Show me a quote where it says it need 500M to break even not saying anything less is big trouble. Those do not have to mean the same thing.
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A lot of "ifs" in this article!
https://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/ghostbusters-box-office-2-1201816038/
Honestly I don't see this movie having any legs, It's mediocre at best
Even I thought it would do better than it did. (See we can admit when we are wrong. Well half wrong, anyway.)
https://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/ghostbusters-box-office-2-1201816038/
Honestly I don't see this movie having any legs, It's mediocre at best
Even I thought it would do better than it did. (See we can admit when we are wrong. Well half wrong, anyway.)
Here is the real quote
As opening day approaches, Feig can’t help but think about the stakes of making a $150 million movie. “A movie like this has to at least get to like $500 million worldwide, and that’s probably low,” he says. “But the thing I care about most is the industry looking for an excuse to say, ‘See, a tentpole can’t be carried by female leads’ ” — three of whom are over 40. “I cashed in all my chips,” he says. “I had to use every chip to make this happen. And if this doesn’t work, I will probably have to go back to movie jail.”
Ghostbusters is a brand on-par with Star Wars and Marvel? Sounds like you've been reading Sony's press releases for the GB reboot.
Star Wars and Marvel - arguably the two biggest pop culture franchises in history that each hold at least a half dozen of THE most iconic characters of all time? Versus a "franchise" that has NO identifiable characters to the man on the street (the reason it could be mercilessly and cynically rebooted the way it was)? In real terms, GB is only a notch or two above something like Gremlins: all concept, one major hit movie and a disappointing sequel from 30 years ago, and sporadic/middling merchandising success over the years.
Look, the opening is mediocre for sure and well on the weaker side of middling - and the road ahead is definitely rocky (the fact it can't get a release in China due to superstitious content(!) is bad) - but a lot of what's being written in this thread is simply "glass half empty" informed only by preconceived hate. Not based on either the movie itself or the actual business reality.
To be TRUTHFUL you have to also at least look at the "glass half full" side - because in this case, there is one. As I said, this didn't open to $18-22 million as it easily could have. We've heard from the Freaks "experts" (it always cracks me up to see you guys doing your little "analysis" and "breakdowns") so in the interest of balance, let's hear from some actual experts on the GB opening weekend:
boxofficeguru:
"... looking at how the box office has performed this year, the performance was encouraging. Of the top ten opening weekends of 2016, only two are not cartoons or comic book movies. Those would be The Jungle Book at $103.3M and now Ghostbusters. In fact, breaking $40M on opening weekend has been very difficult all year for live-action movies outside of super hero flicks. Ghostbusters enjoyed only a 5% dip from Friday to Saturday which is better than what similar films see at this time of year. Business with kids kicked in despite intense competition for that age group this summer. Midweek playability could allow Ghostbusters to finish with a domestic gross that comes close to its production cost."
Forbes:
"...opened this weekend with a solid $46 million debut. Not the top film of the weekend, but that’s more about The Secret Life of Pets over-performing than Ghostbusters under-performing. It’s a big debut, be it #1 or #10 for the weekend. It is just behind the $54m opening of The Martian for Kirsten Wiig’s best live-action opening. This is even big for Chris Hemsworth, coming in below only the MCU films and Snow White and the Huntsman ($56m). It’s the third-biggest live-action opening of the summer behind X-Men: Apocalypse and Captain America: Civil War. And just this year, it’s the second biggest live-action/non-superhero opening thus far behind only Walt Disney’s The Jungle Book. So in a summer of many underperforming would-be franchises, this one broke out about as big as could’ve been hoped."
So there you have it. A bit more balanced and fact-informed thread again.
Just gauging by the length of your retort, there is little value here.
Now, first, and you got me pissed out of the gate by taking the GB = SW way too seriously. Laughing emojis aside, you know exactly what I meant. When you make a Ghostbusters, you are selling to the same market as Marvel fare and Star Wars fare. I never said GB = SW or Marvel, but it plays to the same massive pool, or it hopes to. Tentpole pictures, whatever you want to call them. Movies in the $140-$200 million range. A $50 mil weekend is not great, especially when you expect a possible 50% drop the follow week.
The rest of your post, really has nothing to do with my post. But I admire the "back-up" articles to add girth to your post. Just shows a lot of ho-hum movies being made this year having trouble breaking $40 mil.
Not sure why you're being obstinate on this except that I disagreed with you. It happens.
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He says it quite clearly there. That number is not about getting out of the red that number is about it being successful. He is saying he needs 500M for the studios not saying nope you were wrong. This all about his future not about getting into the black.
Like TFA, the best thing about this movie is that it brought back marketing for the original -- i.e. the Blitzway Ghostbusters figures.
Just like ID4:Resurgence, it's needs to make $150 to break even. Anything over that is profit. ID42 has already made theirs back. I'm sure this one will too, worldwide. That's why they're talking about another one already.
Hell, to some, if a movie doesn't break 1 billion they'll call it a flop.
Wasn't the production budget alone for ID4 2 even higher than $150K?
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Independence Day:Resurgence.
Production Budget: $165 million
Box office
Domestic: $98,516,443 29.2%
Foreign: $239,197,297 70.8%
Worldwide: $337,713,740
Break even # $660 M.
