David Tennant and RTD will be at SDCC

[Memnoch]

For all the crap I get for my opinions I have yet to see one decent argument as to why he's so great.
It's either drooling women going on about his looks or people who like him just because they've been brainwashed by all the crap from RTD in the media constantly telling us he's the greatest thing ever.

He helped really launch Who to the fore again, he was a life long fan who got to realize his dream, he seemed to combine bits from each Doctor and still make it his own and he had a genuinely good time in the role. He drew women to the show and overall reaffirmed it as solid fun FAMILY entertainment.

 

[bcm77]

Like soccer players that sign for a new club and say it's the one they supported as a youngster everywhere they go I have severe doubts about Tennant being a fan since he was a boy.

That to me just sounds like the sort of crap he'll have been instructed to say to make the right impression with fans.

If he was genuinely a fan then he can't have been paying much attention because he's shown none of the charisma the best Doctors have had.

His voice is annoying,his so called "humor" sounds forced and when trying to be serious his Doctor sounds about as convincing as that plank who played the older Anakin Skywalker in the Star Wars prequels.

In fairness he's not helped by the production team as RTD's ideas would likely stifle anyone's talent but I still think if he were really that good he would have added that something to his performances to rise above the crappy material he had to work with.

 

[pixletwin]

Not true. I know a guy who is an active member of a DW fanclub in Scotland and he has known Tennant since they were 16 or something. They met via the fanclub.

CE built a solid foundation for DW's return, but the cathedral was built by DT.

 

[bcm77]

Not true. I know a guy who is an active member of a DW fanclub in Scotland and he has known Tennant since they were 16 or something. They met via the fanclub.

CE built a solid foundation for DW's return, but the cathedral was built by DT.

OK well I stand by my remark that he can't have been paying much attention.

And going back to an earlier post I think the moves that RTD has made to attract more female viewers including hiring a pretty boy as a Doctor have been among his biggest crimes.

Women have more than their share of soap operas or whatever other stuff they're into on pretty much every channel so to see Doctor Who reduced to the same kind of show is largely why I've gone off it's current incarnation.

 

[Memnoch]

I think DT had great charisma.. but DIFFERENT. Doctors 1 2 and 3 were sort of like a Grandfather figure. Well actually Hartnell WAS a Grandfather TB seemed more like the odd Uncle that you had a cool time with. 5 seemd more like an older brother.. 6 and 7 were back to the Uncle feeling. 8 is hard to get a feeling on as theres only about 2 hrs of televised story. 9 though seemed to have that brother/cool friend feeling where as DT was like the person you (well I) would love to travel through time with because he is off the wall and never know what's going to happen but he is informed.. sort of. So to me he takes the best aspects and makes them his own. Overall he IS a life long fan of the show, I mean.. that speech at the end of Time Crash was his love letter to PD and pretty much written by him so I think that says it all.

 

[pixletwin]

OK well I stand by my remark that he can't have been paying much attention.

The real question is how a man with such little acting talent and no charisma could have become (arguably) the most popular Doctor ever.

 

[bcm77]

The real question is how a man with such little acting talent and no charisma could have become (arguably) the most popular Doctor ever.

It's all in the way he's marketed. If RTD is good at something it's creating hype and where Tennant is concerned he does it to the nth degree,never missing an opportunity to get his face in the media singing his praises.

Such relentless promoting of him in every form of Doctor Who media has without doubt had the desired effect too.

Had Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy had the same level of support then no doubt they would have been considered the greatest ever instead of merely being adequate.

As for the charisma thing,I never feel with Tennant that he comes across very naturally,especially when he's not being manic as he seems to deliver his lines in a very flat,almost robotic like manner and his choice of accent is very grating and doesn't carry any real weight no matter what he's saying.

Christopher Eccleston used his usual speaking voice so why couldn't Tennant? Lots of planets have a north so maybe they talked like Scots somewhere on Gallifrey too?

 

[pixletwin]

It's all in the way he's marketed. If RTD is good at something it's creating hype and where Tennant is concerned he does it to the nth degree,never missing an opportunity to get his face in the media singing his praises.

