 years later, just lazy story telling.


My wife is stronger than Drax what a waste of a character he has been in the MCU.


Black Panther wasn’t given even ONE great battle against the BO. Forget Thanos not even against the BO! Not even ONE battle to show off his skill set very lame 2 movies in a row now where he isn’t a bad ***. This is actually a big deal to me that Russo’s failed BP! What hurts the most is that they actually had a great build up for him to showcase his abilities especially when they showed him running faster than his troops which was so freaking bad *** BUT then it stopped there because what followed was just a blur on his contributions to the battle. Boooo!


Bucky was another total waste he actually fared even worse than BP he didn’t use his arm even ONCE in a cool manner.


Some of the GOTG humor was bad as usual.


Umm hello Valkyrie wtf.


Lack of Hulk on the battlefield grrrrr. Why why why, did Universal set a time limit on his usage? I agree with JAWS that killing BW in 4 will be a great reason for Hulk to go nuts.


So i’m guessing 4 will be where all of the “contractual” deaths take place? But it will also reverse back all of the disintegrated deaths, so lame lol


What a lame way to introduce Capt Marvel especially for people who have no clue why she should matter. Really bad.


Not movie plot related but did Evans also have a fallout with Marvel because no one is buying the “on broadway” excuse for NOT ATTENDING THE BIGGEST MCU PREMIER EVER!


As I think of more problems I will post them


Ok now onto what I LOVED!


Ummm can you say Marvel fixed their villain problem now holy crap lol Ledger Joker is still king but damn if Thanos wasn’t amazing. Yup better than Killmonger.


Thanos/Gamora dynamics! Damn was Gamora brought front and center or what wow.


Gauntlet/Stone utilzation was perfect!


Great opening with Hulk fight with armored Thanos (hence why Hulk didn’t really hurt him as someone had complained about).


Loki using Stark’s “We got a Hulk” line from Avengers 1 very very VERY cool.


Doctor Strange going from really lame in his solo movie to holy crap scary powerful and bad *** in this! Thankfully he more than made up for Bland Panther’s neglect.


Thor! Loved his god confidence against Thanos, Hemsworth must’ve bitched lol


SW was NOT underpowered in this she was a beast at times.


BW bitchy confidence attitude against Proxima I LOVED IT!


Ebony Maw against Avengers nuff said


Proxima face and demeanor she was scary psychotic at times loved it.


Loki’s death.


The huge armada rush, yes my jaw was on the ground like everyone elses!


The battle on Titan just freaking WOW WOW WOW WOW!


Hell just the action set pieces across the board from NYC and Wakanda!


Stark’s PTSD reaction to the alien ship arrival and NYC public running screaming.


I was ok with the BO not getting a back story you understand them by extrapolating from Gamora’s story.


WM/Falcon are bad ***! Loved WM new armor loved it must have now!


Last but not least holy crap Red Skull as the personification of death or so I think he was.
Just OMG moment that Weaving came back after vowing to never do so. How much did that cost Disney! Truly a grand jaw dropping moment I was blown away and super happy to see him! Finally closure took long enough sheesh!


At the end I almost thought that Gamora child was now going to be the personification of death during Thanos’s vision.


Cgi on Thanos.


Does anyone else think Thanos’s reasoning and motivation for balance could’ve been reverse engineered where by wiping out half of the universe he would bring back his real wife and children as in making him a hypocrite or is that too much like Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin lol Actually’s he’s already a hypocrite he thinks his own life is worth having around while on a mission to cleanse over population.


Honestly when you think about it what the Russo’s pulled off here with this many characters is nothing short of a small miracle. JL with 6 measly characters and 1 villain is a joke of a movie.


The audience gasps and awes! Really was shock and awe lastnight!


Avoiding spoilers was really super stressful i’m getting exhausted from doing that but i’m happy I did. There’s always a heavy price to pay if you want to get the full enjoyment of these types of movies.


Ok so there you have it.


Major problems but ultimately enough greatness to save the movie for me.


So this was an IW Part 1 afterall oh Marvel you little tricksters you lol





























 
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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

So Thanos can use it to get what he wants but not DS who used it so effectively in his own movie! Did I miss an explanation why DS couldn’t use it but Thanos could? Having the power to reverse time was lame in STM and it remains cinematically lame 40 years later, just lazy story telling.
I think DS explained this well, he saw 14 million futures and only 1 where they won, which included Thanos getting all the stones.

I love STM but I think it was handled better here.
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Ok here goes. It’s rather long sorry.

Let me get the major problems out of the way first because this is what ultimately almost crippled the movie for me.


Marvel just doesn’t have the balls to even kill characters who’s acting contracts are expiring lol


The lame disintegrating deaths on characters who have movies coming up in the next phase was just silly, zero stakes.


