Captain America 4 New World Order - May 3, 2024

[crows]

And the next Avengers movie is right around the corner.

 

[JacktheRipper]

I'd see that!

 

[Mondragon]

And the next Averageners movie is right around the corner.

Fixed.

 

[ironwez20]

They can’t get blade off the ground. Hired RDJ back as a villian, multiverse ran its course. Xmen and Spider-Man are the only thing holding it together. As it should. We will see how the new FF turns out but not since the 2000s has an FF movie ever hit it big with people. They need to really bring it with that movie.

Yea this movie just doesn’t look good. Not cause of the new cap or anything it just doesn’t seem great and the only huge draw is red hulk but since green hulk has now turned into such a pussy we probably may never see him fight him.

 

[ironwez20]

Man when you put it like that, this really is the lamest lineup of new superheroes ever. Shang-chi and Kate Bishop I thought were legitimately cool, but even so they're still far from Avengers-worthy.

Yes some are cool. But they have COOLER characters they could bring to the table AND be just as diverse.

They are starting to feel like WB where they don’t know what characters they have. That captain marvel push seems to be dead though now that they got the fox characters back. I have no idea why they thought she would work.

But xmen has some strong female characters. I would love to see storm front and center.

 

[crows]

Yes some are cool. But they have COOLER characters they could bring to the table AND be just as diverse.

They are starting to feel like WB where they don’t know what characters they have. That captain marvel push seems to be dead though now that they got the fox characters back. I have no idea why they thought she would work.

But xmen has some strong female characters. I would love to see storm front and center.

Deadpool needs to become the new iron man. and lead the new avengers.
bring back Gambit
add him to the avengers ( just him)
add Sidney Sweeney as spider Gwen or black cat.

 

[davejames]

Eh I'd have a hard time even getting excited for another Avengers with the original cast. The superhero teamup thing just feels completely played out by this point, and it's only the solo stuff that I have the slightest bit of interest in right now (the next Batman, Spidey, Daredevil, etc).

 

[Khev]

I wonder if this super early Chris Evans announcement is Marvel saying "See we're telling you right now that Woke Lecture Cap is temporary so no need to skip Cap 4. Please? Pretty please? Remember when you went and saw Captain Marvel because you thought you had to in order to understand Endgame? Can you just do that again? We promise we'll make good movies again. Eventually."

 

[jinkazama]

 

[KitbashOfficer]

They can’t get blade off the ground. Hired RDJ back as a villian, multiverse ran its course. Xmen and Spider-Man are the only thing holding it together. As it should. We will see how the new FF turns out but not since the 2000s has an FF movie ever hit it big with people. They need to really bring it with that movie.

Yea this movie just doesn’t look good. Not cause of the new cap or anything it just doesn’t seem great and the only huge draw is red hulk but since green hulk has now turned into such a ***** we probably may never see him fight him.

Still convinced Feige had a (great) plan through Endgame only. Been winging since then...and that wing is losing all its feathers.

 

[ironwez20]

I wonder if this super early Chris Evans announcement is Marvel saying "See we're telling you right now that Woke Lecture Cap is temporary so no need to skip Cap 4. Please? Pretty please? Remember when you went and saw Captain Marvel because you thought you had to in order to understand Endgame? Can you just do that again? We promise we'll make good movies again. Eventually."

Tbh I don’t think anybody even saw the first captain marvel. Wasn’t that weird? Like there was an insane push for her in like the late 10s and feige said stupidly that she was “ marvels most popular character” she’s not even the most popular female character lol.

Then like after endgame and the fox merge you barely hear about her anymore. She’s not even in the most recent marvel rivals game. Storm, squirrel girl , cloak and dagger, black widow , mantis ,magik, Penni Parker and Luna snow are. lol. I just find it funny how they tried to make her bigger than what she was and tossed her aside when they got the xmen women back .

 

[Sassafras]

Tbh I don’t think anybody even saw the first captain marvel. Wasn’t that weird? Like there was an insane push for her in like the late 10s and feige said stupidly that she was “ marvels most popular character” she’s not even the most popular female character lol.

