Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[Darklord Dave]

The thing is, it doesn't make sense for Trinity because it doesn't fit his pattern. It doesn't make sense for Vacation Killers, because Deb's not dead (I too, thought it was odd that they mentioned that Deb's stuff was taken but they didn't show that, that's very important). It doesn't make sense for Anton because he's not a killer.

Then it's Occam's Razor. . . somebody else did it. We haven't met the killer yet. Or maybe it's just not that important. We know Deb loves to beat herself up, and perhaps Rita's right, sometimes bad things just happen.

Perhaps maybe the writers wrote themselves into a corner, they wanted to get Dexter close to Trinity, but didn't want to get Lundy and Dexter to work together because Lundy would look like an idiot working right next to a serial killer while trying to track a serial killer. So they wrote a twist into the story that made it look like different things to the different people involved.

The show doesn't really work that way - we have to have met the killer or at least know about them. Remember Lundy looks off, puzzled before he's shot, as if he saw something unusual, not like he saw someone pointing a gun at Deb. And I think they purposefully made Trinity look strange when he saw the newspaper article - he didn't really look surprised. And right after that he dropped his facade of Mr. Nice Guy with the waitress. His true self came out then. Perhaps he's a multiple personality and just realized his other side had killed Lundy.

 

[Devil_666]

Perhaps he's a multiple personality and just realized his other side had killed Lundy.

God I hope not. Remember "Raising Cain"?

 

[DinoLast]

I agree that it's not Anton, but there are still questions as to why they did not show the face of Lundy's killer.

 

[El Skutto]

I just watched it last night. Here are some thoughts.

Despite Dexter and pretty much everyone else believing it was Trinity who killed Lundy, I'm still not convinced. Why? Well, if it was Trinity, then why didn't they show us his face during the shooting scene? It's not like we didn't know he was a killer, so why hide the shooter's identity if you're just going to expose them in the following episode? I'm convinced they did it for a purpose, and that purpose is to surprise us when the actual shooter's identity is finally revealed.

However, I'm also no longer convinced Anton had anything to do with it. He's just a character they needed to write out of the series for some reason (maybe because the Producer, Michael C. Hall himself, is married to Jennifer Carpenter?). I can't remember who first mentioned this theory, but I'm also starting to warm to the thought that it's the reporter who did the killing.

It would be the classic case of creating news to stay on top. Like those firefighters who are later discovered to have been the ones setting the fires in the first place. In this case, she hit it big with her scoop on the Vacation Killers thanks to Quinn, but when he ended their relationship, she lost her source for her insider information. So, she goes out and kills someone according to the M.O. of the VK in order to generate yet more publicity and to once again be the one who gets the scoop. She knew about Lundy's background hunting for serial killers due to the article that was written about him, so his death would definitely be news-worthy. And she might have avoided killing Deb because she knew she was Quinn's partner and didn't want him removed from the case or something along those lines.

Whatever the reason, I still don't buy that Trinity shot Deb and Lundy. It's too easy, and the fact that they chose not to reveal the shooter's face speaks volumes.

And I still can't stand Deb and/or Rita.

 

[die]

It's all about thinking it through to a logical conclusion. I think the first 2 seasons did a great job of having the story make sense & still surprising us. Season 3 was kinda cheap in the fact that the Skinner was such a letdown (people were looking for something really clever out of that angle).



If Trinity shot Lundy & Deb:
It definitely doesn't fit his ritual, but what if Trinity came to Miami because he knows the Bay Harbor Butcher is still at large? I mean, it would be easy to do a little research and find out that questionable people in the Miami area are still vaninshing. Maybe he plans on having the Bay Harbor Butcher kill him and then dispose of him. That way he'll never go to jail and never have his family suffer with the shame. When he saw Lundy was hot on his trail, he saw it as a threat to spoil his master plan & quickly disposed of Lundy in a way that would draw attention to the Vacation Killers rather than the Trinity Killer.

 

[Darth Caedus]

Just rewatched the episode and I think I might have seen who might have done it. When Quinn called Deb to tell her that they got the perps who shot her, didn't he seem a LITTLE bit too happy when he told her.......Hmmmm..............

As for the Rita telling Dexter no secrets, I thought he was going to but out her first marriage right in her face. I totally forgot about that, she's not going to be happy when she finds that out

 

[El Skutto]

Oh yeah, that reminds me of something else. Dexter could have easily lied his way out of the apartment issue, too. All he had to do was show Rita some of the photos from the Trinity killings and tell her that he kept the apartment so that he'd have a place to work on his cases, away from distractions, and in such a place that the kids could never stumble across his work stuff. "I was doing it for the kids, Rita", might have worked.

