Premium Format Batman Keaton Premium Format Figure

[azurepred]

Being a Keaton PF, that's a pretty big flaw

basically.....that's a shame

 

[pturtle]

I haven't visited the thread but do know the Batman PF has been shipping. Is it the same old SS with bad QC? Or no problems? I really don't want to deal with SS ****ty QC again after Ivy.

Wrong thread man.

 

[Dellyboy]

AzurePred, your Signature picture, Brittney Palmer!!!!! HUBBA HUBBA, WHERES MY RUBBER

 

[DarkMagic]

Actually, I agree the Hot Toys DX 09 is has this thing beat by a mile. That face sculpt looks nothing like Keaton, hell even the 1990 Kenner action figure pulled off a better Keaton face than this PF does. Not to mention the body armor looks entirely too bulky for the '89 costume. People who pay PF prices expect a pretty dead on representation of the character is supposed to look like. The Henry Cavill Superman PF wasn't exactly a win either. Personally I think Sideshow should stick to the comic style and let Hot Toys handle the film related work.

Hot toys or nothing.


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I agree with you both. This is probably going to be the most expensive commercially sold version of Keaton Batman ever, but that obviously does not automatically translate to the most worth it / best version. I understand there was a lot of anticipation among PF collectors and even some Keaton fans, but even as a Keaton fan, I can admit that what I've seen does not entice me at all. There is a lot of artistic interpretation going on for a figure that is supposed to be based on a real guy in a real suit. Keaton was never able to turn his head anywhere near to that angle in either of his cowls. The stone Batcave steps are a creative idea for a stand, but inaccurate. The 1989 Batcave had no curved stone steps. I think a much more bold and inspired Keaton PF would have been a battle-damaged one lumbering up the steps inside the Cathedral. The scene would be instantly recognizable even with just a few wooden steps and a brick wall. And a weary, dirty, bloodied Batman figure would have been visually more interesting in terms of details and really distinguished this from the pack of other recent Keaton Batman releases (HT and NECA).

People who collect hot toys barbies thinking they have an authority in this thread, lolz.

Who is the "authority" on this anyway? You? It's not about "authority" it's about opinion and recognizing the best commercially sold scaled down representation of 1989 Keaton Batman to date. Based on what we've seen of SS offering so far, it's not it. They might improve later, but unless the straighten his head and do a complete overhaul of the headsculpt (and body sculpt to slim down that weird frumpy-ness), it's not even a contender. NECA's is the best in it's price range, (heck, Kenner's is the best in it's price range while we're at it) but HT is the best, period. Now, I'm willing to reserve final judgement until I see the final product of course, but the apologists in this thread really remind me of those people that insisted the Cinemaquette Reeve Superman looked great or that the Toynami 89 Batmobile was the most accurate...and then Hot Toys came out with their much better versions, for much cheaper. The Hot Toys version is still the best Keaton Batman. But when someone spends a lot more money on something than a superior, cheaper version (or commits to spend that money), it's understandable that they'd feel pretty defensive when its flaws are called out.

 

[pturtle]

I agree with you both. This is probably going to be the most expensive commercially sold version of Keaton Batman ever, but that obviously does not automatically translate to the most worth it / best version. I understand there was a lot of anticipation among PF collectors and even some Keaton fans, but even as a Keaton fan, I can admit that what I've seen does not entice me at all. There is a lot of artistic interpretation going on for a figure that is supposed to be based on a real guy in a real suit. Keaton was never able to turn his head anywhere near to that angle in either of his cowls. The stone Batcave steps are a creative idea for a stand, but inaccurate. The 1989 Batcave had no curved stone steps. I think a much more bold and inspired Keaton PF would have been a battle-damaged one lumbering up the steps inside the Cathedral. The scene would be instantly recognizable even with just a few wooden steps and a brick wall. And a weary, dirty, bloodied Batman figure would have been visually more interesting in terms of details and really distinguished this from the pack of other recent Keaton Batman releases (HT and NECA).



Who is the "authority" on this anyway? You? It's not about "authority" it's about opinion and recognizing the best commercially sold scaled down representation of 1989 Keaton Batman to date. Based on what we've seen of SS offering so far, it's not it. They might improve later, but unless the straighten his head and do a complete overhaul of the headsculpt (and body sculpt to slim down that weird frumpy-ness), it's not even a contender. NECA's is the best in it's price range, (heck, Kenner's is the best in it's price range while we're at it) but HT is the best, period. Now, I'm willing to reserve final judgement until I see the final product of course, but the apologists in this thread really remind me of those people that insisted the Cinemaquette Reeve Superman looked great or that the Toynami 89 Batmobile was the most accurate...and then Hot Toys came out with their much better versions, for much cheaper. The Hot Toys version is still the best Keaton Batman. But when someone spends a lot more money on something than a superior, cheaper version (or commits to spend that money), it's understandable that they'd feel pretty defensive when its flaws are called out.

How is everyone fighting already? Wait for thursday at least

 

[Irvy]

We've had two badly lit preview pics which in no way will be the final product. Naturally everyone should lose their minds and pre-cancel.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

But... His head is turned slightly... It's simply unacceptable

Statues should have a dead straight posture in future, it's what we truly want

 

[Uncle Bingo]

But... His head is turned slightly... It's simply unacceptable

Statues should have a dead straight posture in future, it's what we truly want

Yup, if he's not posed like that I'm not ordering it. (sarcasm in case the internet can't tell)

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

How is everyone fighting already? Wait for thursday at least

What, you didn't believe my predictions?

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[DarkMagic]

But... His head is turned slightly... It's simply unacceptable

Statues should have a dead straight posture in future, it's what we truly want

Hyperbole and sarcasm noted, but truly no one is arguing for him to be in an extremely vanilla position like that either. There are plenty of viable options for a Keaton PF that are visually interesting and don't exaggerate the mobility of his suit to the point of blatant inaccuracy.

