David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[rushmore223]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I've seen plenty of dudes with marvel avatars and sigs saying that they loved the movie

Really? I haven't noticed any.

 

[geekjosh]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Just got home from my local premiere.

I gotta say....I absolutely loved it. My favorite DC film hands down.

Did it suffer from pacing problems? Yes. Especially the first 1/3 of the film. You can see where it got cut up.

Characters were great. The casting was on point.

Jared Leto is my favorite live action Joker. His version was something I've wanted to see on screen for a while. Joker is crazy, but he's also a criminal mastermind. Seeing a Joker gang with Joker as the boss was great. As a long time DC comic collector, I was over the moon with Jared Leto's portrayal of the Joker!

Was this the best movie ever made? No.

I judge movies based on the question of "did this entertain me?", and this movie delivered on that. I don't have to have critics like what I enjoyed. I don't need a justification of why I liked something. I just enjoyed it. But I can also see why other people didn't enjoy it, and def would never get on someone's case for saying they hated it. We all like and dislike different things for different reasons.


That's all my intial thoughts guys. Already have my tickets for my next viewing on Saturday!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

If WB can't sell Affleck's butt cheeks, they better get out of the movie business.

Fixed

 

[BlueberryJerry]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Just got home from my local premiere.

I gotta say....I absolutely loved it. My favorite DC film hands down.

Did it suffer from pacing problems? Yes. Especially the first 1/3 of the film. You can see where it got cut up.

Characters were great. The casting was on point.

Jared Leto is my favorite live action Joker. His version was something I've wanted to see on screen for a while. Joker is crazy, but he's also a criminal mastermind. Seeing a Joker gang with Joker as the boss was great. As a long time DC comic collector, I was over the moon with Jared Leto's portrayal of the Joker!

Was this the best movie ever made? No.

I judge movies based on the question of "did this entertain me?", and this movie delivered on that. I don't have to have critics like what I enjoyed. I don't need a justification of why I liked something. I just enjoyed it. But I can also see why other people didn't enjoy it, and def would never get on someone's case for saying they hated it. We all like and dislike different things for different reasons.


That's all my intial thoughts guys. Already have my tickets for my next viewing on Saturday!

 

[aljf]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I haven't read through the last several pages of this thread, but here's my 2 cents...


The Good:

The most awesome character in the whole film was Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, and she was more of a badass then everyone else put together and I hope they put her in every DC film. Margot looked and acted better than I expected as Harley and had a couple decent moments.

The Bad:

It was awful. Everything about it screamed "Trying Too Hard". There were a few funny moments, but most were already in the trailer so they weren't as funny in the movie as they probably would have been if I hadn't already seen them. Will Smith is Will Smith. Zero acting on his part in this film--he was basically a cross between Will Smith in Men in Black and Will Smith in Bad Boys. Harley was ok half of the time. I liked Margot as Harley but a lot of her lines weren't funny and there are a couple cringeworthy moments. Diablo had a bigger role then I expected, but all the other Suicide Squad members are afterthoughts. They made a big deal about everyone being the "worst of the worst" but didn't deliver on it in any way. They actually went out of their way to put in storylines for a couple characters that showed how they weren't as bad as everyone thought they were. I don't know if there is a bag of dicks big enough for Jared Leto's Joker to eat. Seriously. He did nothing to make me like his Joker--NOTHING. From the way he looks (which everyone already knows I hate) to the way he acted--he was terrible. The ending was a giant CGI ****-fest with a 2-minute slo-mo shot that felt like it was 15 minutes long.

Spoilers:

Spoiler

Katana, Captain Boomerang, and Killer Croc could have not been in the movie and it wouldn't have mattered at all. Katana looked cool but did nothing. Captain Boomerang was a caricature and the trailer basically showed all his bits in the movie. Croc was unintelligible when he spoke and looked like a bobblehead with his shirt off.

Slipknot was the gratuitous "head bomb" casualty.

Diablo was the "bad guy looking for redemption" that delivered one of the cheesiest moments in the film.

Batman was in it for about 30 seconds in a flashback and was still a ****. He confronts Deadshot when his daughter is with him, then basically says he doesn't want to kick his ass with the daughter watching. Well, how about waiting until his ****ing daughter isn't with him in the first place? ****ing stupid.

****ing Will Smith as Deadshot. Eyepiece was on the wrong eye, he wears the mask for about 1 minute, he had the sappy I-love-my-daughter storyline shoved in to show he was an assassin with a heart, he was Will Smith instead of the character--making stupid jokes and wanting the government to do their "white thing" to get his daughter into an ivy league college.

Harley wears her jester costume for about 5 seconds and it looks as stupid as you'd think it should.

I wanted someone--anyone--to shoot Rick Flagg in the face.

The bar scene was so long, cheesy, and boring that I almost yelled at the screen for them to get the **** on with it.

