Clone Wars: Thumbs up or down?

[OSCORP]

My hope is that with Battlestar Galactica setting the bar so high for new SciFi that whoever is in charge of the SW series will take notice and give us something SW fans can actually be proud of.

 

[FQRizzo]

My hope is that with Battlestar Galactica setting the bar so high for new SciFi that whoever is in charge of the SW series will take notice and give us something SW fans can actually be proud of.

Do you think GL is going to want the same tone in this series as Battlestar? One can hope, but I doubt it.

 

[icruise]

I don't think the tone of BSG would fit in the Star Wars universe.

 

[OSCORP]

From everything I've heard it's SUPPOSED to be more edgy, darker and grittier and deal with that side of the universe. (both IMPS and Rebels their POV) We shall see, and one can only hope.

 

[Agent0028]

I don't really see how anyone over the age of 14 could be into this. I love the OT, I like the PT, but this was kiddie junk to me.

Well that was really why I gave it a thumbs up because to me it is supposed to be for kids. Not adults. I know Star Wars has a huge fan base, but I think the number of Star Wars fans who would watch a cartoon about it is pretty small and limited to geeks like us who buy Star Wars dolls and talk about them on message boards. So I think the number of kids who will watch a Star Wars cartoon, fan or not, is greater. Kids will also succumb to peer pressure and start watching it because others are. So I think they got the target audience right, even if us fanboys are devastated. As for it being bad...I can't help but feel like most of the stuff they watch is bad. After spending the entire weekend with my little cousins and watching Pokemon, Drake and Josh, the Suite life, etc. I was starting to think of ways to "accidently" break the TV.

 

[Rook]

From everything I've heard it's SUPPOSED to be more edgy, darker and grittier and deal with that side of the universe. (both IMPS and Rebels their POV) We shall see, and one can only hope.

Of course, ROTS was described by Lucas as being darker and grittier than his previous offerings...

 

[OSCORP]

Drake and Josh,.

That was part of my point in saying even if i was a kid i would not like this. (kids today have it far much worse with their childhood viewings cartoon-wise than we did IMO)

I got to watch transformers, gijoe, He-man, voltron, spider-man and friends, and many others. Hell you gotta SEARCH your ass off to find porky pig or Yosemite sam. My kid would never see any of this if i didn't buy it!

Yes clone wars is for kids. That's why i say i don't see how anyone over 14 can be into this hardcore. But it's not even good kids viewing, it's like bratz meets star wars. (total new age) I am glad if kids like it though, it brings em into the universe. Just seems like any "Magic" SW had is long gone. (i guess i keep hoping it will somehow comeback) And i don't think you gotta be a kid to experience that.

My daughter finds SW boring (she's 6) I want to wait to show her the OT again when she's around 9 or 10. (i think she would see/understand/experience the "magic" more at that age)

 

[adambadadam]

That was part of my point in saying even if i was a kid i would not like this. (kids today have it far much worse with their childhood viewings cartoon-wise than we did IMO)

I got to watch transformers, gijoe, He-man, voltron, spider-man and friends, and many others. Hell you gotta SEARCH your ass off to find porky pig or Yosemite sam. My kid would never see any of this if i didn't buy it!

Yes clone wars is for kids. That's why i say i don't see how anyone over 14 can be into this hardcore. But it's not even good kids viewing, it's like bratz meets star wars. (total new age) I am glad if kids like it though, it brings em into the universe. Just seems like any "Magic" SW had is long gone. (i guess i keep hoping it will somehow comeback) And i don't think you gotta be a kid to experience that.

