Captain Rex!!!

[Vonhahn]

Wow....they are actually pretty much charging the same as Hot Toys now.

Unfortunately, for the same price I fear it will arrive looking far less impressive than the prototype and have cheap plastic armor,floppy arms and a sub-par painted face with funky eyes.

Sorry, too many HT figures I can get for $125 that I know will be worth that price. Sideshow needs to get it together better before they start charging this much.
Just imagine if you'd paid that much for a floppy headed Indiana Jones or the Clonetrooper whose arms won't stay up to even hold his gun...
I have bought every 1/6 scale SW figure (and complete Jabba set) since the beginning and have not been impressed with the direction it has gone. The figures have not improved that much,if anything some (any clone/stormtrooper w/dumb looking non connected chest armor...Indy,etc) have gotten much worse. Instead of monkey armed figures we get floppy armed ones. Plus,what a piss poor exclusive they keep using. They can't even make a special gun or accessory or something for the exclusive?! A cheap different sticker on a cheap plastic stand. Wow.

Sadly,I have stopped ordering any non Hot Toys figures from SSC until I see proof they are worth the money,which right now they are not. After getting burned on my last 4 figures having massive problems,I'm done with their SW line for now.Plus,you can see the prices are no where even close to going up in value like Hot Toys are. Just look on ebay. Why order from SSC when you can find it on clearance from a 3rd party company online 6 months from now?

Remember when Jedi Luke came out and SSC swore they were going to keep the Star Wars figures at around the $50 range? LOL, the rate their prices have gone up compared to the quality of the product do not match and that's a fact.

While I'm not sure that I can agree with this regarding the quality of SS products (My last five have been perferct) I do think that the prices are getting a little too high. I know he comes with a lot of stuff, but price increases like this are going to bump me out of the market.

 

[Wookiee Breath]

I dunno. I can kinda see his point. We already know that Sideshow's wary of anything they don't think can be done in production. Firefly's camo balaclava is a perfect example of this.

So Hot Toys can mass produce figures with paint jobs like say,the Predators face detail but SSC can't get their factory to paint freakin camouflage?
CAMOUFLAGE. My 4 year old niece could paint decent camouflage.

That reminded me, I bought their Snake Eyes: you can tell the affect of HT's help in it's amazing detail on the costume. You can see Sideshows in it's horrible skinny little body and misproportioned arms.
I wouldn't have released that figure in that condition. It looks horrible for a 1/6 scale "replica" of a human being. I wanted to collect the GI Joe line but I was done after him. Seeing Duke & the unhooded BeachHead (LOL nice facial pose)and that "what is supposed to be Firefly" figure, I did the right thing.

Same with Aragorn..my 1st and last LOTR figure for obvious reasons to anyone who's seen it(and many others evidently given the current state of that line...way to go with snagging one of the greatest properties in the world and killing it swiftly with horrible products even though you had fans clamoring for it...what a waste).

I used to be a huge SSC supporter and I have proof in the $1000's of figures I have bought from them. Unfortunately, when you put them side to side with Hot Toys they look very poor. Now SSC has decided us automoton Star Wars fans will spend the same price of some amazing HT figure for one of their floppy limbed,cheap plastic non-movie accurate armored figures that will look nothing like the handmade prototype (unlike HT for the most part) because hey, "they buy anything!".

Even Hasbro (who led the "SW fans will buy any crap we make attitude) has started gouging SW figures for $8 a pop, BUT I will say they have improved them immensely. The paint jobs are better and the articulation has taken big leaps over the last few years and is only getting better.
See their new Iron Man War Machine 3 3/4 figure for proof. It's almost a little Hot Toys figure for $6.

I'm sure the same can be said for Mattel and their Avatar or new He-Man classics line. I'm starting to agree with others that SSC needs to stick to 1/4 scale. Just imagine if Hot Toys had the Star Wars license...if they can make an engineering marvel like Iron Man for $150, I know they could make a simple armored Clonetrooper figure for the same as what SSC is charging & you are kidding yourself if you think theirs wouldn't make SSC's look like a Hasbro toy.

Seems every toy company is charging more for figures but you are getting a nice figure for a decent price with most of them. SSC makes you roll the dice on a figure grossly misrepresented in their ads for prices no where worth what you end up getting. Plus they can't even paint a camoulaged hood on a $125 figure...

You guys have fun buying Clones for the next 2 years...I'll be adding to my amazing & valuble Hot Toys collection you'll be wishing you could afford by then because you wasted your money on these problematic,sub-par 1/6 scale pieces of $130 junk.

 

[thenammagazine]

I like how you're comparing a $125 Star Wars (LFL license) figure to a near $200 predator. If HT had this license, don't doubt for a single minute you'd be paying anything less than $189 for this guy. When you look at things, at least have the common sense to make a fair and accurate comparison.

As for HT being "valuable," check ebay and the sales thread. More often than not, TDK Batman, DX Batman, Joker, Mark III Iron Man, Pvt. Billy Sole, etc., they're going below MSRP as well.

