Fantastic Four reboot

[RIDDICK]

I believe what you described, is the literal definition of insanity

Speaking of which, I'm off to play Far Cry 3 - a better waste of time than talking about this "film".

 

[SNIKT1950]

I couldn't believe it was in the finished film like that.

Actually I really couldn't believe that action scene with the Thing being dropped out of a stealth bomber that was in every single trailer wasn't in the film. I get the very distinct impression the relatively unknown outfit Trank handed the CGI duties to, especially with the reshoots and rumours of poor communication, endless demands for revisions, etc, couldn't actually finish some of the shots and that's why those scenes were completely absent from the film.

Actually that shot of Thing was part of Trank's original cut which was shown to test screenings. Its from the original third act where the FF and Doom have a much longer cat and mouse game in Area 57.

 

[loki2371]

Nah, what he was getting at was that this thread is only for people who want to bash this movie. Not only is that absurdly incorrect, its quite idiotic.

But go ahead, cheer on the idiocy, bruh.

That wasn't nice... I didn't call you an *****...





My gifs don't work??

 

[Khev]

Anyways, I just got back from this cinematic version of a hooker on an abortion table.

I will say this, Tim Story's F4 movies are masterpieces compared to this.

They might've **** on the source material and had a not so great Reed, Sue and Doom plus a human size Thing but at least there was an element of a fun and energetic family dynamic with some pretty decent action, a comic book come to life.

This movie was made by someone who had no business trying to emulate a great like Cronenberg in writing, directing and character study.

You could tell it was made by someone who thought they were being a genius when in reality they were outputting grade school drama.

Directing/Writing is much more than just talking about a great idea and vision with cinematic history being thrown around trying to sound all smart, any ***** can talk big.

Filmmaking is about working with hundreds of people simultaneously from dozens of departments to bring that vision to life, empowering others with your confidence and gaining their respect and trust thru a collabrative process starting at the top all the way to the bottom.

The second the departments lose faith in their director they're immediately going to the producers to complain and the snow ball starts there.

Trank is a little kid driving a car on the LA freeway, **** is going to go bad quick!

The build up in this movie, the first "quality" hour, was even worse than what Tim Story gave us, because at least Tim Story was mature enough to follow thru all the way to the end with his build up.

Don't even get me started on the so called superhero action. It made no ****ing sense!

This movie is a 1/10.

Nah, **** that, 0/10.

I would stand in Times Square naked with a sign that said "Godzilla is Coming, We're All Doomed!" before I ever watch this movie again.

Damn. You and I were both able to see the good in ASM2 despite its many flaws. I can't even imagine how bad a superhero movie must be for you to rate it accordingly. I'm *almost* tempted to watch it just to see how terrible a movie can be.

 

[Adolfo]

Netflix for me

 

[pturtle]

Yep.
I don't remember everyone ganging up on fox whe DOFP came out.

They were before it came out though.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Actually that shot of Thing was part of Trank's original cut which was shown to test screenings. Its from the original third act where the FF and Doom have a much longer cat and mouse game in Area 57.

Test screenings generally don't have entirely completed visual effects, but nonetheless I'd be very interested to see that cut and find out if it redeems this film in any way.

 

[Pajji]

Cousin owed me $10. Took me to see this movie last night as payment (free popcorn too!)....


He still owes me $10.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Cousin owed me $10. Took me to see this movie last night as payment (free popcorn too!)....


He still owes me $10.

He should owe you $20

 

[jye4ever]

I thought The Swarm did that in '78?


What is GR2?

Ghost Rider 2

Damn. You and I were both able to see the good in ASM2 despite its many flaws. I can't even imagine how bad a superhero movie must be for you to rate it accordingly. I'm *almost* tempted to watch it just to see how terrible a movie can be.

Khev,

ASM2, any movie really that is completed, is better than this.

Nothing made sense in this, none of the dots connected.

It has nothing to do with the FF4!

How could Fox release this mess.

This was a rights thing, had to be.

 

[Biojex]

Another thing...I don't think the actors they chose have the gravitas to deal with the super hero bits in this movie. Theyre all fine when they're doing quiet indie style scenes with (trying to be) witty dialogue back and forth, but as soon as things start to get action oriented and they need to be yelling and screaming, mourning over dead characters and proclaiming dramatic comic dialogue between villain and hero, it becomes cringe worthy very quickly...i love the actor playing papa storm and he was great through out...but his death acting was lulz

 

[a-dev]

They were before it came out though.

I think the point was a lot of people willingly ate crow on that one when it actually turned out to be an enjoyable movie (for most)

 

[pturtle]

Damn. You and I were both able to see the good in ASM2 despite its many flaws. I can't even imagine how bad a superhero movie must be for you to rate it accordingly. I'm *almost* tempted to watch it just to see how terrible a movie can be.

Heres the thing for me, ASM 2 is a better movie than this, but that's only because it's a finished product, the director might not have liked what he made but it's still all Marc Webb, and that movie also had editing problems but not to the point that things didn't make sense and contradicted an already messy first half.

I'm in a tough spot with this film, overall it definitely is a mess, and people that like to nitpick will definitely have a field day with this. At the end of the day, there's just so much taken out and rearranged that I feel sorry for the cast and crew. I honestly believe everyone was so confident early on in production because there was a really good movie being made, now after what happened they have to deal with starring in a movie that was put together by a studio hoping to salvage whatever they could, to make their budget back. There seemed to be a lot of passion from Trank and the actors going into this movie, by the time it came to promotion, especially at comic con, they just looked like they gave up.

