Daredevil Born Again (Disney+) - March 4, 2025

[crows]

the punisher show was pretty boring

 

[chrisstbh]

Punisher isn’t bad, it’s just nowhere near as good as Daredevil. None of the other Marvel Netflix shows are.

Punishers best moments are in Daredevil.

Still a good watch though, but Jigsaw was weak.

 

[crows]

Punisher isn’t bad, it’s just nowhere near as good as Daredevil. None of the other Marvel Netflix shows are.

Punishers best moments are in Daredevil.

Still a good watch though, but Jigsaw was weak.

punisher show spent way too much time on that special agent woman. too much. and jigsaw was annoying.

 

[ironwez20]

Punisher should be the villain in Spiderman 4.

 

[jye4ever]

Punisher should be the villain in Spiderman 4.

Kingpin

And add the Punisher lol

 

[Mondragon]

.... and jigsaw was annoying.

The main villain's face scarred for life, is a trope as old as dirt, yet when it works it works.
Jigsaw, needed to be properly jigsawed.

Literally as in both physically and mentally, yes the pulps and comics often did things blatantly on the nose, with themed names and visuals, that's part of what made them memorable and iconic, like with the costumes themes and logos of Superheroes. To often seems the show runners don't actually like the source material they are adapting, and think they are above it.

 

[SpiderBat]

The only thing I really didn't like about S1 of Punisher was tying the plot into his family's murders. They already convoluted the murders in DD with the undercover sting operation stuff, they didn't need to add yet another layer to it. Should've just had the plot be about Frank finding out that his military unit got up to some pretty nasty stuff, that he was lied to about his missions, making him complicit in it, and Frank wanting revenge for it (with an underlining suggestion that it's all just an excuse for him to start fighting again).

S2 was... okay. I think it got stuck in an awkward position wherein they already greenlit it but Netflix wanted to move on from their Marvel shows by the time it started production, so nobody really cared and the budget got slashed to ribbons. I'll always like Jigsaw's final scene, though, where

Spoiler

Jigsaw tries to have a final bonding moment with Frank but Frank just casually shoots him and walks away.

 

[chrisstbh]

Into Season 2 now. God I hate Elektra. I hope she is really dead and doesn’t come back in this show.

 

[twistedfreak]

The intro to DD is the best series intro in tv history.

Yeah, it is absolutely epic. The visuals, the music. It all just comes together and complements what is to come.

 

[The Entity]

Re-watching Punisher season 1.

I remember liking it with some complaints that it was a little slow and my own pet peeve that he is too small for the part but I will say this on the rewatch his intensity and acting abilities makes up for his small stature, plus his broken nose goes a long way making him the Punisher we all love to love lol

Season 2 I’m staying away from that is unanimously hated, it was bad.

I only watched S2 of The Punisher for the first time a month or so ago. While it didn't reach the level the first season did, I can't say I hated it. I did think it felt a bit directionless at times. Like they didn't know what way the story was going. For instance, we got quite a bit of backstory on Alexa Davalos' character in the first episode, only to never see her again after a brief appearance in episode 2. She isn't an A-list actress but she isn't a nobody either, so I figured she'd be back at some point but nope... Never seen again.

The main villain's face scarred for life, is a trope as old as dirt, yet when it works it works.
Jigsaw, needed to be properly jigsawed.

I truly felt like "is this it" when Jigsaw removed his mask for the first time and he basically has some scratches. He's still a pretty boy. The whole idea about the scars mostly being mentally, didn't really work.

 

[chrisstbh]

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/daredevil-born-again-violence-way-past-netflix-exclusive/

 

[Mondragon]

Love the show and character, but man how much unnecessary overwrought crap can they pile onto that suit, costume "designer" really wants you to know it's all about them.

Feel like they raided a 90s eXtreme BMX/Thrasher kids closet. Does DD also ride a longboard?

 

[kfcolt1911]

The only thing I really didn't like about S1 of Punisher was tying the plot into his family's murders. They already convoluted the murders in DD with the undercover sting operation stuff, they didn't need to add yet another layer to it. Should've just had the plot be about Frank finding out that his military unit got up to some pretty nasty stuff, that he was lied to about his missions, making him complicit in it, and Frank wanting revenge for it (with an underlining suggestion that it's all just an excuse for him to start fighting again).

S2 was... okay. I think it got stuck in an awkward position wherein they already greenlit it but Netflix wanted to move on from their Marvel shows by the time it started production, so nobody really cared and the budget got slashed to ribbons. I'll always like Jigsaw's final scene, though, where

Spoiler

Jigsaw tries to have a final bonding moment with Frank but Frank just casually shoots him and walks away.

I don’t think Netflix wanted to move away from the marvel stuff, it was a big hit for them. I’m pretty sure Disney revoked the rights after launching Disney + to weaken the competition.

I feel like they was saving Jigsaw for season 3 until they found out they wasn’t getting a season 3 so they condensed season 2+3 into one. The Russo storyline for the most part has very little to do with Frank and imo the weakest part of that season.

That final scene was cold tho

 

[KitbashOfficer]

Love the show and character, but man how much unnecessary overwrought crap can they pile onto that suit, costume "designer" really wants you to know it's all about them.

Feel like they raided a 90s eXtreme BMX/Thrasher kids closet. Does DD also ride a longboard?

"I'm not wearing Hockey Pads!"

I think it looks much improved over previous iterations. I'll be buying this as a HT figure if they make it. Would you showed there (while funny) is what I would expect them to for Night Thrasher (lord, I hope they do better than that). My preference for Daredevil would be to go the BvS Batman style design. Think of that in Red, DD in place of Bat symbol.

 

[chrisstbh]

I like the new suit design. I just miss the darker red and maybe the little pieces of armour on the shoulders.

 

[davejames]

Not sure yet about the brighter red, but I think the suit looks fine otherwise. But honestly when Cox was doing his Daredevil thing before I never paid much attention to the suit then either. And the helmet was always doing 95% of the work on screen.

 

[crows]

at least is red. I don't like the black outfit or the yellow one.
he always needs to be red.

 

[jye4ever]

Finished Punisher S1.

Another masterpiece.

Super intense character deep dives that I did not appreciate 8 years ago which is nuts because I was an adult 8 years ago lol

What I thought was slow, tedious and boring 8 years ago is now in my current frame of mind a super intense slow burn that was thought provoking and thrilling.

Absolutely spectacular character interactions and arcs.

I can confidently say now that he is a great Punisher!

I thought the outcome to Billy Russo at the end of season 1 was perfectly brutal.

I couldn’t have asked for anything more, which makes me totally OK with accepting his origin change from the comics.

Screw that season 2 though not even my current frame of mind is accepting that ridiculous Jigsaw lol

 

[crows]

Finished Punisher S1.

Another masterpiece.

Super intense character deep dives that I did not appreciate 8 years ago which is nuts because I was an adult 8 years ago lol

What I thought was slow, tedious and boring 8 years ago is now in my current frame of mind a super intense slow burn that was thought provoking and thrilling.

Absolutely spectacular character interactions and arcs.

I can confidently say now that he is a great Punisher!

I thought the outcome to Billy Russo at the end of season 1 was perfectly brutal.

I couldn’t have asked for anything more, which makes me totally OK with accepting his origin change from the comics.

Screw that season 2 though not even my current frame of mind is accepting that ridiculous Jigsaw lol

the scenes with that agent woman are still terrible.

 

[jye4ever]

the scenes with that agent woman are still terrible.

But she was hot so i’m good lol