P.S. You clearly need to research the situation on Firefly's balaclava. You don't know what the ____ you're talking about...

 

[Wookiee Breath]

I like how you're comparing a $125 Star Wars (LFL license) figure to a near $200 predator. If HT had this license, don't doubt for a single minute you'd be paying anything less than $189 for this guy. When you look at things, at least have the common sense to make a fair and accurate comparison.

As for HT being "valuable," check ebay and the sales thread. More often than not, TDK Batman, DX Batman, Joker, Mark III Iron Man, Pvt. Billy Sole, etc., they're going below MSRP as well.

P.S. You clearly need to research the situation on Firefly's balaclava. You don't know what the ____ you're talking about...

Well it didn't take long for the resident "angry internet caveman" to reply.

Just so you know,I bought the Lost Predator from SSC actually for $159.99. The Firefly is $124.99. If you honestly think the Firefly will be anywhere close to being even a $30 difference in quality you are truly as deluded as most people here think. Not to mention you are comparing a figure with known quality against a prototype. There's NO denying that the actual product you truly get from Sideshow is NEVER on par with the quality of the advertised figure. In many,many cases it is inexcusibly not on par. It's almost bordered on false advertising with many figures.

If that clone was $80-$90 I could *maybe* see it's worth. IF you get a figure that truly represents the prototype in the picture which in this case and in Firefly, for such a big know-it-all,you don't know squat. Do you have a production Firefly or Rex in your hands? Of course not, and given SSC's record of pretty much never delivering a figure anywhere near the picture you ordered from, I'd say I'd safely bet money it will have issues and not look anything like the prototype,especially in their paint jobs. SSC has horrible painters making their figures yet the prices keep going up very rapidly. So what are we paying so much more for really?

And dude, you are completely delusional and speak before you know your facts. A simple check of completed Hot Toys ebay auctions to this moment show the large majority going WAY up in price very quickly over time. The Batmobile is selling for $600 with another $125 shipping. Hell,the Batpod has sold for over $500 w/ $60 shipping! Check your facts: ebay.com>completed auctions> Hot Toys Batman. Or Iron Man, etc. It should be pretty easy,even for you.

Now then you name brand new items still at every online retailer or 3rd rate figures (without even his likeness) like Billy from Predator . You've got to be kidding me.

PLEASE go & waste your time trying to buy an original Iron Man that isnt the current DX one on sale for retail price. Or a Predator. Or the original suited Batman I got for $140 two years ago that now goes for over $400. The Iron Man MK 3 and MK 2 are selling for $300 or more, the MK 1 over $260 and closing on $300. Hellboy is going for $200. Dutch is sometimes going for $300 and the new Predator is already passed that mark.

I don't know what you're smoking or if it's just your free-flowing ignorant arrogance, but you need to learn that before you call out another's lack of knowledge on a subject,that you need to check your own facts and not just spew out your angry opinions,that are well...just that.
You find me me a mint unopened specimen of any of the figures I named above for the original retail price and I'll buy them for you.

Not to rub more salt in the wound but name me 1....just 1...SSC Star Wars or LOTR figure (or any 1/6 scale they make...enlighten me) that has gone ANY-WHERE near that type of price increase on the secondary market in that short a time or even longer.
The quality speaks for itself in the what the public wants and will pay for.

 

[jedibear]

Alright, alright....let's tone down the rhetoric a bit, shall we?

Spirited discussion is one thing but it's veering a little close to PA (Personal Attack) territory here...

Let's get back to Rex...
Thanks...

 

[thenammagazine]

Patient Zero. There was a time when that $50 figure was as high and selling for $600.

 

[Deeznutz6]

Patient Zero. There was a time when that $50 figure was as high and selling for $600.

Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes, arent those two others?

Anyway glad I dont buy clones, no way i would have paid 150$ CAD for this. If the price increases in this line for non "ultra" versions, Ill be dropping it like a hot potato.

I think this increase is to soften the blow when they release Boba at SDCC

 

[Wor-Gar]

Nazi Kroenen.

 

[Buttmunch]

I think you guys are looking at the price all wrong. Sure you can get a HT figure for $125. You could even get one for $30 if you didn't mind it being naked. A $125 HT figure has next to no accessories or extras. Maybe some hands and a stand and 1 item. Look at all of the stuff Rex comes with! 2 Heads, 6 SETS of hands, 2 SETS of boots, 2 pistols, 1 blaster, 1 long rifle, and a jetpack! And there are a few more things there too. I think if they had a GI Joe shot of all of the stuff he comes with, I don't think the price would seem so bad. In those Joe pics you can see all of the gear laid out and its impressive and helps sell the price IMO. But Rex's pics don't show everything he comes with, let alone all in one shot.

Is $125 a lot? Yes, yes it is. Hard to believe Jedi Luke was expensive for the time at $50. But they've come a long way since Luke. Sure HT is still king of 1:6 but the sheer amount of products Sideshow can produce is amaing! Full sized replicas and busts, premium formats, LSBs, dioramas, environments, and more. HT just focuses on 1:6 items with the rare 1:4 bust. When you focus your products that much, you're bound to be better at them then someone that can do practically everything. Costco sells just about everything a person could want, but you still go to ToysRus when looking for a toy. Sideshow = Costco, Hot Toys = ToysRus

I for one can't wait for Rex and then Cody, probably at SDCC

 

[Deeznutz6]

I get what your saying, but I dont think there is any reason for a SW figure to be 125$.

