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[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Well, you have the doom PF, RB, does it all of a sudden become a lesser piece with this LSF reveal? Did the quality spontaneously decrease? If you had to sell your doom PF, would you now say, "geez, the LSF is available, so I better cut my asking price in half"?

The LSF looks incredible, but I honestly prefer the design of the PF. Most PF's (and LSF's for that matter) are in the same general pose...I love the seated pose and the throne is incredible.

Now, is the PF worth 2k? Depends on a lot of things. There are still not that many available. Do you think everyone is going to start selling their PF's now? I don't think the supply of PF's is going to now drastically increase, the question is, does the demand for the PF now change?

I think the real threat to the PF's value is the upcoming new doom PF. But that said, several characters have had multiple statues produced now (hulk, Spidey, soon cap)...has the value of the older pieces dropped with the release of newer ones?

I think you hit the nail on head in regards to the demand for the original Doom PF possibly being affected by the arrival of the new PF. Certainly have a point there, although that will be decided once we see what the new PF looks like.

Yes, i have the original Doom PF and will also be getting the LSF. How do i feel about both? In my opinion the two are very different pieces in that the poses are completely different, not to mention the size, etc...i'm gonna sound like my wife now but in this case size does matter and i will probably favour the LSF over my PF but thats only cos i have quite a few LSF's now and they are literally the cream of the crop for collectors imo. Will i be selling my PF? Absolutely not the PF still commands respect for me and i cant see myself ever parting with it.

 

[electroshock]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I have the doom pf ex and think it would be a mistake to sell it to get cash for lsf, although If someone offered me $ 2000 and with this amount i could pay the LSF,

are two completely different pieces, is like the colossus pf and the colossus from diorama xmen vs. sentinel # 1, both are great pieces ,bigger is not better if not more flashy,the real value is in the details

so,dont compare pieces all the time,this is a mistake,it´s like compare dexter,breaking bad,fringe,mad men.big bang theory,how mi meet ur mother..etc...all are diferent but great for me,I can´t put any above the other

 

[lian]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I think you're being a little too overcritical of people here. By your logic you should never purchase anything that you can't recoup the value of your money on. Dinners out?....forget it. Stay in and eat canned soup instead. Play golf with some friends on a gorgeous day?....No thank you, I can't resell that experience so I'll just pass. Buy some new clothes?....I can just go to the salvation army for cheap, worn, old clothes for a fraction of the price instead. Yet people do those things mainly for the "feeling" or "experience" not to recoup their investment in them with another dollar value. The "value".....is in the personal satisfaction/fulfilled desire. And everyone's value is different in this hobby, but we all in some way, shape, or form have one.

My point is this hobby has nothing to do with investment tbh. Most choices in life don't really. We buy to survive only part of the time. Mostly we buy to fulfill wants, desires, and pleasures. Can we make money on certain purchases? Yea, we do. Can we break even most of the time? Yea, I'd say so. Should we buy for investment reasons?....Hellll no. Should you buy something even only if it makes you happy?....Well that's your choice, but I'd say most of us are here for the primary reason of "this hobby makes me happy and I enjoy doing it" not "I could make some money doing this".

Can't really put a price on that now can you.

BTW: I think this piece is ridiculously awesome and compared to all other LSFs you get the most bang for your buck. Just matters how much your bang is worth to your buck.

Wish I could afford/afford to display it.

 

[electroshock]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

some things just dont have value

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

some things just dont have value

 

[Asdf]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Lucky for US collectors, as the window time for ordering Doom is available for long period of time. International buyers may have a chance to PO this through a local distributor, but the window gap available for it is short, probably 1month. After that you need to purchase through SS, and the shipping will be insane.

Btw I never purchased LSF, is it that much nicer than PF guys? For those who own Wolverine LSF, do you sell all your smaller scale Wolverine and just keep the LSF or you still keep them all as your collectibles? I am trying to see the LSF collectors point of view. And space is definitely an issue.

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Btw I never purchased LSF, is it that much nicer than PF guys? For those who own Wolverine LSF, do you sell all your smaller scale Wolverine and just keep the LSF or you still keep them all as your collectibles? I am trying to see the LSF collectors point of view. And space is definitely an issue.

I can only give you my opinion Asdf, as i'm sure everyone is different, but for me the LSF's are awesome! Its something that you'll only experience when you literally have it infront of you rather than just looking at the pictures. I had the Wolverine PF but sold mine way before i purchased the Wolvie LSF, i actually didnt like the PF very much inhand which was a shame as i went through hell to get the Exclusive! Still, the LSF is without doubt the definitive Wolvie collectable so i'm happy. You definately need space if your displaying them all in one room having just the on LSF really wouldnt take up that much space i dont think...its when you become addicted to the scale that you start purchasing your second and third LSF when it gets a bit cramped!

