Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Yup, it's cool, the only thing I'm not sure of is the collar, Rocafort makes it look cool, but I don't like it unless it's in his art.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

He'd probably have one with a along, similar to in TDKR; tear gas canisters on his belt, etc. think he'd use a cape?:lol

If there's any ballistic cloth in the world that would work for a cape, even with minor protection, I'd say use the cape. Sounds almost like we're leaving the theoretical and you're making yourself a shopping list batfan. :lol

"I'm Batfan! Eat taser and grapple hook, scum"
 
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Did they give Kal-El a nose job as well in that second manip?
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Boots with the same texture as body suit was the dumbest thing about MoS design.
And wristbands were the greatest thing about it :lol
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

I would like it closer to the classic costume. I love the brighter red, yellow, and blue. I'd think he'd want something less threatening to wear after the events in Man of Steel.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Well their not gonna go brighter colours based on the Batman costume, their gonna keep the costumes looking fairly similar so expect minor changes and the same muted colours.
 
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The contrast between Superman's bright red and blue, and Batman's grey and black always looked incredible to me.
 
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Boots with the same texture as body suit was the dumbest thing about MoS design.
Yeah, I didn't get that, smooth boots would have been a lot better, when he comes out of the train Nam-ek threw at him, the 1st thing you see is his boot, and someone in the back said "Spiderman", he wasn't too off.

Well their not gonna go brighter colours based on the Batman costume, their gonna keep the costumes looking fairly similar so expect minor changes and the same muted colours.

That'd be fine, I just hope they do change the design a little.

The contrast between Superman's bright red and blue, and Batman's grey and black always looked incredible to me.
Ditto.
 
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found a couple more.. I like the one with the belt but no red undies

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Unless they want to create a contrast between Superman (lighter) and Batman (darker).

I personally don't see them doing that. The way they've set Superman up in MoS isn't like, he doesn't seem colorful. I think he's gonna come across as a somewhat reluctant hero still grieving and adjusting, and seen as more of a threat than a guardian by the US and other heroes. A bright blue and red suit just doesn't work in the universe they set up imo.

I still prefer the original suit colouring and design. Only thing I would change is the boots and maybe the lining details on his sides.
 
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If there's any ballistic cloth in the world that would work for a cape, even with minor protection, I'd say use the cape. Sounds almost like we're leaving the theoretical and you're making yourself a shopping list batfan. :lol

"I'm Batfan! Eat taser and grapple hook, scum"

I must admit, it would be kind of cool to put together a custom "real world" Batman figure.

You know, as a roadmap of everything I'd need. :monkey1
 
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

You do bring up a good point, though; why would Batman ever put himself at risk to show off his 127 different martial arts skills when he could just tase would-be rapist, mugger, or thug in the face from the safety of a rooftop.:lol
 
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I can't wait to see you on the 6 o'clock news, Batfan.... I mean can't wait to see this figure. :wink1:
 
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I'm not questioning the definition but unless I use the word standard, I'm not referring to the standard.

You're really not good with synonyms or paraphrasing. For some odd reason, you just don't like that standard can be used in place of representative example which is what you were using comic books as in terms of peak form/bust size.

You completely missed the point of the pron comparison, pron is arguably one of the lowest forms of entertainment and mainstream comic books are a form of art that has a very respectable status these days, yet pron has a wider variety of the female form in peak shape, with or without fake ****s.

**** fetishizes all kinds of body parts so it resembles a circus more than an representative swath of humanity. As long as we were referring strictly to bust size, why would comics even need to compare with **** when the overall population doesn't either. Overall though these girls wouldn't be necessarily near peak form as athletes which is one of the main features in comic books character design.

To be slim athletic and busty is fairly exceptional, but we don't read comics because they're just like us. Call it exceptionalist if you want. **** isn't restricted by that, in fact it's not restricted by anything when it comes to body depictions so the point is moot.

You'd be better off asking why there aren't more dwarf superheros. At least then you'd answer you're own question.

I'm aware Wonder Woman is not "the worst offender", and yes, the amount of artists that have drawn WW in different ways make Gadot fall not so far from any given spectrum, and yes, big ****s is the only constant in WW's designs, but that doesn't make it NOT be a petty complaint.