Then like after endgame and the fox merge you barely hear about her anymore. She’s not even in the most recent marvel rivals game. Storm, squirrel girl , cloak and dagger, black widow , mantis ,magik, Penni Parker and Luna snow are. lol. I just find it funny how they tried to make her bigger than what she was and tossed her aside when they got the xmen women back .

Feige was being a good politician.

There was a horrible confluence of forces - the success of Wonder Woman, messaging (remember critics sobbing with joy over Black Panther, when if you pick it apart a lot of the story doesn't make sense and terrible CGI); the push to get cheaper which meant hiring cheaper writers.

Even the Russos have said they regret not having more time to work on IW; and the uneven editing/writing of that film shows. Then X-men was a mess anyway with licensing and reboots of story lines.

IMO as well, Brie was a miscast. A miscast teamed with showrunners who didn't care much about the comics or respecting the MCU characters we already knew. Think the tide may be turning tho, with even Deadpool taking openly taking shots at the MCU.

 

[The Buffinator]

Tbh I don’t think anybody even saw the first captain marvel. Wasn’t that weird? Like there was an insane push for her in like the late 10s and feige said stupidly that she was “ marvels most popular character” she’s not even the most popular female character lol.

Then like after endgame and the fox merge you barely hear about her anymore. She’s not even in the most recent marvel rivals game. Storm, squirrel girl , cloak and dagger, black widow , mantis ,magik, Penni Parker and Luna snow are. lol. I just find it funny how they tried to make her bigger than what she was and tossed her aside when they got the xmen women back .

He said she was Marvel’s most powerful character not popular, but it had the same effect in that it alienated a lot of comic fans.

IMO as well, Brie was a miscast. A miscast teamed with showrunners who didn't care much about the comics or respecting the MCU characters we already knew. Think the tide may be turning tho, with even Deadpool taking openly taking shots at the MCU.

I agree that Brie wasn’t the best choice. She’s a good actress but she didn’t have the gravitas necessary for the role. Charlize Theron would have been a much better call, but Marvel was on a roll at the time and probably felt they could do no wrong.

 

[ironwez20]

He said she was Marvel’s most powerful character not popular, but it had the same effect in that it alienated a lot of comic fans.


I agree that Brie wasn’t the best choice. She’s a good actress but she didn’t have the gravitas necessary for the role. Charlize Theron would have been a much better call, but Marvel was on a roll at the time and probably felt they could do no wrong.

Oh I thought at one point he said she was th emost popular.

Edit. Nvm he said one of the most popular which wasn't correct at all cause nobody liked her

https://boundingintocomics.com/movi...utuber-youngrippa59-responds/#google_vignette

 

[jye4ever]

The past is in the past.

A new era begins in 2025.

Hollywood can’t pivot on a dime but pivot they will, the return message was received loud and clear.

 

[Khev]

The past is in the past.

A new era begins in 2025.

Hollywood can’t pivot on a dime but pivot they will, the return message was received loud and clear.

Bud Light commercials this year are very different than they were last year. Hopefully Hollywood does indeed change course but I suspect that Disney will be the last holdout to do so. I mean five years after TROS they still have Kathleen Kennedy for God's sake.

 

[Sassafras]

Just can't see Mackie as Cap; all due respect. It's not that he's not a good actor. It's just that trying to have that kind of gravitas or sincerity doesn't seem to be coming naturally. He's better at being quippy. When Pres sez the world needs Cap it's like he's going to laugh in Ford's face.

And what is the name of this, exactly?

 

[Khev]

And what is the name of this, exactly?

If they're smart "Captain America and Deadpool" lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'd really rather see that Murderverse.

 

[The Buffinator]

I wonder if this super early Chris Evans announcement is Marvel saying "See we're telling you right now that Woke Lecture Cap is temporary so no need to skip Cap 4. Please? Pretty please? Remember when you went and saw Captain Marvel because you thought you had to in order to understand Endgame? Can you just do that again? We promise we'll make good movies again. Eventually."

It seems that Chris and RDJ will have plenty of company lol…

https://www.avclub.com/hayley-atwells-avengers-doomsday-return