Media Batman: Arkham Knight

[sfa]

^ Yes I did actually. Drawing fan art can't be compared to piracy.

 

[RIDDICK]

Saying that a collage of official vignettes is a "fan drawing" should be illegal too.

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etc.

 

[sfa]

Actually, it isn't a collage of already existing images. I drew them myself. I used those as reference, yes, but I still drew them. So yes, it is 100% unquestionably a fan drawing. Anyway, I know what you're oh so subtly getting at here. That I'm a hypocrite on a high horse.

 

[Deckard]

If you drew them, my hats off to you, that's some serious talent.

But I disagree about fan art in general. Thing is you can still profit from that, and many do. That's why Dave closes down certain threads here if people are trying to illegally reproduce something that Sideshow holds a license for. Not to mention those dirty recasters. (doesn't mean I don't like fan art though)

 

[batfan08]

I think this may be the first skin I actually hate. The Gotham Knight one is by far the ugliest, but I don't give enough of a **** to hate it, and the TDKR skin, with his weird ass head, is a close second, but I think that the reason I hate this one so much is because it was one of my most wanted skins, and it was so easy to execute, and they blew it. I now understand why so many of you hate the AK suit, and that's exactly how I feel here. Rocksteady have fallen into the trap of "just because you can do something, that doesn't mean you should." They've given into the temptation of being able to render every single detail on current-gen consoles, and, because of this, they show no restraint, whatsoever.

The cowl and face look perfect, but I absolutely despise the fact that they've taken a stylistic choice that Andy Kubert and Eduardo Risso took in the design of the character, in the form of the "horns" on the shoulders of the cape and the ruffles along his collar bone and tried to rationalize them into a ribbed collar and giant, horned shoulder pads. Then, there's the pants, and the guns that he never used in the book. I don't get it, and I'm sick of it.

WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?!

 

[GasparZizou]

Nah, that redesign is fine, the militaristic look works for Thomas Wayne.

The real ugly designs are the TDKR and the disgusting Batman Beyond one, that one is beyond tasteless and nonsensical, not to say retarded.

This one is not nearly as ugly and over-designed as the AK suit, I'd kill to have no paneling and as little armored bits as the Thomas Wayne skin.

 

[Jameson Rook]

I like the Thomas Wayne Bats and I guess the bizarre decision to re-skin everything on top of the base 3D model could be because how realistic these graphics look. It's a terrible justification should that be true and a step backwards from the Arkham City skins and I have to admit, I no longer look forward to any of the skins in the game anymore, they're all so butchered. Oh well.

 

[batfan08]

Nah, that redesign is fine, the militaristic look works for Thomas Wayne.

The real ugly designs are the TDKR and the disgusting Batman Beyond one, that one is beyond tasteless and nonsensical, not to say retarded.

This one is not nearly as ugly and over-designed as the AK suit, I'd kill to have no paneling and as little armored bits as the Thomas Wayne skin.

I don't care what you say. The triangular shoulder pads are ****ing stupid.

 

[GasparZizou]

And having the cape twist into ominous pointy tips by osmosis is fine...

 

[batfan08]

And having the cape twist into ominous pointy tips by osmosis is fine...

Yes, yes it is.

 

[GasparZizou]

Awf cawrse, not dumb at all.

 

[batfan08]

Nope, not at all, because it's an artistic style. All of Kubert's Batman illustrations have that horned silhouette, but, if their goal is to make the design practical, rather than adapt it (which seems to be the case, considering all of the padding and everything else), then there's no need for that element to be in there, and trying to "rationalize" it with the spiked shoulder pads is, as I said, ****ing dumb.

 

[GasparZizou]

No, It's the same style, different approach, why does it have to lose style by having purpose? Answer, it doesn't, it a comic book character after all.

So if having style and purpose makes it stupid, having style without purpose just makes it stupider.

 

[Johnny Utah]

God I can't wait to just stand on a rooftop as Batman and take the city in. The sounds alone are worth the price.

 

[jye4ever]

Batman lied, he is wearing hockey pads, horned ones at that.

Gaspar's explanation makes more sense, but look at those shoulder pads.

They actually look like they serve a purpose though, seem functional.

 

[Sundowner]

I think this may be the first skin I actually hate. The Gotham Knight one is by far the ugliest, but I don't give enough of a **** to hate it, and the TDKR skin, with his weird ass head, is a close second, but I think that the reason I hate this one so much is because it was one of my most wanted skins, and it was so easy to execute, and they blew it. I now understand why so many of you hate the AK suit, and that's exactly how I feel here. Rocksteady have fallen into the trap of "just because you can do something, that doesn't mean you should." They've given into the temptation of being able to render every single detail on current-gen consoles, and, because of this, they show no restraint, whatsoever.