 

[Atheris]

How is everyone fighting already? Wait for thursday at least

I believe that's the moto of this forum. I'm convinced the majority of the members here are teens. Much less of this goes on at SF.

Chris

 

[Uncle Bingo]

Who is the "authority" on this anyway? You? It's not about "authority" it's about opinion and recognizing the best commercially sold scaled down representation of 1989 Keaton Batman to date. Based on what we've seen of SS offering so far, it's not it. They might improve later, but unless the straighten his head and do a complete overhaul of the headsculpt (and body sculpt to slim down that weird frumpy-ness), it's not even a contender. NECA's is the best in it's price range, (heck, Kenner's is the best in it's price range while we're at it) but HT is the best, period. Now, I'm willing to reserve final judgement until I see the final product of course, but the apologists in this thread really remind me of those people that insisted the Cinemaquette Reeve Superman looked great or that the Toynami 89 Batmobile was the most accurate...and then Hot Toys came out with their much better versions, for much cheaper. The Hot Toys version is still the best Keaton Batman.

But when someone spends a lot more money on something than a superior, cheaper version (or commits to spend that money), it's understandable that they'd feel pretty defensive when its flaws are called out.

I will hold off on final judgement until Tuesday and its possible that the Hot Toys version may end up looking better than this, but the Hot Toys already has a flaw already much bigger than this; its a doll.

 

[Snadinator]

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I will hold off on final judgement until Tuesday and its possible that the Hot Toys version may end up looking better than this, but the Hot Toys already has a flaw already much bigger than this; its a doll.

Haha love that pic

 

[DarkMagic]

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Precisely...

It's not about "authority" it's about opinion and recognizing the best commercially sold scaled down representation of 1989 Keaton Batman to date.

...That's why I noted that at the beginning of the same paragraph you quoted. Perhaps we all should start every single sentence with "IMO..." to make it clearer.

I will hold off on final judgement until Tuesday and its possible that the Hot Toys version may end up looking better than this, but the Hot Toys already has a flaw already much bigger than this; its a doll.

I prefer the term collector's figure, but fine, let's use "doll". And what exactly is inherently flawed about being a doll? As a doll, it is right away more poseable than any PF or statue, and because of the construction of this specific "doll" it has no exposed joints that take away from the realism of it. Of course, no piece is perfect, but the two biggest flaws with the HT version are the bulky stock cape and the PERS panel on the back of it's head. Just being a poseable doll is not a strike against it anymore that just being an unposeable [mixed media] statue is a strike against this or any other PF. It's all about how it's implemented, and so far, no one has done it better than HT.

I do agree with your sentiment that things may change before the final product is released, but I can't really give them the benefit of the doubt that they will correct the flat out WRONG head angle. The issue that Keaton never could turn his head to that degree is not an opinion, is it?

 

[brucecamblzchin]

I will hold off on final judgement until Tuesday and its possible that the Hot Toys version may end up looking better than this, but the Hot Toys already has a flaw already much bigger than this; its a doll.

Daaaaaaaaaaamn!

The ht looks like a nice fig mate but it's not a PF and as such is irrelevant to me. The 'inaccuracy' of being able to slightly turn his head is debatable and actually I couldn't give a **** whether the fig has a slightly turned head or not.

 

[shallbecomeabat]

I was very anti Hot Toys "dolls" too, until I got my first one (a Joss Wheadon autographed Thor from Avengers. I met him while I was buying it at forbidden planet in London a few months back !) and now I am a believer. I have chosen a pose for him and now he looks like the most detailed 1/6 statue I ever owned.

Anyway... I think Keaton looks awesome! I am thinking about getting him, since I LOVE the base and pose. Like he is just walking down into the cave.
And thats coming from someone who fiercly hates the Burton interpretation of Batman (homicidal gothic Batman? No thank you), thats saying a lot. The head turn doesn't bother me one bit, but again I don't care about it being accurate. Its just a really badass looking Batman to me.

 

[Uncle Bingo]

Daaaaaaaaaaamn!

The ht looks like a nice fig mate but it's not a PF and as such is irrelevant to me. The 'inaccuracy' of being able to slightly turn his head is debatable and actually I couldn't give a **** whether the fig has a slightly turned head or not.

This is how I feel, but from what I've seen so far it looks epic as **** even with the turned head. Its going to take a lot to derail me from preordering this on Thurs.

 

[Atheris]

I will hold off on final judgement until Tuesday and its possible that the Hot Toys version may end up looking better than this, but the Hot Toys already has a flaw already much bigger than this; its a doll.

Carful!

Don't use the term "doll" to refer to people's dolls around here. They get very offended and self-conscious, then they will report you. Which will then cost you reputation points making you a less cool outcast.

I was reported the other day for hurting someone's feelings. Now the other kids won't talk to me at recess.

Chris

 

[Ponyboy]

Of course, no piece is perfect, but the two biggest flaws with the HT version are the bulky stock cape and the PERS panel on the back of it's head. Just being a poseable doll is not a strike against it anymore that just being an unposeable [mixed media] statue is a strike against this or any other PF. It's all about how it's implemented, and so far, no one has done it better than HT.

I agree the HT version is the best Keaton thing we've seen thus far. I hope HotToys improves on it when they do the Batman Returns version.

Also, can't do anything about the PERS system really, but... if you really wanna fix that cape problem... just google ole' Tony Mei. He made a perfect replacement cape that'll only set you back about $40 US.

 

[epitaph04]

Ha when I briefly collected 1/6 scale I had no problem referring to them as dolls. Coolest dolls around as far as I'm concerned!