DC Joker Movie (Non-DCEU)

[abake]

Honestly, I am interested to see where he goes form here. He took a 4-year vacation after the Oscar, and even now he's got no future movies listed. Scorsese has been talking about making some Rome and Caesar movies and/or shows for years now, with DiCaprio included, but I don't see them happening.

As for Joker, I think he'd make for a nice Period Piece 1920s Gangster Joker. He's got that Prohibition Era look to him, you know? Ledger sold the whole Anarchist thing, Phoenix's Inceloker was fine, but Leo has that air of Americana Class (yeah yeah, I know, that's more of a 50s thing; you get my point). Dapper Gangster Joker is what fits him. Maybe it's Gatsby influencing me, dunno.

Damn, that would be all kids of epic!
I love Roman history, especially everything that surrounds Caesar and the fall of the Republic. Such amazing events, such amazing characters...
Although I absolutely love Ci?ran Hinds' take on Caesar in Rome, I do hope we get a more historically accurate telling of his life. I'd probably try to cast Daniel Day Lewis as Caesar, DiCaprio as Brutus, Fassbender as Mark Antony and Brad Pitt as Pompey Magnus (although he'd have to put on some weight...).

 

[Victοr]

Damn, that would be all kids of epic!
I love Roman history, especially everything that surrounds Caesar and the fall of the Republic. Such amazing events, such amazing characters...
Although I absolutely love Ci?ran Hinds' take on Caesar in Rome, I do hope we get a more historically accurate telling of his life. I'd probably try to cast Daniel Day Lewis as Caesar, DiCaprio as Brutus, Fassbender as Mark Antony and Brad Pitt as Pompey Magnus (although he'd have to put on some weight...).

DDL has retired, sadly. Phantom Thread was his last film. And yeah, I'd love to see it too, but at this point I don't think it's getting made. Marty went all out on The Irishman and he got no awards, which must have hurt a bit; it was his passion project for a long while. Plus, he's 77, he's no ripe orange. Eastwood's still making films though, so who knows?

It's a bit of a shame that there's not a whole lot of Rome stuff out there. There's HBO's Rome with its untimely cancellation, BBC's "I, Claudius", a couple of old films, some modern stuff like Gladiator, Centurion, etc, and Starz's Spartacus. Spartacus is half schlocky fun and half Deadwood-style dialogue, but it never really grabbed me. I want to like it, and I kinda do, but I watch an episode every few months. Then there's the awful Britannia show, but... ugh. There a couple of good comics though, like "The Eagles Of Rome".

The Renaissance has a lot more material by comparison. But the reason is pretty obvious. It's why all the Sword & Sandal and Historical Epics all died. The sets and costumes are too expensive, you cannot just grab a couple of extras from New York to populate those periods, and the audience for them is sadly too limited these days. Capeflicks can just be made with a geen screen and cheap props, so studios prefer them. But hey, sometimes we get such Kinos as BBC's Troy! I'm not gonna post a pic, we all know what I'm talking about.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

 

[Khev]

 

[Victοr]

SNAP BACK TO REALITY
OH THERE GOES THE OSCARY

 

[jye4ever]

lol @ Clown




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[guyver1]

I read Phoenix is interested in working with the MCU

Hey Reynolds, Affleck ..don’t rule it out

 

[jye4ever]

Best decision JP ever made in his professional career was turning down DS and playing second fiddle to RDJ while also having a weak MCU origin movie and instead creating one of the most iconic one man show in cinematic history a true tour de force.

Oscar well deserved this time out as was Ledgers when he won from the grave, go figure.

Now the narrative itself in the Joker does not achieve the same level of greatness as the performance did.


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[guyver1]

SNAP BACK TO REALITY
OH THERE GOES THE OSCARY

Martin will get one more before he passes on. We know it’s coming

 

[Victοr]

Martin will get one more before he passes on. We know it’s coming

He's 77. I don't know, he's not exactly Clint Eastwood. Maybe he'll make that Rome movie/series he wants, but I don't think it'd turn out good in the [current day].

 

[Otomofan]

The Irishman really sucked.

I know. Some of you liked it. But man.....I've seen some movies suck but that was one of the suckiest sucks that ever sucked.

 

[jye4ever]

Irishman kept me invested in how it would all tie up in the end but yes it was really bad.

Deniro beating up that deli guy on the sidewalk was embarrassing to watch.

Pacino was horrible with all that ridiculous screaming.

The movie was a disjointed mess.

Sorry Scorcese but I will always revisit my favorite MCU movies but I will never revisit the Irishman.


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[a-dev]

I haven't seen it yet but the few clips I have seen on youtube didn't do it any favours - the clip Jye just mentioned with Deniro beating up the deli guy did look terrible and also a courtroom scene where there's an attempted assassination on Pacino has a big continuity error.

Still, I'm sure the overall movie will be worth a look. I'm of the view that both Scorcese's films and Marvel's movies are cinema.

 

[jye4ever]

a-dev you are all the Irishman we need lol


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[TaliBane]

The Irishman really sucked.

I know. Some of you liked it. But man.....I've seen some movies suck but that was one of the suckiest sucks that ever sucked.

Yeah, it's an underwhelming movie, especially given the critical acclaim. The CGI is incredible but at the same time alters the performances and makes them look weird in some scenes - it took me out of maybe 1/4 of the running time.

But the movie has all kinds of wider problems beyond the CGI issue from a storytelling and character standpoint - even De Niro doesn't come off great (and the fact they keep teasing this face-off with his daughter that never happens was pinpointed in the news stories about Ana Paquin's tiny, mostly silent, role.) You would think this would/should have been the "crowning glory" with an oscar to both Scorsese and De Niro but it's significant it wasn't.

 

[Neal136]

 

[Victοr]

Run Phoenix, run!
As fast as you can!
You might be a Vegan but,
Crowe is not!

 

[Khev]

Run Phoenix, run!
As fast as you can!
You might be a Vegan but,
Crowe is not!

"Look at these monkeys flinging their poo."

"Oh you think that's funny huh, okay close your eyes for a second," lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Wow, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, and Keanu are older than Crowe. There's no reason for him to look like that.

 

[Victοr]

It was for a role but he let it get too bad. He was playing that Fox news guy that grabbed some pussies IIRC. They made that flop with Robbie last year, to cash in on the... uh, #MeToo goldmine.