Premium Format Colossus PF

[darren1228]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

See that the main problem, they concentrate on 1/5 scalem comiquettes and have PFs as the only available format in 1/4 scale. It's too bad because having a Spidey com and Spidey PF was great for the diversity of the hobby. While the Spidey, Venom, Carnage trio was awesome.

It may be a problem to you as a customer but how is this a problem for Sideshow? Your suggestions are completely disregarding economics. Sure it would be great for customers if they produced 1/4 PFs, 1/4 Comiquettes, 1:1 PFs, 1:1 Comiquettes but do you seriously think that would ever happen?

 

[xYx]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

One of the best used cloth on Marvel pieces so far is Gambit PF and Black Panther PF.

I have to respectfully disagree with you there Fuzz.

 

[NorthernLadMSP]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

That is flawed logic..Any company with the slightest business sense should be aware that you should always cater to your customers' demands and concerns because without us, SS would be making statues for themselves and go out of business. They're making statue for us..the paying customers, not for themselves. If so many collectors are complaining about the cheap & inappropriate fabric being used on some PF's then there really is a problem here that needs to be rectified. A good company should always be willing to listen to its customers complaints and constantly try to improve their product for obvious reasons.

As a side note, by recently bombarding DCD with complaints and criticism regarding their upcoming Catwoman PF..we got them to alter and improve the prototype from this:

to this:

We'd never have managed this with the absurd "its just the way it is so you might as well just buy whatever they spit out" mentality

Excellent post Leonidas!!!

 

[Phil Sierra]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

For this particular PF I actually like this pose for him because he is standing tall and you get the full on height of Colossus versus a crouching or slouched pose.

 

[darren1228]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

That is flawed logic..Any company with the slightest business sense should be aware that you should always cater to your customers' demands and concerns because without us, SS would be making statues for themselves and go out of business. They're making statue for us..the paying customers, not for themselves. If so many collectors are complaining about the cheap & inappropriate fabric being used on some PF's then there really is a problem here that needs to be rectified. A good company should always be willing to listen to its customers complaints and constantly try to improve their product for obvious reasons.

Umm no your logic is flawed. Name me one company out their that caters to every complaint by their customers? You talk as if the majority of collectors hate the PF style and Sideshow just chooses to ignore everyone. Do you think Sideshow would be stupid enough to continue with this style if the majority of collectors hated the line and no one was buying them?

The easiest way to let Sideshow know about your displeasure is to simply not buy the product. Why would Sideshow take the time to change anything when customers like you complain like crazy about their product and still end up buying it?

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

I have to respectfully disagree with you there Fuzz.

That was a nice one there too.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

See that the main problem, they concentrate on 1/5 scale comiquettes and have PFs as the only available format in 1/4 scale. It's too bad because having a Spidey com and Spidey PF was great for the diversity of the hobby. While the Spidey, Venom, Carnage trio was awesome.

Some guys are never satisfied.

I dont wanna start anything but i recall a whole lot of '1/4 or fail' and 'PF or fail' comments in the Comiquette thread and now that you are getting what you want you're still griping about the 1/5 scale.

Just cos you don't like it doesn't mean it shouldnt be there.

 

[JosephCPR]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Have you considered that Sideshow and a lot of collectors don't think it is bad? This is clearly the style that Sideshow is going with for their Marvel PFs. Why are people are so offended and disappointed when this kind of style is expected from Sideshow?

Well, if you think this is the best Sideshow could come out with, then I guess there isn't much else to discuss

I personally love PFs, I have never had any problem with the use of cloth on sculpted pieces, BUT I just believe they could have put a little more effort on the piece's costume. That's all.

 

[quadcent]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

yeah lots of people wanted a larger piece, but don't forget the bigger they are, the harder they are to display. at 24" he's not gonna fit into any display cabinets. not even Besta i doubt.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

U love it cant wait for it tower over the other pfs !!!

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Well, if you think this is the best Sideshow could come out with, then I guess there isn't much else to discuss

I personally love PFs, I have never had any problem with the use of cloth on sculpted pieces, BUT I just believe they could have put a little more effort on the piece's costume. That's everything.

I agree, occlusion of all his muscular definition aside, the costuming doesn't even look well done.

 

[Leonidas]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Umm no your logic is flawed. Name me one company out their that caters to every complaint by their customers? You talk as if the majority of collectors hate the PF style and Sideshow just chooses to ignore everyone. Do you think Sideshow would be stupid enough to continue with this style if the majority of collectors hated the line and no one was buying them?

The easiest way to let Sideshow know about your displeasure is to simply not buy the product. Why would Sideshow take the time to change anything when customers like you complain like crazy about their product and still end up buying it?

