Darkseid Premium Format Figure

[thedorkknight74]

A lot sure has changed over the years with Sideshow. The trend is really alarming. Remember the day when the statues had weight? The Hulk comiquette was 23.5 inches high and weighed 62 lbs and the sculpt was phenomenal! Not to mention the height was mainly Hulk, as the base he was on was not a large pedestal. That was only $350 with an editions size of 1500, including the EX! Now we have astronomical edition sizes, light weight statues, 10% no return deposits, and having to wait over a year after many delays on majority of their products. One would assume with these trends that prices would be decreasing, or at least stagnating. Not jumping 50+%!! No way can Darkseid's size justify a 50% price increase. He is no more larger than Batman/Superman as Batman/Superman are compared to Wonder Woman....yet those are the same prices. Same height but just a bit thicker body type. Maybe the shade of blue they had to paint Darkseid with is very rare or his core is made out of gold. That could be I suppose. Ugh....this just really sucks, cuz I did want this piece. Now I'm scared to see the price for Aquaman.

 

[sarakawa]

A lot sure has changed over the years with Sideshow. The trend is really alarming. Remember the day when the statues had weight? The Hulk comiquette was 23.5 inches high and weighed 62 lbs and the sculpt was phenomenal! Not to mention the height was mainly Hulk, as the base he was on was not a large pedestal. That was only $350 with an editions size of 1500, including the EX! Now we have astronomical edition sizes, light weight statues, 10% no return deposits, and having to wait over a year after many delays on majority of their products. One would assume with these trends that prices would be decreasing, or at least stagnating. Not jumping 50+%!! No way can Darkseid's size justify a 50% price increase. He is no more larger than Batman/Superman as Batman/Superman are compared to Wonder Woman....yet those are the same prices. Same height but just a bit thicker body type. Maybe the shade of blue they had to paint Darkseid with is very rare or his core is made out of gold. That could be I suppose. Ugh....this just really sucks, cuz I did want this piece. Now I'm scared to see the price for Aquaman.

This is how they roll now. Not to mention the shoddy QC. Even if 80% of their shipments are good, that's still pretty poor considering the kinds of defects we see in pretty much every statue being shipped out by them these days. No doubt Darkseid will be plagued as well...its almost a given. For most of us, we simply don't buy this at this ridiculous price point. I just feel bad for fans of the character who aren't getting what they should for their money.

 

[67L88Stingray]

Price and size/pose are turning me off. I was seriously considering this.

 

[frenchyoutoo]

A lot sure has changed over the years with Sideshow. The trend is really alarming. Remember the day when the statues had weight? The Hulk comiquette was 23.5 inches high and weighed 62 lbs and the sculpt was phenomenal! Not to mention the height was mainly Hulk, as the base he was on was not a large pedestal. That was only $350 with an editions size of 1500, including the EX! Now we have astronomical edition sizes, light weight statues, 10% no return deposits, and having to wait over a year after many delays on majority of their products. One would assume with these trends that prices would be decreasing, or at least stagnating. Not jumping 50+%!! No way can Darkseid's size justify a 50% price increase. He is no more larger than Batman/Superman as Batman/Superman are compared to Wonder Woman....yet those are the same prices. Same height but just a bit thicker body type. Maybe the shade of blue they had to paint Darkseid with is very rare or his core is made out of gold. That could be I suppose. Ugh....this just really sucks, cuz I did want this piece. Now I'm scared to see the price for Aquaman.

Deadset!!
Its just wrong. It doesnt feel exciting, magical, enjoyable as it did back then.
You just need everyone here to make a boycott thread. Make everyone here aware. Show companies we dont roll like that. It can be done, its those peps that label us "complainers" instead of "passionate" that ruin it.

and whats wrong with complaining uh? When its like this its justified. Its a tactic now when they bring out something better than this (which is easy) we go "oh ok, well id rather spend $600 on this than that" and then there, theyve won their little pricing up scheme.