There was actually a point where Will Smith says, "We're some sort of Suicide Squad."

Joker is probably in it for 5-10 minutes. At times Leto was doing a bad Ledger impression. At one point I noticed that he sounded like Richard Nixon. He uses his smiley face tattoos on his hands twice and it was stupid the first time so I don't know why they did it again. Also, Leto has the absolute worst Joker laugh I've ever heard--EVER. I can't imagine watching a Batman film in which he is the main villain.

The villain was the Enchantress and her brother and both were horrible. Enchantress went from looking like a slutty Pig-Pen to a slutty Malificent. Her brother was completely CGI and looked like he belonged in a Thor film. The end fight was a ton of CGI and went on for way too long--long enough for Diablo to have a "I won't let anyone hurt my new family" moment that made me cringe. All of the bad guys the squad fought were some sort of zombie/magic creature things that exploded when shot.

I'm sure I'll think of more stuff but right now I think my brain is trying to block it all out.

I agree with most of what you're saying: I found the Joker and Harley the most interesting part of the movie. Affleck kicked ass as Batman, but why all the tattoos on joker?? He looks like a hipster doofus. Will Smith was awful: he was just playing Will Smith like he does in all his films. The other characters were terrible and did not need to be in the movie at all.

 

[Chapter 2099]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Here's my non-spoiler review:

I'm not huge DC fan, so I didn't go into this with a lot of background knowledge of the characters nor HUGE expectations (still hyped, but nonetheless). I felt like "Suicide Squad" was a step in the right direction for DC - especially with recent installments like BvS (which I thought sucked.)

My favorite part about this movie was Will Smith and Margot Robbie. They really nailed they're characters - I wanted to see Deadshot and Harley Quinn on the big screen and that's what I got. (And that's probably why they got paid what they did. ) They really fleshed out their characters, and I felt the writing done for both of them was great - ie. backstories, side plots, etc. etc. I loved 'em. I really enjoyed Diablo a lot in the little time we got of him - especially at the end. I think the problem though is there were just too many characters to appreciate all of them in a 2-hour span. It just wasn't possible. Killer Croc was underused (which was a BIG shame, IMO). I felt nothing for Boomerang. And the others unfortunately followed suit and that goes for Enchantress as well. And then....there was the Joker.

I thought Leto did good....not great. He was just another crazy guy in face paint. I can't quite figure out if it was because of the lack of screen time, Leto himself or what, but Ledger's Joker put this one to shame. Not even close for me. Do I want to see him again? Sure and expect to. He deserves more.

I thought the beginning of the movie was fast-paced and kept my interest, but it started to lack towards the middle, and then the 'final battle' hooked me again - probably because of the CGI fest and seeing Deadshot/Harley/Diablo in action. Without adding spoilers, I didn't care for the villain nor the 'army.' Oh, boy.....that army was really something. Those 'henchmen' were horrible. The 'evil plan' was lackluster and didn't really surprise me - it was nothing new.

On a side note: There were a few 'easter' eggs thrown in there that I liked and put a smile on my face (again, avoiding spoilers).

All in all, I enjoyed it. I think it lives up to the hype - from non-DC fanboy perspective. I can respect if those that love these characters weren't impressed....but I was impressed. Smith and Robbie steal the show for me. Despite the lackluster supporting cast and evil plots, I'll see it again because of them alone - they were that good.

Suicide Squad: 8/10.

 

[Ropen]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

=jye4ever;8794058]WB needs this to be as big a financial success story at the box office as any other tent pole summer movie.

WB/DC executives will be in very BIG trouble if this doesn't hit at least 800 million!

For them this is no joke.

WB is probably sick and tired of wasting their efforts on superhero movies.

They're their own worst enemy though.

Its like DLC..but with movies lol they half ass a movie and release a more complete version at full price smh


Sent from Le iPhone 6 Plus using Tapatalk - now Free

 

[rushmore223]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Well, that seems like quite a coincidence.

Highly Suspect!

 

[TaliBane]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Damn this is making me mad. Why can't DC get **** right? Some of the decisions they make are real brow raising , like Jesse eisenengberg as lex luthor. Or those stupid tats on joker.

I think this movie could be the end of twenty years of tatts and piercings being cool.

Jesse E was a really weak decision.


And did anyone notice the producer of SS's name is... Richard Suckle? What do people call him for short?

 

[BlueberryJerry]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Tattoos are cool dawg...

 

[TaliBane]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Tattoos are cool dawg...

But for some it's a bit like Unobtainium.

 

[noisetrigger]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I have come to realized that ironically, with the dark and serious tone that WB has been going for with their movies, the Nolan Trilogy could have easily took place in the same world and used as a building block for the DCU. What a wasted opportunity.

 

[BlueberryJerry]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

And did anyone notice the producer of SS's name is... Richard Suckle? What do people call him for short?

