You are right though.. I laughed really hard when he said that line. She was pretty twisted. She had the hots for dexter even right before he killed her.
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DinoLast
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Told you it wasn't Anton.
Good episode, but I'm finding Rita annoying.
great ending with the twist that Trinity is just like Dexter.
Good episode, but I'm finding Rita annoying.
great ending with the twist that Trinity is just like Dexter.
DarthKy
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is it just me or does anyone else hate Rita. i just wish she would die.
The ill Jedi
ILLest of 'em all!!
I thought Rita was a little less annoying in last weeks episode, but in yesterdays I just want to slap the ^^^^ out of her! 
I know the writers are making it seem like things are more difficult for Dex, but she is smothering him! 
Sucks about Lundy dying, I really liked his character.
That last part of the episode was kinda cool too, with Dex finding out that Trinity is a family man and saying that he was like him.
I know the writers are making it seem like things are more difficult for Dex, but she is smothering him! Sucks about Lundy dying, I really liked his character.
That last part of the episode was kinda cool too, with Dex finding out that Trinity is a family man and saying that he was like him.
DinoDB1975
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I was the most vocal proponent of the Anton shooter theory, but it doesn't look like it was Anton.
However, something's still rotten in Denmark to me. Miami-Dade PD believed that Lundy's death was due to the Vacation Killers, but Dex believed it was Trinity...although he has no evidence thus far to back it up. Dexter has always worked within his code, and has never acted until he had forensic evidence to back it up. And I also found Trinity's reaction at the diner while watching the news report of the shooting unclear. He was watching pretty intently, but I don't know if it was surprise or not. I still think that Trinity would not act outside of his code/ritual, but could be wrong. After all, Lundy was wrong about Trinity being a lone wolf type...Trinity could have killed Lundy out of self-preservation.
As for the Vacation Killers, it was never determined in that episode that they were the shooters. Hopefully it comes out next episode that the ballistics match all the other shootings, or they got a confession from the female shooter.
One other thing to stir the pot, and this is the conspiracy theorist in me REALLY making a stretch. Let's go back to the shooting: Lundy looks past Deb, and has a quizically expression on his face. Deb gets shot, falls to the ground. Two gunshots to Lundy, and the point is made to show the assailants take Lundy's wallet and watch. Nothing is shown to be taken from Deb...but it is later reported that Deb's cash and credit cards were taken. Now, I know everything is not shown "on screen" and that could have happened "off screen", but to me, it seemed like it was a point to show things being taken from Lundy. Here's where the stretch comes in...it was reported Quinn was the first on the scene. We know he has no qualms about taking cash from a crime scene...would he be so emboldened as to have taken Deb's stuff? Just a thought for discussion, not a theory...
However, something's still rotten in Denmark to me. Miami-Dade PD believed that Lundy's death was due to the Vacation Killers, but Dex believed it was Trinity...although he has no evidence thus far to back it up. Dexter has always worked within his code, and has never acted until he had forensic evidence to back it up. And I also found Trinity's reaction at the diner while watching the news report of the shooting unclear. He was watching pretty intently, but I don't know if it was surprise or not. I still think that Trinity would not act outside of his code/ritual, but could be wrong. After all, Lundy was wrong about Trinity being a lone wolf type...Trinity could have killed Lundy out of self-preservation.
As for the Vacation Killers, it was never determined in that episode that they were the shooters. Hopefully it comes out next episode that the ballistics match all the other shootings, or they got a confession from the female shooter.
One other thing to stir the pot, and this is the conspiracy theorist in me REALLY making a stretch. Let's go back to the shooting: Lundy looks past Deb, and has a quizically expression on his face. Deb gets shot, falls to the ground. Two gunshots to Lundy, and the point is made to show the assailants take Lundy's wallet and watch. Nothing is shown to be taken from Deb...but it is later reported that Deb's cash and credit cards were taken. Now, I know everything is not shown "on screen" and that could have happened "off screen", but to me, it seemed like it was a point to show things being taken from Lundy. Here's where the stretch comes in...it was reported Quinn was the first on the scene. We know he has no qualms about taking cash from a crime scene...would he be so emboldened as to have taken Deb's stuff? Just a thought for discussion, not a theory...
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Anton isn't even in the mix for the shooter, but they are obviously trying to keep it ambiguous about whether it's Trinity or the Vacation Killers.
As for Dexter not acting until he has proof - he actually witnessed Trinity killing the snackbar guy on the security camera.
As for Rita being annoying - she's been quite reasonable and she reminded us last night why she should be suspicious of Dex - he was a drug addict (as far as she knows) and he did cheat with fire-lady and told Rita about it. He lied about the apartment and he broke the security lights. If she just blithely ignored everything and let him get on with it, everyone would hate her for just being stupid.
I really don't think Quinn would steal from Deb. I think it's just one of those little continuity errors that crop up, even in the best of shows.
I can't wait for next week with Dex playing cat & mouse with Trinity. Some scenes with Lithgow and Hall interacting will be juicy.
