Daredevil scrapped with issue #512
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So, typical comic book gimmick. End a long-running comic and start a new one in a few months with issue number 1 (where presumably the hero will find "redemption" for whatever this shadowland business is, or will be "reborn" somehow, possibly with a new person taking on the personae or with him wearing a new outfit) in order to temporarily increase hype and boost sales.
Yawn.
Yawn.
Chigger58
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It's a trap!
Fanboy
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While that's been commonplace for such a long time, it's even more annoying now with the new trend. Launch the new book to boost the sales with a new #1 issue, then a year or so into the run, go back to the original numbering in order to try an up the sales on the anniversary issue. In that same article they mention going back to original numbering on Ultimate Spider-Man, just in time for the 104 page 150th issue.
The other annoying trend I've seen starting lately is take the character out of his own solo book and continue it with another character, then relaunch the original character in another new title.
I so miss the days when the "all new" direction for a character would just be part of a continuing story line with the original numbering.
BatFanatic
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I quit collecting several (all) titles because of this BS.
Death to ALL the writers that have conspired.
Death to ALL the writers that have conspired.
Daredevil has been lingering around #40-50 for years. They'll kill the book in November and relaunch it with a brand new #1. DD will shoot right up to the top (or closer to it) for a few months because folks will see the #1 and maybe stick around (usually not, but you bought it anyway).
This is how Marvel comics makes money from their characters. They've done this for years and years...and it works.
This is how Marvel comics makes money from their characters. They've done this for years and years...and it works.
Thought the gimmicks do suck, I have to admit that some of the writers going today are good enough to make it work. For instance, if a Geoff Johns does something that on its surface sounds retarded (like the "full color spectrum of lanterns" stuff), it works! These aren't a bunch of Alan Moores running around, but lest we forget, there were a lot of horrible comics and stories in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, times when the gimmicks were more quaint (put Wolverine on the cover to every comic released this month; do another Batman cross-over; release a huge "annual" edition to boost sales; etc.).
thenammagazine
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Someone needs to shoot Quesada. He's been nothing but poison to the Marvel universe.
Actually the huge number speaks to why American comics have become so awful. They are written to never end, as in never stop making money. Rather than seek to tell a good story, you know one with a beginning, middle and end, American comics degrade into this undying institution no better than Beetle Bailey or Apartment 3-G. Compare that with manga series that actually have real, meaningful ends even if they could have gone on and on. Further good storytelling has to have the potential of real consequences, but as someone at DC sneered once, Marvel put a revolving door on heaven.
For several decades comics got better, but only because a more liberal, sophisticated society allowed them to actually write about increasingly mature concepts and/or complex, multi-thread plots. Superhero comics stalled in the early 1990's (the fifty cover variants of X-Men No.1 being a good point of decline) and with a few exceptions like the Ultimate universe never have been good since.
For several decades comics got better, but only because a more liberal, sophisticated society allowed them to actually write about increasingly mature concepts and/or complex, multi-thread plots. Superhero comics stalled in the early 1990's (the fifty cover variants of X-Men No.1 being a good point of decline) and with a few exceptions like the Ultimate universe never have been good since.
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There is also a possibility that they are just going to actually cancel Daredevil due to poor sales as opposed to making a stunt move. They obviously will bring him back someday, but honestly if the sales are low these days they really don't have to continue just for the sake of continuing. They scrapped Ms. Marvel's book since the Heroic Age, and one day obviously she's gonna have her own book again. But her run for now is over and Marvel is not pulling a stunt here, just poor sales so it's canned, that simple. You'll probably still see Daredevil in some of the Avengers books out there, possibly re gaining his popularity in some other way, until there is enough fan demand for a new Daredevil book or a new continuation of the old one.
Randy_S
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The important thing to take from the article is that there will be a Thunderstrike mini-series. 
cokebabies
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This is going to show my extreme ignorance of actual comic issues but I've only collected TPBs and HCs for well over fifteen years now...
The Daredevil book that used to be written by Bendis and is now written by Brubaker, what is the official name of that book? The latest collection only had up to issue 119, so it's obviously a different book.
I thought that was the regular Daredevil title, but I'm assuming there are two?
The Daredevil book that used to be written by Bendis and is now written by Brubaker, what is the official name of that book? The latest collection only had up to issue 119, so it's obviously a different book.
I thought that was the regular Daredevil title, but I'm assuming there are two?
FLOSI
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Marvel is pure ____. Better to take the 3-4 bucks per issue and go to the back issue bin and pick up some old silver age goodness.
For example:
Would you rather spend 4 bucks on this or 4 bucks reinforcing the fact that Joe Quesada is making great choices as the Editor and Chief of Marvel?
For example:
Would you rather spend 4 bucks on this or 4 bucks reinforcing the fact that Joe Quesada is making great choices as the Editor and Chief of Marvel?
thenammagazine
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I wouldn't compare U.S. comics to Anime/Manga. Anime/Manga is often more horrid with simplistic stories that often make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Then there're the filler episodes/issues that are hastily and poorly written solely for the sake of extending the Anime/manga to exploit reader/viewer interest and garner their cash in while the writer's finishing up an episode/book containing the real story. Dragonball GT and the old Full Metal Alchemist series are two blatant examples. Berserker is another example. However, the writer put his foot down and canceled the series. So we'll never see the end because of greed.
That's not to say there aren't good stories. Crying Freeman and Sanctuary enjoyed phenomenal success in Japan due in most part to the author's borrowing of the Western style storytelling.
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Marvel is pure ____. Better to take the 3-4 bucks per issue and go to the back issue bin and pick up some old silver age goodness.
For example:
Would you rather spend 4 bucks on this or 4 bucks reinforcing the fact that Joe Quesada is making great choices as the Editor and Chief of Marvel?
I'd rather buy neither. The classics are all but worthless with the invention of Ebay which all but killed demand and the investment comics once were. Additionally most of those team-up stories are lame with no winner. Just two heroes contemplating on their battle. And buying comics nowadays pollutes the institution telling them that what they're doing is justified.
That said, there are standouts like The Walking Dead who go completely against the grain.
FLOSI
Nerf Herder
Well, that was just a random choice. Trades and GNs are the only way to go.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
Not really. I'll give you GN's but with TPBs, they're gouging there too. Instead of including the whole story, nowadays, they minimize them to 4 issues which don't complete the story arc, still charge the same price, and release the story over several volumes. Same ____, just a little cheaper.
Anton Phibes
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Nailed it right on the head. Instant access to worldwide dealers has killed a lot of things. Its even brought down the value of some of the pf's and comiquettes because someone gets desperate and sells something extremely cheap...then from that point forward everyone expects that price or cheaper. Terrible.
Rook
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Brubaker left the book several issues back - right after Marvel altered the numbering of the book to celebrate the 500th issue of Daredevil. (See explanation above.) It's being written by Matt Fraction now ... and it's suffering for it. The one-two punch of Bendis and Brubaker left the character reeling, and no one else was up to the task of effectively continuing the tale of Matt Murdock. We've instead been left with an over-the-top plot device (Daredevil takes over leadership of The Hand, becomes evil, etc.) that attempts to keep long-time, die-hard readers like me with its massive amounts of testosterone-laden melodrama. Pure shock therapy for readers that doesn't leave a lasting impression.
In short, it doesn't work.
I'm ready to walk the comic book plank.Similar threads