My daughter finds SW boring (she's 6) I want to wait to show her the OT again when she's around 9 or 10. (i think she would see/understand/experience the "magic" more at that age)

And I guess my point to you is people like yourself are trying to re-live your adolesence through your children instead of letting them decide what is "magic" and what isn't. When the original OT came out, were adults trying to tell you why to like Star Wars? No, you did a fine job of figuring it out for yourself. On the other hand, quite abit of the "older" establishment in Hollywood thought it was garbage up until the point of seeing how much money could be made off it by ripping off it's style. And that hallowed Empire movie fanboys like to piss in ther pants about being the BEST of the SWTrilogy was hardly that at the time. Only after a good period of time was it not lauded as being ridicolous for it's "stupid green muppet" and philosophical nonsense describing the "force"! The OT was revolutionary for it's time due to it's techinical achievements, the story was NOT original, just timeless.

With regard to Star Wars, I'd suggest you let your daughter make up her own mind about what to like and why. No matter how many times you set her down and make her watch it, your OT will always be just that to her, an OLD Trilogy!

 

[FQRizzo]

And I guess my point to you is people like yourself are trying to re-live your adolesence through your children instead of letting them decide what is "magic" and what isn't. When the original OT came out, were adults trying to tell you why to like Star Wars? Quite abit of the older establishment of Hollywood thought it was garbage up until the point of seeing how much money could be made off it by ripping off it's style. And that hallowed Empire movie fanboys like to piss in ther pants about being the BEST of the SWTrilogy was hardly that at the time. Only after a good period of time was it not lauded as being ridicolous for it's "stupid green muppet" and philosophical nonsense describing the "force"! The OT was revolutionary for it's time due to it's techinical achievements, the story was NOT original, just timeless.

With regard to Star Wars, I'd suggest you let your daughter make up her own mind about what to like and why. Your OT will always be just that to her, an OLD Trilogy!

Well said.

I think, Krayt, that when you say that even if you were a kid, you still wouldn't have liked Clone Wars, you are not taking into account that you grew up in a different time. Compared to the crap that is on TV now, CW is a lot better. Yes, we grew up with He-man, GI Joe, and Transformers; but if that stuff just came out now who knows what we would think of it.

 

[OSCORP]

And I guess my point to you is people like yourself are trying to re-live your adolesence through your children instead of letting them decide what is "magic" and what isn't. When the original OT came out, were adults trying to tell you why to like Star Wars? Quite abit of the older establishment of Hollywood thought it was garbage up until the point of seeing how much money could be made off it by ripping off it's style. And that hallowed Empire movie fanboys like to piss in ther pants about being the BEST of the SWTrilogy was hardly that at the time. Only after a good period of time was it not lauded as being ridicolous for it's "stupid green muppet" and philosophical nonsense describing the "force"! The OT was revolutionary for it's time due to it's techinical achievements, the story was NOT original, just timeless.

With regard to Star Wars, I'd suggest you let your daughter make up her own mind about what to like and why. No matter how many times you set her down and make her watch it, your OT will always be just that to her, an OLD Trilogy!

HAHA i knew a response like this was coming.
Not at all. I'm not trying to relive anything, i don't force anything on my daughter i DO let her decide what she likes and what she don't. (i just plant seeds) How obnoxious of you to presume otherwise. I don't make her watch anything, i don't even think she's sat through an entire SW movie. Just cause you like it fine, but don't pretend others have faults cause they don't.

In the words of Nute gunray "you assssssummme too much"

Magic is magic. i feel it when i watch the new LOTR movies. Some things just have it and some don't.

Well said.

I think, Krayt, that when you say that even if you were a kid, you still wouldn't have liked Clone Wars, you are not taking into account that you grew up in a different time. Compared to the crap that is on TV now, CW is a lot better. Yes, we grew up with He-man, GI Joe, and Transformers; but if that stuff just came out now who knows what we would think of it.

Good is good bro! I don't think we have to always be looking through the lens of a child to figure that out!!

If he-man and voltron and that ^^^^ was out today i think kids would LOVE it! (thats up for debate sure but my gut tells me they would) I just see a general decline in almost everything...movies TV and music especially but that's a different topic.

 

[FQRizzo]

Good is good bro! I don't think we have to always be looking through the lens of a child to figure that out!!

If he-man and voltron and that ^^^^ was out today i think kids would LOVE it! (thats up for debate sure but my gut tells me they would) I just see a general decline in almost everything...movies TV and music especially but that's a different topic.

Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll wager that you were a different person 10-15 years ago, as was I.

Oh well.

 

[OSCORP]

Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll wager that you were a different person 10-15 years ago, as was I.

Oh well.

Somewhat, but the core is still there.

 

[adambadadam]

Well Krayt, I will agree with that LOTR is magic, but is it necessarily appropriate for your 6yr old daughter??? She's at the age for fairy tales, sure but I think LOTR may be just alittle too violent and dark at this point

You still don't convince me that you've made an adequate point. Star Wars and LOTR are 2 birds of different colors.

I think you and people like yourself keep using LOTR (film-wise) as example because that is something you experienced and enjoyed as an adult. Keyword being "adult" and/or later stages of your sensory overloaded life, and that's fine but your comparing a perspective you had from a few years ago to a perspective you had from 30 years ago and still cannot manage to let go of.

 

[OSCORP]

Well Krayt, I will agree with that LOTR is magic, but is it necessarily appropriate for your 6yr old daughter??? She's at the age for fairy tales, sure but I think LOTR may be just alittle too violent and dark at this point

You still don't convince me that you've made an adequate point. Star Wars and LOTR are 2 birds of different colors.

I think you and people like yourself keep using LOTR (film-wise) as example because that is something you experienced and enjoyed as an adult. Keyword being "adult", and that's fine but your comparing a perspective you had a few years ago to a perspective you had 30 years ago and still cannot manage to let go of.

Yes i think LOTR is appropriate. My kid handles it just fine. (all kids are different.)

Again i think you lumping me into a class you're familiar with, believe me when i say i'm not. Again i think you assume too much!

 

[adambadadam]

Yes i think LOTR is appropriate. My kid handles it just fine. (all kids are different.)

Again i think you lumping me into a class you're familiar with, believe me when i say i'm not. Again i think you assume too much!

I'm assuming to take you at your word! If I'm to believe that your a father and to have lived enough life on this Earth to pay a mortgage and put food on the table, how could you even begin to compare the 2 (SW/LOTR)??? I readily admit to editing my previous response to include a swipe about "sensory overload" but not as direct insult. My point is before SW, what did we have to compare it to??? 2001, Planet of the Apes??? What??? We had never seen anything like that before! Now fast forward 30yrs what's left Don't think I dislike Jackson, but even he did a "Special Edition" job on Tolkien's largely original work. It's like HD tv's...no matter how much they claim they've improved it 1080p/8.10 channel sound, ect, ect, there will come a point when your eyes and ears can only decipher so much.

All of this continues to bring me to the conclusion that SW fans as a majority, have just become selfish, spoiled, greedy bastards that can't have SW, or allow anyone else to enjoy SW any other way than how they remember it. It also classifies them as a "Sybil" type personality because no one can agree/remember what they like best about SW.

At least Star Trek offered a little something different for every type of fan.

I sure hope we're better than this and I'm wrong about it.

Oh yeah, to you too!

 

[OSCORP]

It is what it is, an opinion.

But don't come here with presumed explanations of why you think it is how i think.

Weak sauce!

 

[bidge1000]

2 thumbs way way up!

some other people should perhaps take their thumbs out of places where they are not really meant to go and just enjoy the fun!

D:chew:chew

 

[adambadadam]

It is what it is, an opinion.

But don't come here with presumed explanations of why you think it is how i think.

Weak sauce!

"Weak sauce" is when you won't meet in the arena of ideas. I'm just drawing a logical conclusion from what you stated and you've dodged my questions. I'm just challenging you to explain your opinion better, I'm not saying I would call DFS on you

...but my lunch break is over and this is work time for me, so please permit me a likewise exit and we'll pick this back up later if your so inclined.

 

[blackcoatcowboy]

ADULTS: Thumbs Down

CHILDREN: Thumbs Up

 

[Blackhole]

The movie was a thumbs in the middle, but the more I watch the TV series, the more awesome it's getting...