 

[Uncle Chunt]

Deadset!!
Its just wrong. It doesnt feel exciting, magical, enjoyable as it did back then.
You just need everyone here to make a boycott thread. Make everyone here aware. Show companies we dont roll like that. It can be done, its those peps that label us "complainers" instead of "passionate" that ruin it.

and whats wrong with complaining uh? When its like this its justified. Its a tactic now when they bring out something better than this (which is easy) we go "oh ok, well id rather spend $600 on this than that" and then there, theyve won their little pricing up scheme.

I agree. We really should think about staging something to make them really aware of how this is affecting us as collectors of their products.

 

[fishmilkshake]

......Remember the day when the statues had weight?......

Remember when that huge brown box arrived and you were super-excited? For me now, it's just dread and the thought of all the possible QC issues I'm about to find.

 

[fishmilkshake]

Also, I'd love to see the comic purists chiming in to discuss about his size. I suppose that comic accuracy is relevant only when another company makes changes to costumes.

Kirby never drew Darkseid as a gigantic guy. His official height for many years was 7'6". So the statue is about right and I'm fine with it. The price, notsomuch.

The new Darkseid seems to get bigger and bigger on each subsequent appearance is being billed as 8'9".

 

[67L88Stingray]

Remember when that huge brown box arrived and you were super-excited? For me now, it's just dread and the thought of all the possible QC issues I'm about to find.

I think a lot of people are getting to that point. I know I am. I will let boxes sit for days before opening them up now.

 

[keewan]

I am talking with my wallet, this will be the 2nd non variant DC PF I am skipping.


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[Uncle Chunt]

I think a lot of people are getting to that point. I know I am. I will let boxes sit for days before opening them up now.

It shouldn't be like that though. You should feel safe with your $400-$600 purchase knowing you're getting a quality product. Not a half arsed rush job with brittle materials.

 

[hannibal10]

A lot sure has changed over the years with Sideshow. The trend is really alarming. Remember the day when the statues had weight? The Hulk comiquette was 23.5 inches high and weighed 62 lbs and the sculpt was phenomenal! Not to mention the height was mainly Hulk, as the base he was on was not a large pedestal. That was only $350 with an editions size of 1500, including the EX! Now we have astronomical edition sizes, light weight statues, 10% no return deposits, and having to wait over a year after many delays on majority of their products. One would assume with these trends that prices would be decreasing, or at least stagnating. Not jumping 50+%!! No way can Darkseid's size justify a 50% price increase. He is no more larger than Batman/Superman as Batman/Superman are compared to Wonder Woman....yet those are the same prices. Same height but just a bit thicker body type. Maybe the shade of blue they had to paint Darkseid with is very rare or his core is made out of gold. That could be I suppose. Ugh....this just really sucks, cuz I did want this piece. Now I'm scared to see the price for Aquaman.

I think they're using a really rare form of unicorn blood which is why the price is so high. Unfortunately while it provides the proper shade of blue, it also is flaky and will chip off rather easily. But that's not a QC issue so don't worry about it! /s

 

[hannibal10]

I agree. We really should think about staging something to make them really aware of how this is affecting us as collectors of their products.

Perhaps a whitehouse.gov petition?

Or more realistically letters to the BBB. Not sure they handle that sort of thing. Probably not since no one is forcing us to buy anything. So never mind this.

 

[Uncle Chunt]

Problem is personally I love and appreciate their designs and sculpts and would love to happily support them as a business. I'm already VERY choosing when it comes to putting money down on a piece. To have that then be riddled by the chance of QC hassels and bad products is a slap in the customers face. I don't understand why not many others appear to be vocal about it. Its like buying the latest album of of your favourite band, then seeing them live and they're just terrible. You'll probably still buy they're next album but have second thoughts on travelling to another show.

 

[JoeComics]

Problem is personally I love and appreciate their designs and sculpts and would love to happily support them as a business. I'm already VERY choosing when it comes to putting money down on a piece. To have that then be riddled by the chance of QC hassels and bad products is a slap in the customers face. I don't understand why not many others appear to be vocal about it. Its like buying the latest album of of your favourite band, then seeing them live and they're just terrible. You'll probably still buy they're next album but have second thoughts on travelling to another show.