 

[batfan08]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Anyone who wants to call Zack Snyder a hack can get ****ed. Compared to this pile of ****, MoS and BvS may as well be the collected works of Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, David Lean, John Huston, Sergio Leone, and Federico Fellini combined. Thankfully, between DiFabio's warnings and my already low expectations, I was able to not guzzle a gallon of Clorox as I sat in that auditorium of horrors.

As someone who's always enjoyed David Ayer's work, prior to this, there has to be some Invasion of the Body Snatchers level **** going on here, because that felt like some 12-year old's Monster Energy-fueled notebook musings on a $150 million budget.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Anyone who wants to call Zack Snyder a hack can get ****ed. Compared to this pile of ****, MoS and BvS may as well be the collected works of Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, David Lean, John Huston, Sergio Leone, and Federico Fellini combined. Thankfully, between DiFabio's warnings and my already low expectations, I was able to not guzzle a gallon of Clorox as I sat in that auditorium of horrors.

As someone who's always enjoyed David Ayer's work, prior to this, there has to be some Invasion of the Body Snatchers level **** going on here, because that felt like some 12-year old's Monster Energy-fueled notebook musings on a $150 million budget.

So how was Leto?

 

[BlueberryJerry]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I have come to realized that ironically, with the dark and serious tone that WB has been going for with their movies, the Nolan Trilogy could have easily took place in the same world and used as a building block for the DCU. What a wasted opportunity.

Could you seriously see THAT Batman taking on Superman?? Nolan films belong in their own hyper realistic universe.

 

[batfan08]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

So how was Leto?

Just what I'd expected: a try hard douche canoe who got off on trying to be edgy. The hilarious part is that the few tolerable parts of his were ruined by his forced, ****** laughter. Like, when he was laying in the circle of knives, pining over Harley, and he just starts laughing, or, when he's embracing her at Ace chemical, and, again, he just starts laughing. It's like, "for ****'s sake, dude. We get it, you're playing the Joker, just like you've been constantly reminding us, with the condoms, and the pigs, and the rats, and the "hahas" and the smiley faces, and the word "JOKER" TATTOOED ON YOUR ****ING STOMACH!"

I would've been so much happier had his ass roasted in that helicopter crash.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Anyone who wants to call Zack Snyder a hack can get ****ed. Compared to this pile of ****, MoS and BvS may as well be the collected works of Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, David Lean, John Huston, Sergio Leone, and Federico Fellini combined. Thankfully, between DiFabio's warnings and my already low expectations, I was able to not guzzle a gallon of Clorox as I sat in that auditorium of horrors.

As someone who's always enjoyed David Ayer's work, prior to this, there has to be some Invasion of the Body Snatchers level **** going on here, because that felt like some 12-year old's Monster Energy-fueled notebook musings on a $150 million budget.

Wow, this pretty much seals the deal for me. And you're one of the few I saw actually appreciated BvS.

This could be the final nail on the coffin' for the DCEU, I don't see how they can get up from this, their vision seems to be all over the place, before the BvS panic, their vision was clear, and I could get behind that, but after seeing the JL "trailer" where everyone claimed "they finally got it right", and the rumors about this being severely altered, I think WB lost all grip of this thing.

Could you seriously see THAT Batman taking on Superman?? Nolan films belong in their own hyper realistic universe.

There's nothing hyper realistic about the Nolan-verse. It was supposed to be more realistic than the average CBM, but it's certainly not hyper realistic, BvS or MoS could very well take place in that same universe if you ask me.

If anything, the only hyper-realistic superhero thing I've see is Netflix Daredevil.

 

[batfan08]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Also, Croc looking like a ****ing goomba from the Super Mario Bros. movie. Actually, he was kind of like the opposite of a goomba, with a tiny body and a giant ****ing head. It seems like they couldn't make up their mind whether or not they wanted the giant, monstrous Croc, or the more humanoid, realistic Croc, so, they just put the giant, monstrous Croc's giant ass head on an average sized dude's body and it looked weird as ****. I wanted to like that look, and I didn't entirely mind when he was clothed, but, when he goes for his swim, at the end, it just looked ****ing terrible.

 

[BlueberryJerry]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Wow, this pretty much seals the deal for me. And you're one of the few I saw actually appreciated BvS.

This could be the final nail on the coffin' for the DCEU, I don't see how they can get up from this, their vision seems to be all over the place, before the BvS panic, their vision was clear, and I could get behind that, but after seeing the JL "trailer" where everyone claimed "they finally got it right", and the rumors about this being severely altered, I think WB lost all grip of this thing.


There's nothing hyper realistic about the Nolan-verse. It was supposed to be more realistic than the average CBM, but it's certainly not hyper realistic, BvS or MoS could very well take place in that same universe if you ask me.

If anything, the only hyper-realistic superhero thing I've see is Netflix Daredevil.

Yeah Daredevil is hyper-realistic for sure, but you can't say that TDK isn't as well.