As for Dexter not acting until he has proof - he actually witnessed Trinity killing the snackbar guy on the security camera.
As for Rita being annoying - she's been quite reasonable and she reminded us last night why she should be suspicious of Dex - he was a drug addict (as far as she knows) and he did cheat with fire-lady and told Rita about it. He lied about the apartment and he broke the security lights. If she just blithely ignored everything and let him get on with it, everyone would hate her for just being stupid.
I really don't think Quinn would steal from Deb. I think it's just one of those little continuity errors that crop up, even in the best of shows.
I can't wait for next week with Dex playing cat & mouse with Trinity. Some scenes with Lithgow and Hall interacting will be juicy.
Devil_666
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Really!? I thought it was obvious Trinity was the shooter after the first 5 minutes of Dexter's internal monologue last night. The Vacation killers murdered their victims. This case, Lundy was shot twice and AFTER Deb which is peculiar because if you have a choice between two people, most would shoot a man first, not a woman. Also Deb lived. If it was the Vacation Killers they wouldn't have left a witness and you would've seen two people (you only see one). If it was Anton he would've made sure Deb died; 1 shot does not = crime of passion. Again, I thought it was pretty obvious it was Trinity because Lundy got too close (found the site of his third cycle kill) and Trinity thought that might jeopardize his ritual.DinoDB1975
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True. However, I wasn't clear, I meant that Dexter had no proof that Lundy was the shooter. His thought monologues made it clear that even though Miami Dade thought it was the VKs, he thought it was Trinity.
You're probably right about the continuiuty errors. Just been spoiled by how good the show has been. I can't remember any other continuity issues over any of the other seasons.
hairlesswookiee
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Yeah I also find that Rita is starting to be a witch, but then again most women get this way when they find out their husband's aren't the big Prince they thought they were marrying.
~~She thinks he's a recovering Addict
~~He's already cheated on her
~~She commented that she is just now finding out how much he's been lying to her and how good he is at it.
As much as I love Dexter he kind of had it coming.
~~She thinks he's a recovering Addict
~~He's already cheated on her
~~She commented that she is just now finding out how much he's been lying to her and how good he is at it.
As much as I love Dexter he kind of had it coming.
DinoDB1975
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Trinity makes the most sense, but I still am not convinced he eliminated Lundy, even though it makes sense from a self-preservation point of view. He's followed his pattern to a tee over thirty years...I'm not sure he would deviate from his ritual, which has intrinsic meaning to him alone.
Don't think it was the VKs; either Bautista or La Guerta mentioned that it made no sense for them to leave a potential witness. I think we may find the ballistics don't match.
As for Anton, he holds very little (read miniscule) weight as the shooter...but what if he only meant to kill Lundy and not Deb? He was pretty willing to work things out with her even after she told him she slept with Lundy.
Devil_666
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Ah.. but Dexter, who also has followed his code/pattern to a tee over the years... and who normally doesn't deviate from his ritual, which has intrinsic meaning to him alone HAS deviated before when the circumstances called for it. Remember Doakes and Lila? And especially when Dexter killed "The Skinner"? Like you said, it's just self-preservation. Even if a Serial Killer has a ritual, that doesn't mean they're against killing in general. So it's not like Dexter or Trinity can only kill people if it fits within their normal ritual.
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DinoDB1975
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I see your argument, but Dexter's code does not have the same intrinsic meaning to Dexter that Trinity's ritual has to himself. While we are not privy to the details as of yet, it can be ascertained that Trinity's pattern of kills is related to the death of his family in some way. Yes Dexter is what he is because of what happened in his childhood, but he is not killing all his victims the way his mother was killed with a chainsaw. Plus, as the protagonist of this series, Dexter's a different monster, if you will. While he initially planned to, he decided not to kill Doakes. It was Lila that killed Doakes. And Dexter killed Lila because she killed Doakes, as well as her former boyfriend...she confessed to Dexter that she set a fire knowing that he asleep. Both Lila and the Skinner fit into Dexter's code...they were both murderers.
Does anyone know how many episodes are in this season? They usually have 12-13 episodes right? Are we even halfway through yet?
Does anyone know how many episodes are in this season? They usually have 12-13 episodes right? Are we even halfway through yet?
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I thought the scene between Dex and Deb in the parking lot was one of the best parts of the episode. I also liked the scenes between her and Rita. I know some people don't care for Jennifer Carpenter that much, but I think she's a great actress.
As for Rita, I think in the first couple of episodes her smothering behavior was overboard, but in this one it seemed justifiable. Dex has been lying to her over and over. Of course she'd be pissed about the apartment. My wife just wanted to know if she had implants since she was hanging out of her shirt for most of the episode.
As for Rita, I think in the first couple of episodes her smothering behavior was overboard, but in this one it seemed justifiable. Dex has been lying to her over and over. Of course she'd be pissed about the apartment. My wife just wanted to know if she had implants since she was hanging out of her shirt for most of the episode.
