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Odd that they'd give him a new costume just for promoting the BF adventures.

Maybe those rumors about him returning to the TV show may finally be coming true?

I go to see Doctor Who Live on Tuesday afternoon and a buddy who went to the Manchester performance last night told me it's great fun.

Most pleasing to hear was the news that the 11th Doctor is the one that's featured the most so that sounds like the clips and references to the previous era will be minimal at best :)

There's also some exclusive merchandise on sale...........no figures but several t-shirts, badges and posters to choose from so I'll be sure to pick something up.

Gonna be fun to see Daleks & Cybermen doing their thing in a live environment and some exclusive footage of Matt Smith as the Doctor :)
 
McGann looks pretty cool like a transistion from 8 to 9, and that screwdriver is sweet. Not a huge fan about the man-purse, a bit strange but at least McGann is still happy about being stuck to the Who role despite only doing one movie over 10 years ago.
 
Jacket is a bit too tight. Makes it look like its for a woman. And that screwdriver looks way too much like that ugly new one that 11 uses.

It amazes me how McGann is willing to do the audios for years and even gets in costume for promo shots, yet they wont bring him back for a spot on the tv show.
 
It amazes me how McGann is willing to do the audios for years and even gets in costume for promo shots, yet they wont bring him back for a spot on the tv show.

It would be lovely to see him, Eccleston and Tennant come back and do one of those Multi-Doctor stories. We've had The Two Doctors, The Three Doctors and The Five Doctors, bring on The Four Doctors.
 
Maybe they are gearing up for the big anniversary? i would love to see a 'Four Doctors'. I hope Eccleston would be up for that idea especially most of what he rumoured to dislike has gone, McGann would proberly play his Doc a little differently if he is coming from a war torn time period rather than his giddy post regeneration state.
 
It would be lovely to see him, Eccleston and Tennant come back and do one of those Multi-Doctor stories. We've had The Two Doctors, The Three Doctors and The Five Doctors, bring on The Four Doctors.

I'd sooner it was McCoy, McGann, Eccleston & Smith because if the other chap returned it's almost a cert that RTD would get involved and turn whole thing into another installment of the love story between 10 & Rose with everyone else getting minimal screen time and being made to seem less important.

Would it really be worth seeing McGann & co as the Doctor again just to see them reduced to being the butt of 10's jokes because that's what'd happen.......look at how he spoke to 5 during that "Time Crash" thing.

I think it would be nicer to see McGann and McCoy get another chance to shine alongside the current Doctor and as Eccleston was never really part of RTD's team ( hence his quick departure ) I'd be fine with him returning as Moffat wrote his best story.

From what I've seen of 7 so far I'd be intrested to see how he got along with the others as he always seemed to be scheming & plotting.......I get the impression he'd be trying to play his other incarnations off against each other .................would that count as playing with himself? :lol

I got "The Seeds of Doom" on region 2 DVD today so I'm gonna watch that later to get myself in the mood for the show tomorrow :rock
 
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Steampunk sonic screwdriver is amazing!!! Good to see McGann is still willing to play along. I'd like to see them bring him in for a guest show. They could use the opportunity to recon away some of the sillier points in the TVM (such as "half human").

Prince called from the 80's and wants his jacket back.

New 8th Doctor sonic:

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bcm77;293369 Would it really be worth seeing McGann & co as the Doctor again just to see them reduced to being the butt of 10's jokes because that's what'd happen.......look at how he spoke to 5 during that "Time Crash" thing. [/QUOTE said:
After watching "Death of the Doctor" i dont think i would ever like to see RTD helm another Who episode, light has been seen! but i still think Tennant was a great Doctor and i quite like time crash, not Moffats best work but it wasnt awful, plus i dont think 9 or war torn 8 would put up with 10's chipper attitude for long before they place 8's new shiny sonic somewhere 10's sun dont shine lol. i think it could have some great chemistry but without forcing a 'fued' like 2 and 3 had. I think Troughten and Pertwee's bickering made the multi-doc storys much more entertaining.
 
It would be fun to see Sylv again, especially if Ace were brought back as well, but I can't imagine McCoy is still in shape to play the Doctor, he's got to be getting up in years by now. I wouldn't want to see him like Pat was in The Two Doctors.
 
After watching "Death of the Doctor" i dont think i would ever like to see RTD helm another Who episode,

I've just read a description of the manner in which the 12 regeneration limit has been written off and rolled my eyes as it was exactly what I expected.

Having an immortal hero essentially nukes the credibility of any villain from this point onwards as it becomes impossible for anyone over the age of about 12 to accept that the Doctor can ever be in any danger.

