Same ******** with Kelvin timeline figures. He has an obsession with Beyond, but the first two films have better uniforms and villains. He'll make Jaylah, but not Krall. Away uniforms, but not duty uniforms.
Time marches on, and new actors are inevitable. What I didn't like was the way they took established things and just blew them up just to make them "cool" for the kiddies. Hey look! We can beam across the galaxy! Hey look! MY new Enterprise is 10 times bigger than the old TV Enterprise! Hey look! We'll make a cadet that hasn't even graduated the academy the Captain of the Enterprise, bypassing hundreds of other more experienced and qualified people! Hey look, we'll have an engine room that looks just like and ancient beer factory! JJ Abrams destroys everything he touches, and **** like that gives me the red ass, same as discovery and in some cases SNW with a Pikes cabin being the size of the hanger deck. Needless to say, I won't be buying those figures.I couldn't care less about the Kelvin timeline, it's manufactured Trek. The original cast naturally started the movie series and then the Next Generation crew naturally took over when they were done. The new movies just took actors and put them in iconic roles and we were supposed to accept it.
I never got fully invested in any of the newer series aside from Picard S3 however there’s been a flurry of articles as of late about the finale of Lower Decks and how it suggests Discovery has been “de-canonized” but I view it as being in an alternate timeline.Complain about the scale of the enterprise app you want. I basically agree. But have you SEEN the turbo lift scene in Discovery?!
You want TRAVESTY? Look no further!!!
I never got fully invested in any of the newer series aside from Picard S3 however there’s been a flurry of articles as of late about the finale of Lower Decks and how it suggests Discovery has been “de-canonized” but I view it as being in an alternate timeline.
Lower Decks mentions a multiverse and the Kling-Orcs as seen in Discovery are referenced.
To a person who has seen TOS and Berman Trek, that’s always been obvious as it’s ludicrous to buy into the idea that it predates TOS as we know it given the technology differences and the elephant in the room being the Constitution Class.
Beyond is a decent Trek movie imo, but I totally agree with all this. Beyond not having most of this specific idiocy is a part of what elevates it to me-- you can more or less watch it as a TOS story that even builds on ENT, unlike the obnoxiously crass slap-in-the-face 2-hour non sequitur that was Into Darkness.Time marches on, and new actors are inevitable. What I didn't like was the way they took established things and just blew them up just to make them "cool" for the kiddies. Hey look! We can beam across the galaxy! Hey look! MY new Enterprise is 10 times bigger than the old TV Enterprise! Hey look! We'll make a cadet that hasn't even graduated the academy the Captain of the Enterprise, bypassing hundreds of other more experienced and qualified people! Hey look, we'll have an engine room that looks just like and ancient beer factory! JJ Abrams destroys everything he touches, and **** like that gives me the red ass, same as discovery and in some cases SNW with a Pikes cabin being the size of the hanger deck. Needless to say, I won't be buying those figures.
I never got fully invested in any of the newer series aside from Picard S3 however there’s been a flurry of articles as of late about the finale of Lower Decks and how it suggests Discovery has been “de-canonized” but I view it as being in an alternate timeline.
Lower Decks mentions a multiverse and the Kling-Orcs as seen in Discovery are referenced.
To a person who has seen TOS and Berman Trek, that’s always been obvious as it’s ludicrous to buy into the idea that it predates TOS as we know it given the technology differences and the elephant in the room being the Constitution Class.
The only Canon that matters is your personal canon! The studio can vomit out whatever product they want; WE can decide what we accept!I always thought that was a terrible way to look at it.
Look, it's all canon. The DSC Klingons were less of a departure than the TMP Klingons. It just is what it is.
I agree about the room sizes seeming crazy, but I chalk that up to it being easier to shoot in larger rooms.
Eh I'm fine just ignoring the stuff I don't like while still accepting it as the "official canon." Although personally for me that's not something I've run into much with Trek... unlike with SW and the MCU which has far more offensively bad stuff in it by this point.The only Canon that matters is your personal canon! The studio can vomit out whatever product they want; WE can decide what we accept!
Kirk's death in Generations? NOT CANON!
Any & All Kurtzman/ JJ Trek? NOT CANON!
70's & 80's Bantam/Pocket Books? CANON!
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