Snapping a finger quick disintegration death is fine for some it is the Infinity Gauntlet afterall but ONLY if you also included a face to face beat down death that would be brutal and have impact but NOPE! FAIL FAIL FAIL!


Russos’s said Hawkeye was on an important mission. So important it was a throw away line that didn’t sound important at all. I’m now fully convinced that Renner had a fallout with Marvel and how about Antman’s absence his upcoming battle with Ghost is going to seem silly after not helping with saving the earth, very bizarre happenings going on there.


I knew right after the Doctor Strange movie that the time stone was going to hurt IW for me maybe even almost ruin it. I said almost because thankfully there were plenty of positives to help tip the scale.


So Thanos can use it to get what he wants but not DS who used it so effectively in his own movie! Did I miss an explanation why DS couldn’t use it but Thanos could? Having the power to reverse time was lame in STM and it remains cinematically lame 40 years later, just lazy story telling.


My wife is stronger than Drax what a waste of a character he has been in the MCU.


Black Panther wasn’t given even ONE great battle against the BO. Forget Thanos not even against the BO! Not even ONE battle to show off his skill set very lame 2 movies in a row now where he isn’t a bad ***. This is actually a big deal to me that Russo’s failed BP! What hurts the most is that they actually had a great build up for him to showcase his abilities especially when they showed him running faster than his troops which was so freaking bad *** BUT then it stopped there because what followed was just a blur on his contributions to the battle. Boooo!


Bucky was another total waste he actually fared even worse than BP he didn’t use his arm even ONCE in a cool manner.


Some of the GOTG humor was bad as usual.


Umm hello Valkyrie wtf.


Lack of Hulk on the battlefield grrrrr. Why why why, did Universal set a time limit on his usage? I agree with JAWS that killing BW in 4 will be a great reason for Hulk to go nuts.


So i’m guessing 4 will be where all of the “contractual” deaths take place? But it will also reverse back all of the disintegrated deaths, so lame lol


What a lame way to introduce Capt Marvel especially for people who have no clue why she should matter. Really bad.


Not movie plot related but did Evans also have a fallout with Marvel because no one is buying the “on broadway” excuse for NOT ATTENDING THE BIGGEST MCU PREMIER EVER!


As I think of more problems I will post them


Ok now onto what I LOVED!


Ummm can you say Marvel fixed their villain problem now holy crap lol Ledger Joker is still king but damn if Thanos wasn’t amazing. Yup better than Killmonger.


Thanos/Gamora dynamics! Damn was Gamora brought front and center or what wow.


Gauntlet/Stone utilzation was perfect!


Great opening with Hulk fight with armored Thanos (hence why Hulk didn’t really hurt him as someone had complained about).


Loki using Stark’s “We got a Hulk” line from Avengers 1 very very VERY cool.


Doctor Strange going from really lame in his solo movie to holy crap scary powerful and bad *** in this! Thankfully he more than made up for Bland Panther’s neglect.


Thor! Loved his god confidence against Thanos, Hemsworth must’ve bitched lol


SW was NOT underpowered in this she was a beast at times.


BW bitchy confidence attitude against Proxima I LOVED IT!


Ebony Maw against Avengers nuff said


Proxima face and demeanor she was scary psychotic at times loved it.


Loki’s death.


The huge armada rush, yes my jaw was on the ground like everyone elses!


The battle on Titan just freaking WOW WOW WOW WOW!


Hell just the action set pieces across the board from NYC and Wakanda!


Stark’s PTSD reaction to the alien ship arrival and NYC public running screaming.


I was ok with the BO not getting a back story you understand them by extrapolating from Gamora’s story.


WM/Falcon are bad ***! Loved WM new armor loved it must have now!


Last but not least holy crap Red Skull as the personification of death or so I think he was.
Just OMG moment that Weaving came back after vowing to never do so. How much did that cost Disney! Truly a grand jaw dropping moment I was blown away and super happy to see him! Finally closure took long enough sheesh!


At the end I almost thought that Gamora child was now going to be the personification of death during Thanos’s vision.


Cgi on Thanos.


Does anyone else think Thanos’s reasoning and motivation for balance could’ve been reverse engineered where by wiping out half of the universe he would bring back his real wife and children as in making him a hypocrite or is that too much like Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin lol Actually’s he’s already a hypocrite he thinks his own life is worth having around while on a mission to cleanse over population.


Honestly when you think about it what the Russo’s pulled off here with this many characters is nothing short of a small miracle. JL with 6 measly characters and 1 villain is a joke of a movie.


The audience gasps and awes! Really was shock and awe lastnight!


Avoiding spoilers was really super stressful i’m getting exhausted from doing that but i’m happy I did. There’s always a heavy price to pay if you want to get the full enjoyment of these types of movies.


