Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[crows]

"What an idiot. If we'd just use my sword to cut off his head or stab him in the heart, then Superman would still be alive." - Wonder Woman

Once again Marvel did the Christ thing "better" with Evans Cap. Humble unassuming beginning with an innate and unshakable good inside him. Then he experiences a "transfiguration," has a water baptism, gets a team of disciples who follow him around, was paraded around in embarrassing attire in front of soldiers who mocked him, and "dies" while saving umpteen millions of people until he returns generations later.

Damn.... See, stuff like this is why i could never give the movie a pass, like I did with rises. This movie is too pretentious and full of itself.
But then the movie tries to be smart and clever and tries to be philosophical in some ways but then some of the writing and the motivation are worst than a movie like catwoman.

That was one of the reasons why I didnt like the end fight even though I hear it was some peoples favorite part. Why waste time getting the spear that also makes Superman weak when Wonder Woman's sword is enough?

Everybodys excuse is always "well, wonder woman was busy with her lasso so she couldnt use the sword to defeat doomsday"

People always try to make it sound like superman HAD to be the one that kills him because everyone else was busy.

But why the hell not just give the sword itself to superman...... I didnt even think of that.
This is so stupid now... Wonder woman just cant share her sword? After making a joke of sharing earlier in the movie?

Batmans gas weaken doomsday and superman could have used the sword a lot earlier in the fight......

What a mess.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Nick Fury gathered a bunch of followers, including several skeptical people not willing to go along with him initially, then he's betrayed, he's "killed", comes back from the dead, randomly shows up to guide and help his followers when they're in need of guidace, and he finally returns from the heavens to save everyone in his Helicarrier. See, anyone can be Jesus if you look for it.

 

[Khev]

Everybodys excuse is always "well, wonder woman was busy with her lasso so she couldnt use the sword to defeat doomsday"

People always try to make it sound like superman HAD to be the one that kills him because everyone else was busy.

But why the hell not just give the sword itself to superman...... I didnt even think of that.
This is so stupid now... Wonder woman just cant share her sword? After making a joke of sharing earlier in the movie?

Batmans gas weaken doomsday and superman could have used the sword a lot earlier in the fight......

What a mess.

I think the Doomsday fight is one of those instances of "well since I didn't notice it during my first viewing" then I can give it a pass regarding the WW sword. If someone watched the film and instantly went "what the hell, she cut off his hand, toss the blade to Supes and let him go full Cuisinart on Doomsday," then I could see it being a dealbreaker. But I was caught up in the chaos of the fight, enjoyed it, and I imagine will continue to enjoy it on future viewings.

I do think that for as blatant as the Christ symbolism was that Snyder botched too many other aspects of Superman's personality but again, Batman and WW made the movie for me. Superman's character was a "nice try" and cool in parts but ultimately left something to be desired.

 

[Khev]

Nick Fury gathered a bunch of followers, including several skeptical people not willing to go along with him initially, then he's betrayed, he's "killed", comes back from the dead, randomly shows up to guide and help his followers when they're in need of guidace, and he finally returns from the heavens to save everyone in his Helicarrier. See, anyone can be Jesus if you look for it.

That would seem to be the case in the MCU, a place where three days is actually considered a "long death."

 

[daikkenaurora]

Damn.... See, stuff like this is why i could never give the movie a pass, like I did with rises. This movie is too pretentious and full of itself.
But then the movie tries to be smart and clever and tries to be philosophical in some ways but then some of the writing and the motivation are worst than a movie like catwoman.

Everybodys excuse is always "well, wonder woman was busy with her lasso so she couldnt use the sword to defeat doomsday"

People always try to make it sound like superman HAD to be the one that kills him because everyone else was busy.

But why the hell not just give the sword itself to superman...... I didnt even think of that.
This is so stupid now... Wonder woman just cant share her sword? After making a joke of sharing earlier in the movie?

Batmans gas weaken doomsday and superman could have used the sword a lot earlier in the fight......

What a mess.

Yup, that is what I was thinking while watching the movie. Give Superman the sword while the gas messes up Poopsday. They could even coordinate the attack...like some kind of team.

 

[Khev]

The thing you naysayers always fail to acknowledge though is...

Yup, that is what I was thinking while watching the movie. Give Superman the sword while the gas messes up Poopsday. They could even coordinate the attack...like some kind of team.

...ah, shoot, I had a good argument I was about to give but now I see that you switched "Doom" with "Poop." Now I have no choice but to recognize that the movie was objectively bad.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That would seem to be the case in the MCU, a place where three days is actually considered a "long death."

 

[daikkenaurora]

The thing you naysayers always fail to acknowledge though is...



...ah, shoot, I had a good argument I was about to give but now I see that you switched "Doom" with "Poop." Now I have no choice but to recognize that the movie was objectively bad.

Another victory for the Anti-BvS League. lol But seriously, I'd like to hear your argument (if there even was one lol).