I only have 2 coming this year and 1 that'll come next. These pieces are great. The prices are helping me save room and money. SS can keep raising prices and using these pedestal bases. I'll keep saying great sculpt and no thanks. Plus I am looking into more companies that create quality pieces

 

[Myers]

I wish i could buy this figure but their prices are become ridiculous insanely high and they will keep increasing the prices if we still buying from them , they are taking advantage of our passion our weakness for collectibles. I don't will able to pay overpriced PF Figures even worse without furs or clothing in fact it doesn't make any sense call it "Premium Format Figures" if it lack of clothing, plus their quality control has been getting worse year after year... why we should pay more if they offering less? I miss the old good days with sideshow where Premium Format figures includes full clothing and it cost $280 - $300 just as my Jason and Freddy Premium Format Figure. Sideshow doesn't really have any appreciation to us, they only want our wallets wide open and squeeze us until nothing left on pockets

 

[jasong888]

maybe this will be the piece to put SSC in their place as the consumers revolt against continued price increases

 

[Tbolt]

I am not much of a Darkseid fan. Not a must have character for me. That said, the price squashes any inclination I might have had to consider it. Not sure what the floor is for ES on DC pieces, but this one may set it.

 

[filip629]

I am not much of a Darkseid fan. Not a must have character for me. That said, the price squashes any inclination I might have had to consider it. Not sure what the floor is for ES on DC pieces, but this one may set it.

I hope so. I'd like an ES even lower than the GL PF. The lowest ES of any of the DC pieces would be great IMO. At least this way I won't feel like I just pissed away $600 if the ES is super low. Whenever I spend that much on a PF, I'd at least like for it to retain its value.

 

[traylorc]

Problem is personally I love and appreciate their designs and sculpts and would love to happily support them as a business. I'm already VERY choosing when it comes to putting money down on a piece. To have that then be riddled by the chance of QC hassels and bad products is a slap in the customers face. I don't understand why not many others appear to be vocal about it. Its like buying the latest album of of your favourite band, then seeing them live and they're just terrible. You'll probably still buy they're next album but have second thoughts on travelling to another show.

Have you ever considered that the Sideshow's "QC hassles" only impact a small percentage of their customer base? The folks that routinely frequent forums like this are the "super collectors". We purchase multiple collectibles annually and spend a good chunk of our disposable income on collectibles. We also spend months analyzing and critiquing prototype and Work in Process pics. And when a product does come out, we relentlessly point out every perceived defect, issue and problem.

I have a couple of friends who are "casual collectors". They may purchase 1-3 pieces of year...mostly from our local comic shop. When they are considering purchasing a piece (like the WW PF) I occasionally share some of the concerns voiced on the forum regarding the PF in question. What's interesting is that many of the "QC Issues" we spend pages whining and complaining about...don't seem to be an issue to the more casual collector. One friends commented "you guys nitpick stuff that really wouldn't bother me in the least". That got me thinking....it's easy to assume that many of the issues identified on the boards are embraced by the majority of collectors and/or Sideshow's customer base. Maybe the reason SS does not "address these QC issues" or keeps raising prices with impunity is because only a small percentage of their customer base is actually unhappy with their business practices. Think about it...if the majority of SS customers were unhappy with the QC issues they would be forced to implement changes or lose business. The question becomes are the QC issues we identify systemic issues...or are they within an acceptable tolerance of defects for any given manufacturer?

To be perfectly clear...I realize that many of you have experienced legitimate QC issues with some of your SS purchases. I am not trying to dismiss your concerns. However, there seems to be an endless supply of posts from folks wondering "how does SS justify increasing their prices given their QC issues"? Perhaps they feel justified raising their prices because the majority of customers are not complaining about QC issues?? What about those collectors that do vigorously complain about QC issues, routinely threaten to stop buying SS products, yet currently have 4-6 pre-orders listed under their signatures? After all, how bad can the QC issues be if the majority of the so called "super collectors" are not willing to make a statement with their wallets??

 

[KingB]

This I agree with^^^
My question was basically what process changes piece to piece that makes some turn out so amazing and the next ho hum. I would love to be a fly on the wall and see where they position themselves QC wise.