 

[joda76]

Yeah anyway I got my order in. Glad it is slated for 4th quarter so I can catch up on other figures.
I think quite a few SW figures have turned the same or better than the proto. Yeah they had some body (armor body) issues but I like em and still easier to drop $90-125 then $160 plus.
Just my 2 cents because I am much to tired too type a chapter out about the above post.

 

[BuddyGus]

ordered. looks awesome. jetpack is the best thing sideshow has done in a while

 

[shocktrooper_au]

I ordered, it's just to nice to pass, I really like all the extra's & the pack looks awesome glad it's Q4 & will have to cancel if Cody is around the same time

 

[thenammagazine]

Yeah anyway I got my order in. Glad it is slated for 4th quarter so I can catch up on other figures.
I think quite a few SW figures have turned the same or better than the proto. Yeah they had some body (armor body) issues but I like em and still easier to drop $90-125 then $160 plus.
Just my 2 cents because I am much to tired too type a chapter out about the above post.

Clearly some people have either unresolved issues or need to justify spending more on HT prices, or potentially both. What I don't get is when they draw ridiculous comparisons that are completely irrelevant. It reminds me of when Justin would accost Sideshow for their high prices while comparing it to the rock-bottom prices of HT figures he sniped off of ebay or bought at a sale price from an online retailer. No common sense, these guys.

 

[Wookiee Breath]

Patient Zero. There was a time when that $50 figure was as high and selling for $600.

OK, 1 out of how many? I'm a HUGE zombie fan and I can see some of the coolness with those but I think they're painted like utter crap. They have that glossy ugly paint job like they used to do with their first 1/6 scales figures. But hey,to each his own...


Snakes Eyes sells on the name alone. I have the exclusive of him & was super excited to get him but after having him in person...he's not worth $200-$300. His incredible costume on another body might be worth getting for cheap but still.

To Sideshows credit, I'm surprised their 1/6 Darth Vader is going for less than Snake Eyes. Now that was a very nice piece of work and the best figure SSC has made IMO. Well worth $125.

Stop and think about that...the SSC Darth Vader, in all it's complexity,new body,costume..cost exactly the same as Rex. Have a look if you don't believe me. https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=21291&ref=listing-page


Put the 2 side by side when you get them and ponder the value of $125 worth of work and material.
That was what, about a year or so since we got Vader? What is the ROTJ Vader gonna cost? $300?

Vader is a character who sells on name alone also but I think the difference is that there are a million Vader items you can buy but very few Snake Eyes. They could probably make a plush Snake Eyes and it would sell out.

 

[toystales]

I get what your saying, but I dont think there is any reason for a SW figure to be 125$.

I agree with you considering that many of the parts can and will be reused in subsequent SW Clone Troopers and Armored Characters like Boba and maybe Jango.

While I am sure going to buy Rex, any further price increase in subsequent SW figures from SSC will probably set me thinking seriously whether I can keep up with this hobby.

On the same note, if Boba Fett is going to cost $150 (which is certainly possible with SSC rapidly increasing their prices across the board), then I will be giving it the pass. Painful but necessary pass.

 

[thenammagazine]

OK, 1 out of how many? I'm a HUGE zombie fan and I can see some of the coolness with those but I think they're painted like utter crap. They have that glossy ugly paint job like they used to do with their first 1/6 scales figures. But hey,to each his own...


Snakes Eyes sells on the name alone. I have the exclusive of him & was super excited to get him but after having him in person...he's not worth $200-$300. His incredible costume on another body might be worth getting for cheap but still.

To Sideshows credit, I'm surprised their 1/6 Darth Vader is going for less than Snake Eyes. Now that was a very nice piece of work and the best figure SSC has made IMO. Well worth $125.

Stop and think about that...the SSC Darth Vader, in all it's complexity,new body,costume..cost exactly the same as Rex. Have a look if you don't believe me. https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=21291&ref=listing-page


Put the 2 side by side when you get them and ponder the value of $125 worth of work and material.
That was what, about a year or so since we got Vader? What is the ROTJ Vader gonna cost? $300?

Vader is a character who sells on name alone also but I think the difference is that there are a million Vader items you can buy but very few Snake Eyes. They could probably make a plush Snake Eyes and it would sell out.

Give it a rest bub. Change into your frumpies, grab a heat pad and some Bon Bons and ride it out. "Aunt Flo" will leave in a week and you'll be back to normal.

 

[Alainator]

Rex doesn't look like morrison at all. At least to me. What do you guys think?

 

[thenammagazine]

Rex doesn't look like morrison at all. At least to me. What do you guys think?

I think you need glasses.

 

[shocktrooper_au]

Yep looks pretty sweet to me, probably just the apps on it