Your logic is flawed, bro. True, companies shouldn't listen to to every complaint but there are enough complaints from customers, in this case, about the unsuitable fabric being used on some PF's to suggest that the complaint is valid and should be addressed and rectified.
Everything is temporary in the business world, my friend, and competition is fierce. Nothing should be taken for granted since competition is always trying to take your place. A company that is on top of the industry today could easily find itself out of business a couple of years from now if it rests on its laurels, takes its customers for granted and refuses to acknowledge valid complaints and make improvements upon their products all while hiking up prices to absurd levels...that is how many companies wrote their own death sentence in the business world

 

[peedi]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Have you thought on the possibility that people might not be complaining about the use of cloth per se...but about the bad use SS sometimes makes of it??

Yes, but we (or at least I) we'rent talking about those complaining about the implemenation of the cloth. We were talking about the people who complain about cloth.

Well as long as they do an alternative fully sculpted Colossus in 1/4 scale that's fine. Win-win for those that love the cloth format and fully sculpted and some may even get both.

One of the best used cloth on Marvel pieces so far is Gambit PF and Black Panther PF.

That'd be nice, but we know SS generally doesn't do that. Spidey is an exception, but he was made to match Venom & Carnage, who couldn't be done as PF so they are 1/4 coms (like Surfer and any Iron Man). If Spidey wasn't intended as a set with Venom & Carnage, best believe he'd be 1/5.

That is flawed logic..Any company with the slightest business sense should be aware that you should always cater to your customers' demands and concerns because without us, SS would be making statues for themselves and go out of business. They're making statue for us..the paying customers, not for themselves. If so many collectors are complaining about the cheap & inappropriate fabric being used on some PF's then there really is a problem here that needs to be rectified. A good company should always be willing to listen to its customers complaints and constantly try to improve their product for obvious reasons.

I see and fully agree with the point you made with Catwoman Leonidas, but I think Catwoman is a little different from what darren1228 meant. With Catwoman, they improved the peice within the same format. What me and darren are saying is that if SS produces PFs with cloth, why expect them to do something different and be upset when they don't? I think Catwoman goes back to what JosephCPR is saying about the use of that mixed media (and paint/overall look in that case), wherein any opinion is valid, because it is just that, an opinion.

But I agree, people need to beg SSC for more 1/4 fully sculpted if that's what they want, just like people complained about Catwoman. But sales trump complaints any day. That's a company with business sense. Cater to the dollars. They don't need every unit to sell out to meet their financial goals.

As much as I enjoy this board and the debates we might get into here (because I don't argue, I reason!), we have to realize there are many people NOT on any board who are buying and loving these things, cloth and all, so the complaints amongst our group to each other might not always be the majority opinion.

 

[RustyTristane]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

It's ok, but I think he would look better looking forward instead of down. Also I don't really care about the character all that much. So it's an easy pass.

 

[VS1976]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

I would love it if SSC made a true 1:4 Iron Man PF

 

[darren1228]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Your logic is flawed, bro. True, companies shouldn't listen to to every complaint but there are enough complaints from customers, in this case, about the unsuitable fabric being used on some PF's to suggest that the complaint is valid and should be addressed and rectified.
Everything is temporary in the business world, my friend, and competition is fierce. Nothing should be taken for granted since competition is always trying to take your place. A company that is on top of the industry today could easily find itself out of business a couple of years from now if it rests on its laurels, takes its customers for granted and refuses to acknowledge valid complaints and make improvements upon their products all while hiking up prices to absurd levels...that is how many companies wrote their own death sentence in the business world

Show me definitive proof of that and I'll give you a million dollars.

Take a look at the EX head for the Cyclops PF. I could've sworn that 95% of comments were negative for that piece. Did Sideshow do anything about it? Did it sell out?

How Sideshow chooses to run their business is up to them. I really doubt they need a lesson from you on how to run their business. Running a business is not as simple as pleasing the customer 100% of the time. Like Peedi said....sales > complaints simple as that.

 

[thomasbierzynski0524]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

I would love it if SSC made a true 1:4 Iron Man PF

Which part will be cloth?

 

[VS1976]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Which part will be cloth?

His underwear All metal baby

 

[BatFanatic]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

This would have been a sure thing for me, except for the fabric factor. Not that it's cheap, it just looks flimsy. Some interfacing between layers would stiffen up the chest-wing portion and make it look somewhat sturdy or durable.

 

[peedi]

Re: Colossus PF Sneak Peek

Which part will be cloth?

Somehow C-3PO and R2-D2 will be PFs, so I'm sure they could figure it out. Although "Premium Format Figure" is the branding SS uses, these are mixed media statues, so they techinically don't have to be cloth, as long as the media is mixed.

Until then, Classic IM Com is my "1/4" Iron Man PF (he does seem a bit small in pics next to Cap). He's got more cloth in that flag than a few PFs have in their costumes.