Im sure Alex (Averone) would be able to give you a good opinion in regards to LSF's...his 1/2 scale collection is awesome!

 

[filip629]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Atheris

I think your arguments to those who said that they will buy it are based on simple envy.

you like the piece but you can't afford it and that takes you to try justify calling us sheep of Sideshow

Have you seen his collection? I doubt there are many here who spends the kind of money Chris does on his collectibles. I happen to agree with what he says. That being said, I'm a firm believer in the "it's your money, so spend it how you like" philosophy.

 

[Bmutha]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I think you hit the nail on head in regards to the demand for the original Doom PF possibly being affected by the arrival of the new PF. Certainly have a point there, although that will be decided once we see what the new PF looks like.

Yes, i have the original Doom PF and will also be getting the LSF. How do i feel about both? In my opinion the two are very different pieces in that the poses are completely different, not to mention the size, etc...i'm gonna sound like my wife now but in this case size does matter and i will probably favour the LSF over my PF but thats only cos i have quite a few LSF's now and they are literally the cream of the crop for collectors imo. Will i be selling my PF? Absolutely not the PF still commands respect for me and i cant see myself ever parting with it.

I think that will be the sentiment of most collectors, so like I said, I don't see the market being flooded with Doom PF's all of a sudden. So, I believe that if you want a Doom PF, you'll still have to pay the price (based on simple supply and demand). The number of potential buyers may dwindle somewhat because some will spend their money on the LSF (and good on them, it looks incredible), but there will be people out there who would rather have the PF. The good thing about the two is that they are so different from each other, so it probably just comes down to taste (and possibly space considerations as well...but I'd make room for the right LSF...cough...Spider-Man...cough).

 

[Collectorcol]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Have you seen his collection? I doubt there are many here who spends the kind of money Chris does on his collectibles. I happen to agree with what he says. That being said, I'm a firm believer in the "it's your money, so spend it how you like" philosophy.

I'm pretty sure there's a couple of unnumbered pieces in there

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I think that will be the sentiment of most collectors, so like I said, I don't see the market being flooded with Doom PF's all of a sudden. So, I believe that if you want a Doom PF, you'll still have to pay the price (based on simple supply and demand). The number of potential buyers may dwindle somewhat because some will spend their money on the LSF (and good on them, it looks incredible), but there will be people out there who would rather have the PF. The good thing about the two is that they are so different from each other, so it probably just comes down to taste (and possibly space considerations as well...but I'd make room for the right LSF...cough...Spider-Man...cough).

Absolutely thats what i like about the 2 Dooms is that they each portray a different side to Doom which i like. As for the new PF, its hard to tell just yet on how its gonna look but from the legs alone it looks very similarly posed to that of the LSF...watch this space

 

[Bmutha]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I can only give you my opinion Asdf, as i'm sure everyone is different, but for me the LSF's are awesome! Its something that you'll only experience when you literally have it infront of you rather than just looking at the pictures. I had the Wolverine PF but sold mine way before i purchased the Wolvie LSF, i actually didnt like the PF very much inhand which was a shame as i went through hell to get the Exclusive! Still, the LSF is without doubt the definitive Wolvie collectable so i'm happy. You definately need space if your displaying them all in one room having just the on LSF really wouldnt take up that much space i dont think...its when you become addicted to the scale that you start purchasing your second and third LSF when it gets a bit cramped!

Im sure Alex (Averone) would be able to give you a good opinion in regards to LSF's...his 1/2 scale collection is awesome!

When I first read that I thought you were referring to the Doom PF, so I was like Wolverine PF, although I quite like it, I can understand, though...

Have you seen his collection? I doubt there are many here who spends the kind of money Chris does on his collectibles. I happen to agree with what he says. That being said, I'm a firm believer in the "it's your money, so spend it how you like" philosophy.

I agree with this. I will never rip on someone else for how they spend their money. There are many pieces out there that people love owning and I think, "are they crazy, that looks like garbage" (and I'm sure vice versa as well), but it's their money, and if it makes them happy then that's great!

Atheris makes some good points, and if you are very concerned with future value and ES, I think you need to take what he says into account.

I lean more towards buying what you like, but that's just me.

 

[filip629]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

As already mentioned I have several numbered statues I will never recoup my money on. I can't sell my Bucky for half what I payed
A number does not equal investment or safe bet.