 

[Khev]

Another victory for the Anti-BvS League. lol But seriously, I'd like to hear your argument (if there even was one lol).

Nah, I didn't have some brilliant dissertation I was about to give. I just enjoyed BvS in spite of its faults.

 

[DiFabio]

Everything would have gone smoothly if Batman just made Kryptonite bullets. He had enough there to do it.

Shoot Superman in the head. BAM, done. Luthor has unleashed Doomsday? Batman flies over there, shoots Doomsday in the head. BAM, done.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Some people (looking at you Gaspar) will say, what if the kryptonite bullet can't penetrate Superman's skin because it takes several seconds for the Kryptonite to break the kryptonian cells?

However, Batman made those kryptonite smoke bullets which weakened Superman, so at that point, a Kryptonite bullet would have been enough to kill Superman. Therefore, instead of the spear, all he needed was two Kryptonite smoke bombs, and a bullet made out of kryptonite to finish the job.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Nah, I didn't have some brilliant dissertation I was about to give. I just enjoyed BvS in spite of its faults.

Would saying BvS is on the same level as the Transformers movie be wrong to say? BvS to me was a popcorn movie, just like the Transformers movies. Just turn off your brain and watch. Otherwise, you'll die.

Everything would have gone smoothly if Batman just made Kryptonite bullets. He had enough there to do it.

Shoot Superman in the head. BAM, done. Luthor has unleashed Doomsday? Batman flies over there, shoots Doomsday in the head. BAM, done.


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Doesnt it take time for the Kryptonite to take effect? Wouldnt the bullet just shatter against his skin?

 

[Khev]

Some people (looking at you Gaspar) will say, what if the kryptonite bullet can't penetrate Superman's skin because it takes several seconds for the Kryptonite to break the kryptonian cells?

However, Batman made those kryptonite smoke bullets which weakened Superman, so at that point, a Kryptonite bullet would have been enough to kill Superman. Therefore, instead of the spear, all he needed was two Kryptonite smoke bombs, and a bullet made out of kryptonite to finish the job.

Guns have chemicals, moving parts. Kryptonite doesn't work that way.

Would saying BvS is on the same level as the Transformers movie be wrong to say?

Well that'd be higher praise than most reviewers gave it.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Guns have chemicals, moving parts. Kryptonite doesn't work that way.

 

[DiFabio]

Some people (looking at you Gaspar) will say, what if the kryptonite bullet can't penetrate Superman's skin because it takes several seconds for the Kryptonite to break the kryptonian cells?

However, Batman made those kryptonite smoke bullets which weakened Superman, so at that point, a Kryptonite bullet would have been enough to kill Superman. Therefore, instead of the spear, all he needed was two Kryptonite smoke bombs, and a bullet made out of kryptonite to finish the job.

I'm under the impression that if you weaken Superman or Doomsday with enough Kryptonite (in this case, a small, 4 inch long spear head), you could kill them with a shot to the head. Look how Superman "died". He got stabbed by Doomsday's bone spike thing, not by kryptonite. He became mortal when he was a round the spear. I mean, after getting gassed, that ceramic kitchen sink look like it hurt Supes pretty bad. How about that scratch he got when Batman slices his face?

Batman wouldn't even need to make whole Kryptonite bullets. He could be a ****er and carve the lead and lace them with Kryptonite. The force behind that bullet parred with the kyrpotnite would surely break Superman's skin at the very least.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Guns have chemicals, moving parts. Kryptonite doesn't work that way.



Well that'd be higher praise than most reviewers gave it.

BvS needed a cameo from Sam Witwicky.

 

[jye4ever]

That would seem to be the case in the MCU, a place where three days is actually considered a "long death."

Some people (looking at you Gaspar) will say, what if the kryptonite bullet can't penetrate Superman's skin because it takes several seconds for the Kryptonite to break the kryptonian cells?

However, Batman made those kryptonite smoke bullets which weakened Superman, so at that point, a Kryptonite bullet would have been enough to kill Superman. Therefore, instead of the spear, all he needed was two Kryptonite smoke bombs, and a bullet made out of kryptonite to finish the job.

Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the... little emotions. In... you see, in their last moments.

 

[spindrift]

Can't wait to see you guys pick apart CW which I guarantee will have dozens of major and minor gaffs and plot holes..oh no wait it's Marvel..nobody cares about that stuff in one of their films

 

[Khev]

Come on Clown Prince do what your mother says, get in your room and acknowledge the greatness of The Force Awakens.

 

[karamazov80]

Everything would have gone smoothly if Batman just made Kryptonite bullets. He had enough there to do it.

Shoot Superman in the head. BAM, done. Luthor has unleashed Doomsday? Batman flies over there, shoots Doomsday in the head. BAM, done.


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Well that would make perfect sense of course. Except, as we all know, Batman doesn't ki. . .uh. Moving along.