I sincerely hope this latest brainfart is just a case of Moffat allowing RTD to have a last fling with the character and a year or two down the line it gets dismissed as a joke or some kind of ploy from the Doctor to keep humanity guessing about him.

The 12 regeneration limit was always going to be changed but it would have been nice to see it handled with an intresting storyline instead of a typically lame effort from the man who's done far more harm to the Doctor than any of his onscreen enemies or Michael Grade ever did.

The animosity between Doctors 2 & 3 was based on the initial backstage relationship between Jon & Pat though they eventually became good friends.

TheObsoleteMan,
I saw some pics of Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred from a convention they attended in Australia a week or so back and they both looked OK.....Sly has a bit less hair and has put on some weight but doesn't look a whole lot different and Sophie would just need to grow her hair long again.
 
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It is hard to give a turd about a Hero who cannot really die, i do liek how RTD tried to make regeneration seem a little bit more like dying rather than a quick change of face and clothes, although it didnt matter because he was dying anyways. But we will never ever see the Doctoro die properly, partly because it would be all over the news beforehand and because BBC will never allow a scene where an enemy dismembers him. I think il just disclude SJA as canon, its a side project starring a very well aged women and some shoddy writing.
 
I think il just disclude SJA as canon, its a side project starring a very well aged women and some shoddy writing.

Anything with RTD's name on the credits = Null & void :)

As for Elisabeth Sladen having aged well I would have agreed until I saw the promo shots with Katy Manning and Matt Smith where she looked like an Auton.

Apparently John f'ing Barrowman suggested she have some work done and it appears she let a trainee have a go with a hacksaw and some sculpy.
 
Look looks great next to Katy Manning, she just doesnt look right although i did enjoy 11's line "you look like you've been baked" when he saw her lol

I sat through SJA wanting more Doctor because its been a while, as Tennant did with SJA he just showed up within the last 2 mins or so, hoping tommorows episode has more 11 involved so i can last untill xmas special. I downloaded some classic who episodes and am currently watching the 'Arc of Infinity' as i have not seen too much of 5's reign, its quite enjoyable but i find it hard to deal with the pace of some episodes when i have become acustomed to the 100mph speed of nu-who.
 
Katy Manning looks like her head has shrunk and her mouth stayed the same size..........if only all Who companions could age as gracefully as Louise Jameson,

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She probably wouldn't get into the Leela costume these days but she still looks fantastic for a woman in her late 50's :)

IMO the only 5th Doctor stories worth the time are "Earthshock" and his last story "The Caves Of Androzani".........the former for the Cyber Leader's use of the word "Excellent!" and the death of a companion and the latter because it's the only time Davison wasn't utterly boring.

His regeneration is also amusing as the final thing the 5th Doctor sees is a close view of his companion's cleavage..............not a bad way to go out that :)
 
Cool bit of fan art. I honestly can see a need for the Doctor to not dress so conspicuously during the Time War and adopting this dress. Then in what he thinks is his final act (ending the Time War) he dresses back in the costume he is known for, not scared of anyone and in a bold act ends the Time War. :D

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Thats a great piece of fanart there, he has a traveller/explorer look about him, very Indy Jones or Brendan Fraiser from The mummy esque.
 
Cool bit of fan art. I honestly can see a need for the Doctor to not dress so conspicuously during the Time War and adopting this dress. Then in what he thinks is his final act (ending the Time War) he dresses back in the costume he is known for, not scared of anyone and in a bold act ends the Time War. :D

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You call him Doctor Jones. :lol
 
SJA had quite a lot of 11 yesterday, also had plenty of flashbacks and refrences to old companions including Teagan and Chesterton (who both Ian and Babs havent aged since the 60's and all of them worked in charitys) it was also revealed that on 10's last days he visited every single companion (except Adric) which must of took some time. RTD didnt make 11 seem like 10 that much but almost everyline he was talking about him but at least the flash backs had equal time for almost every doctor bar 5 - 9. It really was awful though and now the Doctor can regenertae 507 times into any thing, which seems like a number drawen out of a hat why not just 500? Typical RTD episode that made no sense, Enemys build a memory machine to recreate a Tardis key using SJS and Jo..Jones but the Memory machine breaks because it has too many memories (like 30 or so)! Typical 'Smith and Jones' reference to be made and it was utilised to the max.
 
My verdict on Doctor Who Live,

I'm finally convinced of Steven Moffat's genius because his stage show takes every one of RTD's lame, overblown "nods" to the Classic era and kicks them into oblivion.

Although a celebration of the creatures of Nu-Who the whole concept is taken directly from the Jon Pertwee story "Carnival of Monsters" and the character Vorgenson ( played by Nigel Planer ) turned out to be the son of the showman Vorg from the Pertwee story.

