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Never said I was one to stay down on something very long. :lol

I'm still not totally sold by anymeans. My thinking is much like Dave's in that the might not be able to do Yoda by himself and this may be my only chance to get him. If that is the case then I will get this for sure becayuse I want a Yoda PF piece in my collection.
 
spaceman said:
Awesome idea, but Unfortunately impossible.

For magnets to repel, they must be anti-aligned, i.e. North-to-North or South-to-South. But, this is unstable, as the magnet will desire to flip 180 degrees, at which point they will attract, not repel. There are some cool toys that get arount this by including a spinning effect (a floating top). Angular momentum of the spinning object stabilizes against flipping over, and the magnetic repulsion can be maintained ... until wind resistance slows the top down. The upshot is, that you some mechanical support either way. :lecture OR a superconductor ... I fear this is outside even PF buck-range :D

That's why I said it would be a production nightmare.

Noble collection did it with those Harry Potter pens didn't they? I thought they worked with magnets.:confused:

I imagine there is a solution somewhere, but it would probably be very expensive, and as you said out of the realm of PF. My initial thought for it would be to have more than one magnet in the base (probably three) and only one in the rock. This way you would have multiple magnetic fields acting in concert to keep the rock centered and stable between the three. Just a thought. I have a pretty good idea how magnets work, especially the supercons. Did I mention I am an MRI supervisor and taught radiation physics on the university level?:D :monkey1

:bow Thanks for complimenting the idea though!
 
LOTRFan said:
My ideal pose - a rarely seen shot of Yoda between takes :lol :lol :lol .

That's the Yoda I want!!! :lol

Wish someone would do a 1:1 Film-accurate replica prop puppet, I'd buy it!
 
LOTRFan said:
My ideal pose - a rarely seen shot of Yoda between takes :lol :lol :lol .

" Hmmm.... Cappucinno, this is. Not Moca"

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LOTRFan said:
Perhaps it seems odd, but yes I would have preferred it to be solo. SS could have incorporated a taller base, but Yoda solitary with cane is what I would have liked. This is a nice piece, and certainly a great moment from the OT, but if I had my druthers ... well I said it.

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but GG already has a bust of this. I think it is great and you can find it for about $25. Why would SS do the exact same thing?
 
Darth Loki said:
I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but GG already has a bust of this. I think it is great and you can find it for about $25. Why would SS do the exact same thing?

Because, as good as GG is, SS can do it much better. :)
 
You can see just from the details on the arms and torso that there is some incredible detail on this piece. I'm in the "not Luke again so soon!" school, but I think once more pics are shown people are going to be won over and this will be one of the hottest SW PFs they make.
 
What do you guys think of the likeness?

I think they could have done a much better job; especially with Yoda, who has iconic features that I thought would be easier to replicate than the human face.

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Promising, considering it's a proto. No doubt the finished product will be even better. Just like the previous four have been.
 
Darklord Dave said:
You can see just from the details on the arms and torso that there is some incredible detail on this piece. I'm in the "not Luke again so soon!" school, but I think once more pics are shown people are going to be won over and this will be one of the hottest SW PFs they make.

Agreed. Luke could look better, but I think Yoda looks great. This looks like a Mat Falls sculpt to me. I wish we were getting Fett or the Emperor, but I'll be patient.

I agree that I'll probably look back in a few years and see just how fantastic this piece is. If the base is as good as I think it can be, then we're in for a treat. Hopefully this sort of 2-pack "diorama" will be used in future pieces. R2/3PO is the most logical choice, but I can think of several others that could use the same treatment.
 
JustinLuck said:
What do you guys think of the likeness?

I think they could have done a much better job; especially with Yoda, who has iconic features that I thought would be easier to replicate than the human face.

I think Yoda is spot-on, looks exactly like him.

I hesitate to judge Luke til I can see it from other angles, but just based on this one pic I'd say it's a pretty good likeness, but not quite as good as the 1/6 jedi Luke.
 
I too think Yoda looks great and I am very picky.