She falls far enough that she was cast against type. Your archetype for WW is alot looser than most, and trying to invoke **** variety or liking Carter's body to Gadot's body is a desperate move that just does not work.

No wonder why comicbooks don't have variety in female bodies, you can't even grasp the concept, you reduced the entire concept of "variety of female form" to "bust size".... You want to think you're cornering me, you're not succeeding.

When I talk about bust size, you take it back to peak female form and when I address peak female form, you go back to bust sizes. The cycle continues. In both cases, Gadot is atypical in the purest sense of the word.

Why should you accept it? You don't, but other than the bust size, Gadot does fit on some WW representations, you're eluding that point a lot.

I directly addressed it, and what I'm what I said is that it's atypical and against type. The bust beyond being a mere focus of sexual attraction is one of the most promininet features in a full grown woman, aescetically. You either got the look or you don't and it doesn't necessarily have to be about sexual attraction. Now you can pretend it shouldn't factor in or exist, you can be just as solipsistic as you want to be. But to assume that the only reason we want to see that part of her more filled out merely from some lower instinct is out of line and very shortsighted.

I guess it follows because I haven't met many people with such low visual processing.

I never said she was "typical", I clearly said she's not ideal, but the fact that some designs fit her, make her not atypical.

You didn't have to, "atypical" already means means "not typical". It's a pass/fail, even for comics. Just because an artist wants to draw her like a gaunt supermodel, doesn't mean it can't be categorized for where it lies on the overall range of depictions. You want to say that because there are certain images of her as skinny means that Gadot falls safely within a broad range. She doesn't.

I'm telling you that you can't use comics as your reference here because not only is she skinny, she has nothing going on up top. Even in the range you're alluding to the only way you could come up short in both areas is if you were reading the Blackest Night. I don't say that because I'm fetishizing her, I'm saying it because like Superman, this female needs significant physical presence and breast are intractably part of that.

'cept that's not the end of her head.

Here you go!

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Even with Lynda's bouffant, Gal looks more like the Leader. Look at those arms and legs, no difference at all.

If the only difference is from the wrist down, that clearly indicates that the only difference is their hand size and the angle the arm is bent, you can see Gadot's arms is a bit more bent.

See above.

She can add some bulk, she doesn't need much anyway.

She needs bulk up just to look healthy.

Yes it does, there are skinny WW designs, that has been the whole point of this discussion.

No, the insistence that skinny is somehow not atypical for WW (which would still be typical btw), that there is no difference outside of hips and bust between Gadot and Carter (depite the stats) or obvious visual comparison (despite distortion) in a spanish site of your choosing isn't foolish enough to deny. You might insist on crossing your eyes the rest of your life, but I'm going to call you out on it.

You are kidding yourself if you think she wasn't cast against type.

PS: Just so it's clear and you don't keep making the same mistakes and wrong assumptions over and over like you've been doing.... I don't hate comic book standards, just that aspect of the female form and the reluctance to introduce more variety, I'm not even against having perfect, round and shinny exploding **** every once in a while not as a signature trait of comic books.

Why would I stand by your hyperbole? If the average bust in America is a D cup, maybe you need to reevaluate the comic book non-standard standard. Even the "skinny" examples you posted had a baseline bust size on a magnitude greater than Gadot's. You can't stand that apparently but you can't sit there and argue that Gadot isn't setting a new precedent for the character. That precedent is waify. You've embraced it, I've pinned it to a shadow box of oddities.

And in the entire argument I've never mentioned my taste for WW, but you're making assupntions about it, I'm just debating the validity of someone like Gadot representing her, I've said before that my taste would have been a big muscular more traditional Wonder Woman, I'm not favoring one style over the other.

No you've established both what you don't like and what you find as an acceptable deviation within a range. I dispute the range you think you've established in the comics because it is certainly outside of comics, I reject your grasp of what it means to be typical and atypical. There is no inbetween. That you have believe bust size is purely arbitrary in the female form, especially in an idealized physical specimen like Wonder Woman is laughable. Of course it isn't, and you sound like an utter tool when you say it's petty to think otherwise.
 
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