One of the first things he said was "Welcome to my carnival of monsters!" and later he referred to a "Dalek Masterplan"..............such lines probably went over the heads of the majority of the audience but as a Classic fan I appreciated them.

As for the action.................bloody amazing. I was sat at an angle to the stage on the 3rd row back of the lowest tiered section and was roughly 30 feet away from the stage at the same height.

Many of the creatures emerged from the back of the arena and walked down either sides of the floor seating to the stage and from my position I was less then 10 feet away from the following as they came past,

An Ood
A couple of these were the first creatures out and helped introduce Vorgenson. Their balls glowed. ( As in their communicator thing :wink1: )

Judoon Officer
Arrived with 2 helmeted ones and he stomped down the aisle and kept pausing to "scan" the crowd with a gadget he was holding including the section where I was sitting so I was literally looking straight at one for a few seconds. He joined up with his lackeys and they proceeded to "catalog" the entire floor section which caused a few kids to get a bit scared. They also attempted to arrest Vorgenson.

3 Cybermen
There were 6 in total and no words can adequately describe how awesome they look at close range. There was a plant on the front row using a camera who got dragged onto the stage by a Cyberman and "deleted".........the number of scared kids and cameras that suddenly disappeared was hilarious. One smartass girl behind me attempted to calm her brother down by saying "It's not real, they're only actors" :rotfl

2 Vampires
CO may have made a figure of the male one but the 4 in this show are female and VERY nice they were too!

2 Clockwork Robots
The lights went off for a few seconds and then the ticking of their workings started up. The lights came back on and there were 2 directly in front of me and 2 across the other side of the arena. They made their way to the stage and did a bit of robotic dancing which was pretty funny.

2 Scarecrows
Saw quite a lot of these as aside from their main appearance they were going up and down the floor seating during the interval and scaring people at random.......they kept looking for people sat on the end who were looking the other way and standing there until the person looked round. Several people got a bit of a suprise!

3 Silurians emerged from a trapdoor in the stage and looked way better than their TV appearance because,

1.The masks stayed on
2.The people in the costumes were clearly pro dancers because they moved a lot more gracefully.

There was a shootout between Liz 10 and the Smilers/Winders which covered a large area of the arena.....her aim was about as effective as UNIT Trooper though.

Moffat's greatest creations got an awesome little scene. There were only 2 Weeping Angels but they took out 4 police officers who had been dispatched to check out a "disturbance" in the arena.

Interspersed with all this were several montages on a big screen accompanied by music from the live orchestra.

There were mostly clips from the last series or monster only clips from the RTD years but the best one showed all the regenerations in the show's history though it was nearly spoiled for me by the cheering that accompanied Eccleston's regeneration into HIM..........actually it didn't spoil things because I was booing for the duration of his mug being on the screen ( about 20-30 seconds ).

There was also plenty of new footage of Matt Smith as the Doctor interacting with Vorgenson and a couple of times he enlisted the help of the audience and we had to shout "Geronimo!" at an increasingly loud volume :)

As for the finale.............Vorgenson was revealed to be the latest in a long line of people manipulated by the Daleks as part of a scheme to lure the Doctor into a trap.

Did they show up?

Oh yes...........all freaking 5 of the new ones :rock

Much has been said about the new designs and color schemes and most of it total garbage. I would advise any detractors to shut the hell up unless they've seen how imposing they look in person and how well the bright colors work with various lights and pyro reflecting off them.

Nothing will replace the grey & black "Genesis" Daleks as my favorite but in a show like this they'd look boring.

Nick Briggs was doing all the voices so they sounded perfect and just when it couldn't get any better the Cybermen reappeared at the back of the stage and attacked the Daleks!

There were lasers flashing, various explosions and jets of flame, a Cyberman went down with masses of sparks coming from his chest and then it happened..........the white Dalek TOOK OFF and flew around which caused the place to go nuts!

I bought a programme and a t-shirt with the Dalek "To Victory!" image on it which were pricey but are good quality.

What really made the event for was me the way it was tied into the canon without overdoing the references to the past and without making it seem less important....considering Moffat once dismissed everything pre Davison I never saw it coming and I love suprises like that.

My main issue with Nu-Who has always been the writing and 1000mph pacing but the creatures work perfectly in a show like this and it was well worth the money.

Good job RTD didn't think of it otherwise it'd have had Cybermen performing the hits of the Village People and Captain Jack singing show tunes :)
 
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That sounds awesome! great value for money, i wish i had picked up some tickets, the Dalek flying sounds sweet! sounds like hell of a show, thanks for the write up.
 
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