Bucky Cap is just not a popular character. On top of that, the EX COH is not very well done to boot. Whether or not it has an ES plays no part in its value. There are a few pieces that fall into this category. Namor and Bullseye Com along with the White Queen PF to name a few. These statutes were just not well received.

If a statue is well made and coveted by collectors, an ES certainly helps them not only hold value but also increases it. What if the original Doom, Hulk, Cap, and Thor PF had an open ES? Do you really think they would command the kind of dollars they do now? If someone paid between 1K-2K to purchase any of these statues in the aftermarket and they had an open ES, how would they feel if SSC decided to run and sell another batch of them at retail? Let's not forget how SSC built their business. It wasn't on open ES merch that can be re released at anytime. That is why I will not spend money on open ES pieces. I refuse to give SSC the kind of money they are charging for their merch and then leave it open for re release at any point SSC sees fit to do so. It wasn't like that when I started collecting.

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

When I first read that I thought you were referring to the Doom PF, so I was like Wolverine PF, although I quite like it, I can understand, though...

definately not Doom mate! Could never sell that As for the Wolvie PF, ihe was an impulse buy more than anything and was quite early on in my collecting days that i purchased him (along with the Sabretooth EX) but was just one of the pieces that just didnt excite me when inhand...

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

If a statue is well made and coveted by collectors, an ES certainly helps them not only hold value but also increases it. What if the original Doom, Hulk, Cap, and Thor PF had an open ES? Do you really think they would command the kind of dollars they do now? If someone paid between 1K-2K to purchase any of these statues in the aftermarket and they had an open ES, how would they feel if SSC decided to run and sell another batch of them at retail? Let's not forget how SSC built their business. It wasn't on open ES merch that can be re released at anytime. That is why I will not spend money on open ES pieces. I refuse to give SSC the kind of money they are charging for their merch and then leave it open for re release at any point SSC sees fit to do so. It wasn't like that when I started collecting.

I think you explain your points more clearer than what Chris was trying to do filip and so i can understand a little better what you guys were trying to say. All your points have relevance and i hear what you are saying. I think, however, its like what Bmutha said about how one spends their money and it being their choice etc...

One question i have is how does having an open ES benefit Sideshow? Like you mentioned, it never used to be like this when i first started out collecting so wondered why more and more of their releases now have open ES's?

 

[Bmutha]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

definately not Doom mate! Could never sell that As for the Wolvie PF, ihe was an impulse buy more than anything and was quite early on in my collecting days that i purchased him (along with the Sabretooth EX) but was just one of the pieces that just didnt excite me when inhand...

I get that. In all honesty, I was a little...disappointed is a strong word...let's say less than thrilled...with the Thor PF **ducks**. Could have something to do with the fact that mine was broken, so I couldn't fully appreciate it, though (But, my modern Thor custom is now the favorite in my collection).

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I get that. In all honesty, I was a little...disappointed is a strong word...let's say less than thrilled...with the Thor PF **ducks**. Could have something to do with the fact that mine was broken, so I couldn't fully appreciate it, though (But, my modern Thor custom is now the favorite in my collection).

I think the fact that it arrived broken may have had something to do with it...Thor is seriously an awesome piece and one of Sideshows best sculpts to date imo. Still, your modern Thor custom is still a killer piece

 

[Bmutha]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I think you explain your points more clearer than what Chris was trying to do filip and so i can understand a little better what you guys were trying to say. All your points have relevance and i hear what you are saying. I think, however, its like what Bmutha said about how one spends their money and it being their choice etc...

One question i have is how does having an open ES benefit Sideshow? Like you mentioned, it never used to be like this when i first started out collecting so wondered why more and more of their releases now have open ES's?

That is a good question, and I really don't know the answer. It could be like Atheris said, SS trying to tap into the aftermarket value...not exactly sure how the open ES allows them to do it, but that's why I'm not a marketing guru...

 

[electroshock]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

Have you seen his collection? I doubt there are many here who spends the kind of money Chris does on his collectibles. I happen to agree with what he says. That being said, I'm a firm believer in the "it's your money, so spend it how you like" philosophy.

Yeas, i've seen, and I see so much money spent quickly, there's a lot of fanboys of the richmen here

 

[Bmutha]

Re: Dr. Doom LSF!

I think the fact that it arrived broken may have had something to do with it...Thor is seriously an awesome piece and one of Sideshows best sculpts to date imo. Still, your modern Thor custom is still a killer piece

He is...but...he's hollow