Ghostbusters
Production Budget: $144 million
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Box office Estimated.
Domestic: $46,000,000 70.7%
Foreign: $19,100,000 29.3%
Worldwide: $65,100,000
Break even # $350-$550M. Estimated.
Production Budget: $165 million
Box office
Domestic: $98,516,443 29.2%
Foreign: $239,197,297 70.8%
Worldwide: $337,713,740
Break even # $660 M.
Ghostbusters
Production Budget: $144 million
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Box office Estimated.
Domestic: $46,000,000 70.7%
Foreign: $19,100,000 29.3%
Worldwide: $65,100,000
Break even # $350-$550M. Estimated.
65 million worldwide, domestic it's still hovering at 46 million.
So that means the foreign take is 19 million. Odd, seems it should be identical or double the domestic take since it was released a week before America.
consider the European number is for the whole week, this was released last monday....
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You just wander in here, but you don't get it. His life will be complete if GB doesn't break even. Yup. This shizz is fo' real.
But... if it does break even.... he will be changed chemically. Different. The womens, they broke into his pop culture sanctum. And I mean NOT the kind of womens geek boys like. And they took stuff - and they WON. And not even an OJ Vegas hotel run with bros and guns will get his stuff back.
There's also... a clinical risk. If this movie breaks even. That he may become a... "Sony-Raped-My-Childhood-Guy." Yes, one of those. So everyone? Please...
1. Pray for a big second weekend drop. Preferably, add "more than 75%"
2. Pray those peoples overseas just see the movie as heavy or unattractive women with weird green light in the background.
3. But most of all... pray that it doesn't break even. This is the big one. And here's the important part - add "less than $500 million"
I'll be praying now. I'm not posting anymore here. Just doing my part, like everyone should.
Nobody wants to see a "Sony-Raped-My-Childhood-Guy." Nobody.
EVILFACE
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I would need to make more, usually double budget. There are marketing costs to cover as well as the theaters get their cut.
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No where there does it say that they NEED 500 for PROFIT. He just says "a movie like this needs 500 million" but he doesn't say that that benchmark is where it will break even. Like mfoga says, it's where he thinks it would have to hit for the studios to take the idea of female led films seriously.
I thought you liked TFA?
omg.... evilface is like the 4th person to mention this
..... i think at least 4 of us have mentioned the business standard of needing to double its budget.... is not something we are making up. you guys are just trolling around at this point i swear but just for the sake of the argument:
sources? you guys like sources right?
here are a couple talking about how much a theater gets and how the box office divides
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable
https://www.boxofficeflops.com/articles/when-does-a-movie-break-even-at-the-box-office/
https://warmovies.about.com/od/Box-...-Office-Film-Budgets-and-Review-Consensus.htm
The income a film earns is only about half of what's reported. The popular wisdom is that cinemas make their income off of popcorn.
Not true.Cinemas get about half of the ticket price.
Internationally, it's a pretty even 50/50 split. Domestically, it used to be on a sliding scale, that the first weeks the studio would get the money and then cinemas would get an increasing percentage of the ticket sales in subsequent weeks.
That was a model that worked well for cinemas when a film could play for a few months.
But these days, when a film is out of the cinema in four week's time, increasingly, you're seeing a 50/50 split in domestic cinemas too.
It used to be that a film's theatrical run was really just an advertisement for its DVD release - that's where the real money was. When sold for $15, and when they only cost a buck to produce and a few dollars for Wal-Mart, that was $10 into the studio's pocket for every DVD sold. Add in a global market and DVDs were where films earned their real money.
But DVDs are dying in place of Video on Demand. The problem is that VOD is mostly rentals that go for $3, a good portion of which goes to iTunes or Amazon or Google or your cable television provider.
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GET 0UT 0f MY THREAD!!!!
actually yeah, it made less than 50, his thread needs to be closed now
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GET 0UT 0f MY THREAD!!!!
actually yeah, it made less than 50, his thread needs to be closed now
BUT, BUT....... This movie has legs, you'll see....
BUT, BUT....... This movie has legs, you'll see....
it still has to open in these markets
Israel 21 July 2016
Portugal 21 July 2016
Finland 22 July 2016
Indonesia 22 July 2016
Norway 22 July 2016
Sweden 27 July 2016
Greece 28 July 2016
Croatia 28 July 2016
Hungary 28 July 2016
Italy 28 July 2016
Cambodia 28 July 2016
Serbia 28 July 2016
Russia 28 July 2016
Slovenia 28 July 2016
Slovakia 28 July 2016
Ukraine 28 July 2016
Austria 29 July 2016
Bulgaria 29 July 2016
Estonia 29 July 2016
Lithuania 29 July 2016
Turkey 29 July 2016
Germany 4 August 2016
Denmark 4 August 2016
Belgium 10 August 2016
Spain 12 August 2016
Japan 19 August 2016
France 24 August 2016
Guaranteed 900 Million Box Office!!!!!
you know, when all of you guys ask "why do you care about this?"
when all you guys keep asking me why im being so hard on this, just watch this. Just give it a watch... this points out everything that is wrong with sony and Feig and this movie.
this points out why this movie existing sucks. seriously, you guys ASKED, Right? give it a watch
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