The cowl and face look perfect, but I absolutely despise the fact that they've taken a stylistic choice that Andy Kubert and Eduardo Risso took in the design of the character, in the form of the "horns" on the shoulders of the cape and the ruffles along his collar bone and tried to rationalize them into a ribbed collar and giant, horned shoulder pads. Then, there's the pants, and the guns that he never used in the book. I don't get it, and I'm sick of it.

WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?!

I just want the 89 suit and Bale's suit as well

 

[batfan08]

No, It's the same style, different approach, why does it have to lose style by having purpose? Answer, it doesn't, it a comic book character after all.

So if having style and purpose makes it stupid, having style without purpose just makes it stupider.

Because taking a part of the cape that was enhanced for dramatic effect by the artist, and trying to find the logical reason for the "horned" shoulders in a more grounded redesign by turning them into horned shoulder pads is, and always will be, completely stupid, and nothing you can say will change my mind. The irony is that they're trying to find a practical reason for them by turning them into pads, yet it's totally impractical. Why would his shoulder pads be horned?

Before you say "Why would his cape be horned," again, I reiterate, it's a stylistic choice made by the artist to give Batman more of an ethereal "creature of the night" quality. It's supposed to defy explanation, whereas horned shoulder pads enhance nothing, they just make you want to say "why are his shoulder pads so pointy?"

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

I think this may be the first skin I actually hate. The Gotham Knight one is by far the ugliest, but I don't give enough of a **** to hate it, and the TDKR skin, with his weird ass head, is a close second, but I think that the reason I hate this one so much is because it was one of my most wanted skins, and it was so easy to execute, and they blew it. I now understand why so many of you hate the AK suit, and that's exactly how I feel here. Rocksteady have fallen into the trap of "just because you can do something, that doesn't mean you should." They've given into the temptation of being able to render every single detail on current-gen consoles, and, because of this, they show no restraint, whatsoever.

The cowl and face look perfect, but I absolutely despise the fact that they've taken a stylistic choice that Andy Kubert and Eduardo Risso took in the design of the character, in the form of the "horns" on the shoulders of the cape and the ruffles along his collar bone and tried to rationalize them into a ribbed collar and giant, horned shoulder pads. Then, there's the pants, and the guns that he never used in the book. I don't get it, and I'm sick of it.

WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?!

It's probably because they aren't adapting the Flashpoint comic version of the suit. Much like most of the Arkham series being a stylized more mature adaptation of Batman the Animated Series with of course nods to comics all the way through. Maybe they're not adapting the comic version of Thomas Wayne here but instead the Flashpoint Paradox animated film version, where he very much does use the guns.

 

[GasparZizou]

Because taking a part of the cape that was enhanced for dramatic effect by the artist, and trying to find the logical reason for the "horned" shoulders in a more grounded redesign by turning them into horned shoulder pads is, and always will be, completely stupid, and nothing you can say will change my mind. The irony is that they're trying to find a practical reason for them by turning them into pads, yet it's totally impractical. Why would his shoulder pads be horned?

Before you say "Why would his cape be horned," again, I reiterate, it's a stylistic choice made by the artist to give Batman more of an ethereal "creature of the night" quality. It's supposed to defy explanation, whereas horned shoulder pads enhance nothing, they just make you want to say "why are his shoulder pads so pointy?"

You don't care what I say yet you keep trying to justify one over the other.

Anyway, no, it's not impractical, doesn't limit vision, nor movement, they're just spiky, and having a bit of practicality actually suits the Thomas Wayne character better than just fancy dramatic style, and if you're gonna ask those questions you might as well ask why does his helmet have little horns? Like I said having purpose doesn't exclude style, it's a comicbook character after all, and if by having purpose it's rendered stupid, then having no purpose for the sake of "artistic style" is just retarded, just an extension of your logic btw, cause I like both comicbook and skin.

No, it doesn't make me ask myself that question, because the answer is the same as for the original design.

 

[batfan08]

Whatever. I think it's disappointing, you think it's awesome; let's just agree to disagree, or I can keep bull****ting and we'll just go around and around until some new bit of news comes around to change the subject. I don't know. I guess I was just hoping that this would be one of the "regular" bat suits. I'm so tired of all of this **** having unnecessary shoulder pads and armor and straps. Looks like I'll be using those Detective #27 and '66 skins more than I had anticipated.