Luke needs work.
 
But do you guys see the apparent proportional and shape differences between the sculpted Yoda and puppet Yoda?
 
JustinLuck said:
But do you guys see the apparent proportional and shape differences between the sculpted Yoda and puppet Yoda?

I repeat,

I think Yoda is spot-on, looks exactly like him.
 
JustinLuck said:
But do you guys see the apparent proportional and shape differences between the sculpted Yoda and puppet Yoda?

No. I'd even go so far as to say that it's one of the best SW PF likenesses out there. I'd put it right up there with Obi-Wan and Grievous. Luke's eyes look strange to me though.
 
Yoda looks fine to me too, looks darker like in the PT to me it sorta seems like a blending of the two. Which I like because the thing I dislike most about PT Yoda is he doesn't really look like a younger OT Yoda. Especially TPM's puppet... I think the angle is what is throwing off the Hamill likeness, but I could be wrong.

Looking at my vanity I can do two PF's deep when the bases are like Han and Lukes. So I can do them like this.

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But I'm worried about it looking crowded...what do you guys think deal with the crowded issue and buy anyways until I am out on my own and can have a really nice display?
 
Hey DarthRage,

Cool, it sounds like we have some common background. :peace

Darth Rage said:
Noble collection did it with those Harry Potter pens didn't they? I thought they worked with magnets.:confused:

These are interesting! - I had never seen them. I googled them to check what you were talking about. They do certainly seem to use magnets for the levitation, but note that one end of the pen is physically touching the base -- I think that is the loophole.

Darth Rage said:
I imagine there is a solution somewhere, but it would probably be very expensive, and as you said out of the realm of PF. My initial thought for it would be to have more than one magnet in the base (probably three) and only one in the rock. This way you would have multiple magnetic fields acting in concert to keep the rock centered and stable between the three. Just a thought. I have a pretty good idea how magnets work, especially the supercons. Did I mention I am an MRI supervisor and taught radiation physics on the university level?:D :monkey1

:bow Thanks for complimenting the idea though!

Definitely - I think it's a fantastic idea from an aesthetic point of view.

The superconductor scenario I was referring to is an example of the Meissner Effect where a (non-permanently magnetized) superconductor rejectss any external field in an extreme implementation of Faraday's law. The superconductor is then placed on top of a permanent magnet. Surface currents are induced to expel the external field, which results in a secondary field in direct opposition to the primary, and a net repulsion. This one was originally suggested as a joke.

I did a little more looking around on the topic though, to double check my intuition/memory. As usual, Wikipedia has an excellent article. It confirms that there is no way (even in principle) to set up a *stable* equilibrium with only static magnetic fields. There will always be a tendency to flip, or accelerate to the side, from just the smallest random jitter - Like trying to balance a pencil on the tip. But they do mention some interesting alternate scenarios.

This is an example of the spin-stabilized motion I was referring to, which is not practical here.

But the MOST interesting
thing I found has to do with alternating fields produced by dual coils carrying AC current. This will apparently suspend a conducting ball stably, in a manner somewhat similar to the Superconducting effect mentioned previously. But here, since the external field is continuously changing, a persistent current can be set up even in a normal conductor (with non-zero resistance). I think this could possibly (would need a bit more reading/research/consideration of overheating dangers, etc.) feasible for a sculpture implementation. There is nothing complicated about the circuitry at all. We are already plugging these things into the wall for saber effects, so why not? I doubt the rock could be made to float very high practically, but even just a quarter inch would be very impressive, especially once you noticed that it is freely turning with no material contact whatsoever.

So - Maybe it could be fantastic! :cool:
 
Awesome info spaceman. I may have to pick up one of these Harry Potter pens to see exactly how they work. It may be the shape of the pen that lends itself to this as well, it probably does spin a bit.

That last example is extremely interesting. It's good that the liquid nitrogen is optional for this experiment! Can you imagine not only producing a collectible with liquid nitrogen, but shipping and maintaining it?:lol
 
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