Ok so there you have it.


Major problems but ultimately enough greatness to save the movie for me.


So this was an IW Part 1 afterall oh Marvel you little tricksters you lol






























Top 5?


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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I think DS explained this well, he saw 14 million futures and only 1 where they won, which included Thanos getting all the stones.

I love STM but I think it was handled better here.

So at the end of the day DS will still use it I guess.

Meesa meesa not happy at all lol


[FONT=&][FONT=&]Last but not least holy crap Red Skull as the personification of death or so I think he was.
A different actor was listed in credits.

Oh snap lol

Fine by me.

Character > HW

Thanks for clarifying that. :hi5:
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Spoilers Ahead!!! Ye been warned!


First off.. I can't believe how much it feels like the day after Christmas this morning... Kind of that downer you get because all the excitement is over :lol

Anyways

What I loved.

Thanos - Easily the best part of the film.. As Jye Pointed out it was amazing CGI with an amazing performance. He was such a threatening presence. Having him make easy work of the Hulk and easily handling Thor really showed the audience that this was no ordinary villain.

Captain America / Falcon / Black Widow reveal with the Avengers them
e - Goosebumps all over my arms.. Loved it!

Thanos' Black Order especially Ebony Maw - He would have been a great villain in any Marvel film. The Black Order was cool also but Ebony was the best by far.

The overall feel of the film - The film had a feeling of dread from the beginning.. Our hero's never get a chance to have any sort of real victory. It is just hit after hit from Thanos. Perfect IMO. Really had a downer feel.

Killing Loki - It was a proper send off.. And I really hope it sticks as it would cheapen the film.

Thor joining the Wakanda fight
- In many ways this was Thor's movie. He had lost the most and got the "Yes" moment at the Wakanda battle a few times. Great stuff.

Spider-man screen time -Nice surprise having Spidey be in the whole film and not just a glorified cameo.

Vision's Second Death - tuning back time just to kill him again... Great stuff :lol

Nobody knew that Black Panther was going to be the huge movie it was - And because of that they did not try making this film about Black Panther.

The Balls of Marvel - To make a superhero movie that is not really about the hero's but about the Villain. To hold back the way they did. To not allow the Hero's any major hero moments... It all works.. It's all a perfect set up.



What was OK

No major action scenes stood out -
Even though none of the action was really a highlight of the MCU, I think there is a reason for this.. More on that later.

Star Lord's emotional attack
- I get why he had to attack Thanos at that specific moment.. But it just made him seem stupid. There was probably a better way to do all of that.


What was bad

Thor, Groot, and Rocket's journey to forge a new weapon for Thor.. All of that was pretty boring. When they got to the forging planet there was a whole other subplot that took place that was just so unneeded.. Guess it was written that way so Thor could be on screen more.





Overall I thought it did exactly what it wanted to. I don't think this film was made to be GREAT... That comes later. It will become GREAT with the 2nd part. This was all about setting up Thanos as a Bad *** and giving our hero's a real defeat.

I think its these reasons that there is no stand out action scene.. Our hero's are not allowed to shine. So how can there be that "Heroic" moment and because of this the action was more about losing.. Every time.

As a Hulk fan I did not mind how little he was used... I really believe he will get a chance to shine in the next film just like the rest of our hero's... My theory is Black Widow is either killed or almost killed in front of Banner and we will get a major brawl. I could be wrong but something has got to bring the Hulk out. Perhaps not BW but maybe Cap or Stark.

Now I will say this.. If the 2nd film fails deliver it will hurt this film. If its great it will enhance this film. It really is just a part one.. I have trouble even giving it a rating because it is just half a movie. Which again is great Balls by Marvel. Granted its been done before but IMO this whole film was a great big set up for a larger story and I love it for that. As a stand alone it has some issues. As the first part of much bigger story its about perfect. Does that make sense :LOL



I am sure there are things I am not thinking of.. It is a lot to digest... Time to go back and read other reviews now :)
 
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Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

So at the end of the day DS will still use it I guess.

Meesa meesa not happy at all lol
Most likely, but at least for this movie, it rendered it pointless to use it to stop Thanos.

I agree about Skullcandy too, pretty much the only thing that was unexpected for me.
 
Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

i still think they had another ending planned for this. the ending, it felt like re-edited to fit the time. like they had to re-shoot and cgi **** and got what we saw. i honestly think they went overtime and had to trim down, cut and re-edit.
trailer had hulk in the slow mo charge in wakanda.

you know hulk lost his nuts less than 10min in the movie

cgi mark ruffalo should be a meme
i cant believe they sunk banner to jarjar binks level towards the end.

i hope hawkeye turned to dust offscreen

the whole dust ending felt kinda lazy, war of the worlds pulled that one off better leaving off worn gear for starters
 
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