Hi both,
I think two important factors are being left out, head sculpt (size) and body (size/ proportions). From my own experience working on my K, I think these effect the final look and accuracy of both outfits and so, careful selection and modification, I think, could make either outfit great. Note, I haven't owned the Blackbox figure, so am going by second hand experience of that one only. As always, I find that it is a careful balancing act of working with a. the limitations of the outfit(s) available and b. bodies/ customisation work to achieve the most accurate likeness and screen-accuracy to the actor and character. However, if most of the custom head sculpts are of similar size to my V Collectibles sculpt, I do think the Supermad coat and outfit overall
might be more screen-accurate and potentially easier to work with. This is because I think putting the Blackbox coat on a beefier chest/ body is needed to make it more screen accurate, but that would most likely make the head look too small. I detailed some of this in my recent in-depth writeups. I shared the links to these yesterday and have included them again at the end of this post.
Look carefully and you can see that the Blackbox coat is too large and cumbersome on the stock Blackbox body. It fits too loose and wide on the arms and it sleeves are too long, covering most of the hands, the cuffs should stop just over the back of the palms and at the top of the thumbs. The coat should fit slim and quite tight, like the Supermad coat, which is to me is the most accurate overall. It also has the correct sleeve length with 3 of the 4 bodies I tried, 2 stock and 2 custom that I modified. That said, I found one trade off is that to achieve the correct height for Gosling, it probably makes the Supermad coat approx. a few mm too short (on the Supermad body and AT020). But I would rather have the correct height and more accurate, natural shoulder proportions, than not. And it doesn't really look that bad to me, or noticeable without direct comparison to the film. It was a similar case with Dark Toy's Deckard, swapping him over to a taller body, made him more realistic and height-accurate, but the stock DTs coat and trousers became slightly too short.
Some photos I had taken when analysing Gosling's trousers and leg proportions. But they also show the fit of the coat well, notice how it hugs the body, length and sleeve length. Photos taken in HDR, note:
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Now, it is obvious to me that if you increase the proportions of the Blackbox body, it will allow the coat to look more accurate, but then I think most sculpts will look undersized on it, so it is a Catch 22 with that figure. You can already see that the stock head looks slightly undersized with everything else stock. In contrast, one of the custom bodies I put together had an Hot Toys ANH chest, which was simply too bulky for the Supermad coat. But to my initial point above, I think such a body would suit the Blackbox coat better, but again, I think this may cause further issue with the head size.
Also, I would need to go back and check photos of my comparisons, but at least now on my AT020 (2024 version/ manufacture date), my Supermad coat doesn't look as skinny and tight as the one on the stock figure shared above. Also, it is worth noting that you can easily change the appearance and fit of at least the Supermad coat by tucking it in to the rear/ pinching.
For me, the most egregious thing about the stock Supermad body are the horrible shoulders, which make K's shoulders look like Tyrant from Resident Evil 3 with his collar up, but is especially noticeable with just his jumper on. I corrected this a lot with the more natural and sloped shoulders of the AT020, though in a relaxed pose/ posture, Gosling still has more sloped shoulders. I exemplified this in my writeup. As a trade-off however, the arms are slightly slimmer on the AT020, whereas the stock Supermad arms appear to be closer to Gosling's in the film. One frustration and thing I don't like about the AT020 is the lack of access to any screws to disassemble parts and mod the body.
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With my last custom body test (Maha, Leto/ ANH and other), the jumper was screen accurate in length. It isn't on the AT020. The one thing not really possible with the necked sculpts is having the jumper neckline screen-accurate, since it is lower in the film and if we had a jumper like that, it would expose the neck and body join/ line. I use a thin undergarment for my outfit, which a. helped the jumper stay fully pulled down without raising back up at all when handling the figure and b. gave a very slight padding to the thighs, which helps.
I can't see the Blackbox trousers fully in the above photos but it looks good to me. I think the Supermad ones are very accurate albeit, to me, the lower legs look are a bit wider than the screen-worn trousers. You could maybe fix this with padding, but would then need to pad out the thighs more/ enough to compensate.
I detailed this in my writeup, but thus far, I have found that the AT020 has been the best and most accurate body for the Supermad outfit and Gosling's anatomy. I have one more DID body on the way but at this stage, I doubt I will take the outfit off again as I don't want any more wear and tear to it, especially the Velcro on the trousers, which always weakens with each use.
Some photos of my K (WIP) and Deckard:
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Writeups:
https://www.collectorfreaks.com/thr...s-the-old-detective-2049.185763/post-11127469
https://www.collectorfreaks.com/thr...s-the-old-detective-2049.185763/post-11133327