 

[Tyler]

When Dexter told Deb's that she wasn't broken, he was the one that was broken. I thought it might lead to something more being said, but she didn't even register what he had said to her.

Rita is anoying and a little overbearing sometimes, but I think that all her previous partners have been so bad to her that she just want's Dexter to be her Mr Right/Perfect. Now she is not blinded by new love she is starting to see through his lies. It concerns her that Dexter might actually be a ^^^^ just like all her previous men.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Oh yeah, that reminds me of something else. Dexter could have easily lied his way out of the apartment issue, too. All he had to do was show Rita some of the photos from the Trinity killings and tell her that he kept the apartment so that he'd have a place to work on his cases, away from distractions, and in such a place that the kids could never stumble across his work stuff. "I was doing it for the kids, Rita", might have worked.

I was thinking that too. When he brought all of Lundy's files and reports to the apartment I thought she would've seen them when she arrived to confront him.

 

[Colossus]

Just rewatched the episode and I think I might have seen who might have done it. When Quinn called Deb to tell her that they got the perps who shot her, didn't he seem a LITTLE bit too happy when he told her.......Hmmmm..............

As for the Rita telling Dexter no secrets, I thought he was going to but out her first marriage right in her face. I totally forgot about that, she's not going to be happy when she finds that out

I agree on the Quinn angle, just a couple of us have touched on this topic, Theres just something about him that under the charm he's not what he seems to be?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I agree on the Quinn angle, just a couple of us have touched on this topic, Theres just something about him that under the charm he's not what he seems to be?

 

[Colossus]

Thats Good, Long Day need a Good Laugh, Thanks HW, you know Deb brought the phrase back

 

[SwedishHeat]

but I'm also starting to warm to the thought that it's the reporter who did the killing.

It would be the classic case of creating news to stay on top. Like those firefighters who are later discovered to have been the ones setting the fires in the first place. In this case, she hit it big with her scoop on the Vacation Killers thanks to Quinn, but when he ended their relationship, she lost her source for her insider information. So, she goes out and kills someone according to the M.O. of the VK in order to generate yet more publicity and to once again be the one who gets the scoop. She knew about Lundy's background hunting for serial killers due to the article that was written about him, so his death would definitely be news-worthy. And she might have avoided killing Deb because she knew she was Quinn's partner and didn't want him removed from the case or something along those lines.

I'll throw my weight behind this theory.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Thats Good, Long Day need a Good Laugh, Thanks HW, you know Deb brought the phrase back

Thanks man!!! I might be in the minority, but I can't stand that guy. Quinn is so shady he'd probably screw over his sister to make a quick buck.

~~Oh, D-bag never really went away. I've been using it for a long time. Basically learned it from being in the Army. If you want to hear something funny go on youtube and look for Jay Mohr's definition of D-Nozzle. It makes me cringe a little bit.

 

[El Skutto]

Theres just something about him that under the charm he's not what he seems to be?

I know what you mean. Everytime he comes on screen I'm reminded of the character he played in Ghost Ship, Ferriman.

 

[Colossus]

I know what you mean. Everytime he comes on screen I'm reminded of the character he played in Ghost Ship, Ferriman.

Yea theres that, you know that feeling you get when you meet some people in life that you don't trust or a sence of manipulation from them.

 

[El Skutto]

Yea theres that, you know that feeling you get when you meet some people in life that you don't trust or a sence of manipulation from them.

Yep, I know exactly what you mean. Up here we call those people "lawyers" or "real estate agents"...

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Yep, I know exactly what you mean. Up here we call those people "lawyers" or "real estate agents"...

Don't forget about most Doctors. Sorry, but I have nothing against most of them but something just makes me feel that they sell out to the highest bidding drug reps.

 

[El Skutto]

Don't forget about most Doctors. Sorry, but I have nothing against most of them but something just makes me feel that they sell out to the highest bidding drug reps.

Luckily, that's not an issue up here. Doctors' salaries are set by the government, so there's no benefit to prescribing unneccessary procedures or medications. They still do quite well, but not the millions doctors make in the US. And that's precisely the reason we have trouble keeping them here.

 

[Colossus]

Yep, I know exactly what you mean. Up here we call those people "lawyers" or "real estate agents"...

Don't forget everyones Favorite "Politians" I have a special distain for, and thats putting it nice *&^!t^&%*^&&%**%&&, I feel alittle better after that rant