Such relentless promoting of him in every form of Doctor Who media has without doubt had the desired effect too.

Had Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy had the same level of support then no doubt they would have been considered the greatest ever instead of merely being adequate.

Orrrrrrrrrr..... it could just be a matter of taste. I think you just don't like the man. But clearly most Doctor Who fans feel differently.

 

[Entropy]

I tried to watch some "classic" Who the other day . I'm so glad that new Who went in a different direction than the, imo, boring dreck that came before. It still fails to grab me at times, but the modern incarnation is immensely more watchable.

 

[pixletwin]

I tried to watch some "classic" Who the other day . I'm so glad that new Who went in a different direction than the, imo, boring dreck that came before.

Pendulum swings both ways I guess.

I myself LOVE the new series AND I enjoyed watching Full Circle with my oldest boy last night.

Adric =

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[Memnoch]

Do you know what killed the dinosaurs? ... Adric does. Some classic Who is great.. other stories not so much. Just like with the more recent stories, some are excellent, others not so much.

 

[Kibishii]

....The autograph signing areas were a total cluster^^^^.

AMEN! As much as I would like a few autographs, I don't want to deal with the BS involved.

 

[Entropy]

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I agree

I think, for good or bad, the nu-who is a LOT more accessible to a general audience than the older stuff.

 

[bcm77]

I agree

I think, for good or bad, the nu-who is a LOT more accessible to a general audience than the older stuff.

I agree and therein lies my problem as I dislike the vast majority of modern TV. Nu-Who was pretty much the only thing I watched that wasn't a rerun of an old series from the 70's-90's.

The format had to be changed to suit modern audiences but the 1000mph pacing and style over substance approach that is likely a big reason for the revived show's popularity in the US gets used in so many different things that it's meant Who has become "just another show" that doesn't really stand out or at least not for the right reasons.

On the subject of autographs I think anyone who charges for them is a disgrace as it's not like they don't get paid for their appearance and most of 'em aren't exactly struggling for cash to begin with.

 

[barbelith]

For all the crap I get for my opinions I have yet to see one decent argument as to why he's so great.

Arguing over subjective taste never persuades anyone of anything. I think a lot of people are probably drawn in by his enthusiasm, which is rare on TV.

 

[barbelith]

Like soccer players that sign for a new club and say it's the one they supported as a youngster everywhere they go I have severe doubts about Tennant being a fan since he was a boy.

He can cite chapter and verse in Doctor Who lore and was known as a fan well before he was cast (for example his earliest Big Finish work). There's no reason to doubt him on this one. The idea that he wasn't paying attention because his interpretation is different than yours is absurd.

 

[barbelith]

Such relentless promoting of him in every form of Doctor Who media has without doubt had the desired effect too.

The problem with this argument is this mythical effect doesn't appear to have affected you. So either you're so astonishingly clever you're immune to the effect of "relentless promoting" while everyone else is a drone or ... you're just the odd man out in the taste department on this one.

Tennant is hardly a bad actor. He played Hamlet in the RSC FFS. He plays the Doctor the way most fans probably would (a criticism I personally have of his performance, but which also underlines the point that he's a lifelong fan himself). That's not your cup of tea, but clearly millions of people have enjoyed it for three years. To have no attrition in the ratings is virtually unheard of.

 

[Darth Caedus]

With his quirkiness and odd expressions, Tennant has almost turned The Doctor into a caricature of himself; which is ALWAYS fun to watch. THAT is why I like DT as the doctor. CE was more serious and austere than DT.

 

[barbelith]

With his quirkiness and odd expressions, Tennant has almost turned The Doctor into a caricature of himself; which is ALWAYS fun to watch. THAT is why I like DT as the doctor. CE was more serious and austere than DT.

I preferred CE for precisely the same reason. I enjoy DT on the whole (his dramatic work more than the comedy). But his Doctor is basically a stereotyped portrayal vs an actual new incarnation like the best of the previous ones. I really hope MS gives us something completely unexpected the way TB and CE did.