OK. Episode 10 was interesting and not in a good way. Something strangely awkward and un-Dexter about the writing.
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sometimes I wonder, What's with all the hate against James Remar and Harry being in the show?
I have read a lot of negative comments on the IMDB of the show and read people that think he sucks and that he should not be in the show, among other things...
But, Harry is my favorite character outside of Dexter, I love how he is always talking to Dexter about his plans and stuff, I love Harry, I always like when he appears in an episode,sometimes I wish he appeared more,
but then, like i said, a lot of people hate him. I really wonder why?
I have read a lot of negative comments on the IMDB of the show and read people that think he sucks and that he should not be in the show, among other things...
But, Harry is my favorite character outside of Dexter, I love how he is always talking to Dexter about his plans and stuff, I love Harry, I always like when he appears in an episode,sometimes I wish he appeared more,
but then, like i said, a lot of people hate him. I really wonder why?
Mr. EcKo
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I like Harry . He's Dexters Good side and helps Dex out in tough situations .
Ash Housewares
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Dexter sounded really shakey when he did his inner monologues. Something is definately off this season. Compare the style and the tone to previous seasons. It all seems cheap now.
Blood Electricity
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he's also not as cautious as he used to be. It's totally stupid seeing him be so wreckless.
I don't see where ANYBODY in here said they want to see that???
I think the overwhelming response is "I hope they don't go there".
Like I said before, I think they are just trying to re-establish the Debra/Dexter bond that was established in Season 1 and then almost completely discarded season by season afterwards. BUT... as somebody mentioned, some of the stuff with the psychiatrist and the preview for next week kinda seem to tease at the possibility of something more intimate, which we all hope does not happen.
I think some of us even pondered if they were gonna go the lesbian route with Debra and the psychiatrist at one point lol.
which I would be much cooler with.
I can explain this! As an OG Dexter fan, I can remember when I would discuss Dexter on SSF and people would say "Oh, Dexter's lab?!? I love that cartoon!!!!" I also posted on the dexter board on sho.com and listened mostly to the few fans who were like me and the waves and waves of middle-aged housewives who went on and on about how hot "MCH" was and how he had dreamy eyebrows and crap ---ahhh, those were the days! But yeah, alot of the people who came along later in the series tend to have a different take on the character...they really just want Dexter to be a show where he's just an unrestricted killer. Soooooooo, anything that gets in the way of that, they want gone (Harry). It's like Rita, fans wanted her gone and she's gone. I think the ending to Season 4 was EPIC, don't get me wrong- but, it could easily be looked back upon one day as when Dexter "jumped the shark". Not saying the past 2 seasons have been bad, but it does seem like they are struggling now to re-establish the whole foundation that made Dexter such a great character. The whole "don't get caught" tense moments are simply not what they used to be, the inner dialogue and "living double lives" moments are not as definied or interesting as they once were. Dexter at work is an afterthought now...nobody suspects him, no watching his back for James Doakes' chilling stares and computing mind.....no tense moments at home with trying to hide his work from Rita. Alot of the fans these days just never got how Harry, Rita, Doakes and Debra were essential to Dexter's character. They just think he should just kill kill kill every week and that's the show.
that's my 2 cents anyways.
Morbach
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I love Harry. The show wouldn't be the same without him.
Kamandi
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Harry taught Dex to be the way he is. I've always thought the nature vs. nurture question was one of the untold stories of this show. Did Harry discover a killer inside Dex or make one? If it's the later, then did Harry have a dark passenger too?
I'd like to see a young Harry episode where we find out he wasn't so different from Dex.
I'd like to see a young Harry episode where we find out he wasn't so different from Dex.
Like someone said before somewhere else, Now Dexter Inner monologue just states the obvious, like, they are not even monologues but more like a narration of the obvious,
I dont know I like all seasons but, If i had to say of a worst season, I this season is the worst of all of them, I think this was weaker than 3 or 5
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I like to read the TV Club and they're just tearing this show up.
I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.
The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.
Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.
I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.
The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.
Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.
bloodgear
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That was part of the charm of the first four seasons. I always found Dex to be completely human when he rambled on about he wasn't. The show always showed little insights into that.
Now he's hardly the same character.
Well said here. I could kinda understand where they were going with Lila and Lumen sexually, because Dexter would perhaps be turned on by the idea of somebody knowing who he is and accepting him fully. It would create a true feeling of intimacy for him, kinda the same way he would feel about having a friend like that as well, much like he would have liked to have been with Miguel and Brian. It really makes no sense to have Dexter banging some skank in a gas station or shooting guns, etc, really. While the episode with Brian this season was great for nostalgic reasons, it just seemed more like it hurt the season than helped. It's like they threw in an episode, like they didn't have enough DDK content and needed to make a complete season. It seemed more like something you'd see in deleted scenes or alternate scenes or something.
Ash Housewares
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Looks like they night be going there. Spoilers
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Check out this video on YouTube:
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Morbach
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I do think some people over think things a bit much. Dexter said he wasn't interested in sex until Rita gave him some "sucky sucky" on Halloween. Up until that point he made a move that chased her off. He got the urge to do it as he did when he was nailing Layla in season 2.
Then he did Lumen in season 5. We have watched this character evolve and grow and so you can't expect the same thing of him. I think people are too quick to jump on the negative.
Then he did Lumen in season 5. We have watched this character evolve and grow and so you can't expect the same thing of him. I think people are too quick to jump on the negative.
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I agree. His character grows more human every season.
-In the first episode of Season 1 he says he has no feelings and then by Episode 12 he cries after killing his brother.
-Season 2 he feels bad for ruining Doakes life and having Lundy get caught in Dexter's own crossfire, so he decides to turn himself in. Lila makes it easy for him by killing Doakes, but Dexter was going to do the right thing. He had a conscience then.
-Season 3 he longs for human connection with a real friend, Miguel Prado. He even gives Carmella a mercy killing feeding her spiked pie.
-Season 4 his love for Rita and the kids grow. He feels remorse for killing an innocent, the photographer, Jonathan Farrow.
-Season 5 he starts off by wanting to help Lumen (before wanting to bang her).
-Season 6 Brother Sam becomes Dexter's first true friend. That's why Dexter was caught so off guard when Dexter said Sam should come over sometime and Sam said sure how about tonight. He started off wanting to help Travis rid himself of his Dark Passenger.
Don't say he was a ruthless killing machine all series! (Not you Morbach).
As far as Deb, there is NO WAY they will be romantically involved. They are setting up her love for him to make it more dramatic when she finds out. That's my view and I'm sticking with it.
(Because I can't accept anything else).
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Selling my entire Dexter collection
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If they do the romatic Deb/Dexter angle, I don't know how I could look at my collection anymore. Too bad the writers won't fit the Code.
Despite me agreeing with the signs I have been thinking about it and I am actually leaning more towards your theory, as much as it looks that way It would be a very risky thing to do and could put off many of there fans...but hey if it does happen ....I called it!