Darth Caedus
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I can see the point that Dexter usually acts and believes someone's guilty when he has evidence. But he's actually angry at the "person" who shot Deb and Lundy. He normally doesn't have these emotions and isn't used to having them. Even inner Harry thinks it no one other than Trinity that shot them. He wants revenge and I think it's going to be a crazy moment when he finds out it wasn't Trinity
As for Rita, I'm just hoping that she killed her first husband so she can end up on his table once and for all.....
@Dino, I think we are probably about half-way through with the season. Seems like all the exposition is done with and things just turned crazy, so it's on towards the end now.
As for Rita, I'm just hoping that she killed her first husband so she can end up on his table once and for all.....
@Dino, I think we are probably about half-way through with the season. Seems like all the exposition is done with and things just turned crazy, so it's on towards the end now.
DinoDB1975
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This is the first season of Dexter that I've watched as it progressed weekly. Caught the first and second season on demand, and when the third season came out I reclused myself from the show so I could basically watch the entire season on demand in as short a period as possible.
Just out of curiosity, how many people prefer watching it weekly as it progresses over a marathon viewing? I'm thinking I much better like watching the show weekly as it leaves you wanting more each week. There's something to be said for waiting until an entire season is available on demand; I guess the immediate gratification is what's appealing, but I'm starting to like the weekly serialized (no pun intended) approach more.
Just out of curiosity, how many people prefer watching it weekly as it progresses over a marathon viewing? I'm thinking I much better like watching the show weekly as it leaves you wanting more each week. There's something to be said for waiting until an entire season is available on demand; I guess the immediate gratification is what's appealing, but I'm starting to like the weekly serialized (no pun intended) approach more.
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The thing is, it doesn't make sense for Trinity because it doesn't fit his pattern. It doesn't make sense for Vacation Killers, because Deb's not dead (I too, thought it was odd that they mentioned that Deb's stuff was taken but they didn't show that, that's very important). It doesn't make sense for Anton because he's not a killer.
Then it's Occam's Razor. . . somebody else did it. We haven't met the killer yet. Or maybe it's just not that important. We know Deb loves to beat herself up, and perhaps Rita's right, sometimes bad things just happen.
Perhaps maybe the writers wrote themselves into a corner, they wanted to get Dexter close to Trinity, but didn't want to get Lundy and Dexter to work together because Lundy would look like an idiot working right next to a serial killer while trying to track a serial killer. So they wrote a twist into the story that made it look like different things to the different people involved.
Then it's Occam's Razor. . . somebody else did it. We haven't met the killer yet. Or maybe it's just not that important. We know Deb loves to beat herself up, and perhaps Rita's right, sometimes bad things just happen.
Perhaps maybe the writers wrote themselves into a corner, they wanted to get Dexter close to Trinity, but didn't want to get Lundy and Dexter to work together because Lundy would look like an idiot working right next to a serial killer while trying to track a serial killer. So they wrote a twist into the story that made it look like different things to the different people involved.
Colossus
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I can see the point that Dexter usually acts and believes someone's guilty when he has evidence. But he's actually angry at the "person" who shot Deb and Lundy. He normally doesn't have these emotions and isn't used to having them. Even inner Harry thinks it no one other than Trinity that shot them. He wants revenge and I think it's going to be a crazy moment when he finds out it wasn't Trinity
As for Rita, I'm just hoping that she killed her first husband so she can end up on his table once and for all.....
@Dino, I think we are probably about half-way through with the season. Seems like all the exposition is done with and things just turned crazy, so it's on towards the end now.
I think that the show is giving false direction by what facts that you may or maynot have, What person would gain from Lundy's Death other than the obvious, Trinity looked disapointed when he found out, Deb's boytoy Anton looked Hurt and Pissed when she broke it off, so who else maybe her Partner who arrived on the scene first ? Deb has been bustin his balls about his last partner? or maybe he wants her? just thought I would throw that out there.
Rita is becoming a Pain in the @$$ maybe Dexter will end up making Trinty mad and he will find out about him and take her out either by bleeding her or a Goraut, just wishing.
Marathoned it for the first 3 Seasons, found myself talking to myself like Dexter
now a Kill a week or every 2 weeks keeps me from jonesing to much
Devil_666
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Wait.. I think you missed my point. I thought you were saying you doubted Trinity in the Lundy death/Deb shooting because it didn't fit his normal M.O. ritual (Woman in a tub/Woman jumping from a building/Man bludgeoned to death). And the examples I gave didn't fit Dexter's normal M.O. ritual (tying up victims completely in plastic/showing them pics of people they've hurt/killed, taking a drop of their blood, etc.). You never see what happens to Lila.. but Dexter mentions changing up his ways!? Method of body dumping perhaps!? Doakes: Dexter was planning on framing him. And The Skinner, Dexter simply broke his neck and then made it look like an accident (Like he fell and the cop car killed him). So in that sense.. the same way Dexter killed The Skinner without his ritual it's possible Trinity killed Lundy without his ritual as well.
Hopefully that's clearer.