I'm not like most here, I'm not taking pleasure in the fact that these people attempted to make a really good movie and ended up being bullied into making some generic incoherent crap put together last minute by Fox. I respect what Trank tried to do with this film and at the end of the day he failed, I don't believe it's because he's a bad filmmaker, but I don't have all the facts. Bashing the movie is fine, I actually don't think it's worse than X-Men Origins, thats the worst of the worst for me, but I get it, if I was to just watch this movie and not know about any of the problems that went on behind the scenes I would probably be bashing it too. What is a bit troubling, is that people are taking pleasure in this, hoping it failed, and now that it did, they're happy. I'm not just talking about here on SSF, I'm talking about all over the Internet, and most of these people bashing the are Trank and the main cast are older then them. I would hope that some of these people who hate the cast because they didn't like that they were cocky or confident look at half of their posts, they're a lot worse and obnoxious than anything Trank or the cast has said while filming this movie.

At the end of the day, the comic book purists always have a major problem when a filmmaker tries to give us more than just an epic action packed blockbuster that strays a bit from the comics. That's why the movie was being ripped on for a long time, it was being ripped on before there was even a synopsis, the same happened with DOFP and when the movie turned out good, most of the trolls left that thread.

At the end of the day it was a bad movie, Fox has proven they don't deserve to make another F4 film, and I hope the director and cast bounce back from this. Actually, I think the cast will be fine, especially Michael B Jordan, but Trank might have a hard time finding work after this debacle. As untalented as I think Joss Whedon is, I wasn't in the Avengers thread happy about all the feminists running him off off Twitter. The Internet can be pretty ruthless

I think the point was a lot of people willingly ate crow on that one when it actually turned out to be an enjoyable movie (for most)

They did not, half of them just pretended they knew it was going to be good the whole time and the other half just stopped commenting. Only Riddick stuck to his guns

Me and Nova weren't being as obnoxious as everyone here once it started getting positive reviews. I was just happy it turned out good so I wouldn't eat crow

Some people here are acting like this movie sucking is the greatest thing that ever happened to them, some of the comments I get are jokes, most are funny, but some of them are really passionate hateful stuff. I get this is nothing more than a movie, I already ate crow for saying this movie is going to be good, I just think it sucks what happened to the cast and crew, I don't know why anyone would actually get joy in all of this. I personally would like to see Fox lose the rights after hearing about what went on behind the scenes.

 

[Biojex]

It almost doesn't even feel worth it to nit pick this film. i don't want to gloat over a rotting corpse. I feel pity really.

 

[pturtle]

Another thing...I don't think the actors they chose have the gravitas to deal with the super hero bits in this movie. Theyre all fine when they're doing quiet indie style scenes with (trying to be) witty dialogue back and forth, but as soon as things start to get action oriented and they need to be yelling and screaming, mourning over dead characters and proclaiming dramatic comic dialogue between villain and hero, it becomes cringe worthy very quickly...i love the actor playing papa storm and he was great through out...but his death acting was lulz

By the the time they became superheroes Kinberg was directing

The whole ending was taken out for being too dark and not comicbooky, so I think that's what the reshoots were trying to address. I can't really fault the cast in those scenes, or anyone other than the writers and Fox what happens in the last 20-30 minutes or so.

 

[Biojex]

By the the time they became superheroes Kinberg was directing

The whole ending was taken out for being too dark and not comicbooky, so I think that's what the reshoots were trying to address. I can't really fault them, or anyone other than the writers and Fox what happens in the last 20-30 minutes or so.

That's what I'm thinking. It feels like anything we say or critisize is mute at this point. We know something got ****ed up in the production so it just feels empty to say anything. Ya know?

 

[pturtle]

It's like you said, I actually pity this movie, it's sad. Funny thing is there is actually a lot I like, there was so much potential. As whole though, it's definitely a bad movie, I have to judge what Fox gave us.

 

[Khev]

pturtle I do feel bad that you didn't get a fun time at the movies out of this since you were looking forward to it so much. As much as I'm glad that Trank will now go nowhere near a Star Wars film anytime soon it's still much more fun to be pleasantly surprised like we were with DOFP.

Did the part where "They'll see it anyway" lowers his squeaky chair have people guffawing with laughter? The trailers sure seemed to think that that moment was comedy gold.

 

[pturtle]

pturtle I do feel bad that you didn't get a fun time at the movies out of this since you were looking forward to it so much.

Did the part where "They'll see it anyway" lowers his squeaky chair have people guffawing with laughter? The trailers sure seemed to think that that moment was comedy gold.

I enjoyed the hell out of this movie when I was in the theater , it was an interesting watch just seeing what Fox ended up putting together, the bad was horrible but so bad I enjoyed it because I couldn't believe what they were trying sell us and watching it was basically confirming all those rumors for me.

You're a cold man Khev

Hopefully we'll get a director's cut someday that can at least show people that the director and cast wanted to make something at least good.

 

[Khev]

How am I cold?

I give all kinds of troubled productions from all studios the benefit of the doubt. I even admitted that the first teaser for this one looked decent.