Fett Undressed

[DouglasMcc]

I would also like to agree with Micheal's assessment of cost. I would have order this thing without hesitation if it cost 225. The plastic would not have bothered me in the least. In fact, they could have probably sold 6,000 at that price point. Sure, I can already see the arguments now, "but we want a limited collectible, not a mass market toy." Well, if the item is going to be manufactured like a mass market toy, they might as well increase the edition to save us some money. But I will definitely be looking out in the future for one around 200 bucks. Don't bother right now though, most of the people selling them are collectors who bought them from SSC and are willing to give their up for the bargain BIN price of 700.00

 

[DouglasMcc]

Josh's vote can't count, he cancelled his.

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Oh well, not a problem. You will be able to buy it this Summer JL ... and you will save at least 100 bucks

 

[Michael Crawford]

So Michael - the plastic body changes how he looks?

No. I've seen some truly beautiful cubic zirconias too - but I wouldn't pay diamond prices for them.

And I have to admit I was hesitant to post my thoughts here, simply because I knew they'd just add to the firestorm. But to sum it up: A) Boba is a very fine looking bounty hunter and B) he's not a 325 clams bounty hunter.

If you feel you got what you paid for, then that's good. But as a reviewer it's my responsibility to my readers to inform the one's that HAVEN'T bought something of what to expect, not to confirm for someone that already has him whether they should be happy with him or not. Once you've laid down your money and made your purchase, it's completely up to you whether you're happy or not.

 

[IrishJedi]

No. I've seen some truly beautiful cubic zirconias too - but I wouldn't pay diamond prices for them.

Michael, did you see my earlier post where the customizer who took his PF Boba apart confirmed that it is NOT solid, but in fact is mostly hollow with a polystone slab thrown in for weight?

Just making sure you knew, so you can point that out in your review as well.

:emperor

 

[Michael Crawford]

Yep, that's helpful. So the torso is hollow with a piece of polystone inside? I'm assuming it's attached somehow, since when I shake mine I don't hear anything rattle...

 

[IrishJedi]

Yep, that's helpful. So the torso is hollow with a piece of polystone inside? I'm assuming it's attached somehow, since when I shake mine I don't hear anything rattle...

It's taped, apparently.

 

[Michael Crawford]

Hmmm - well that means they are a form of injection molding then. If they were rotocast, I doubt there'd be any way to get anything in the center. Instead, they had to mold the front and back of the torso separately and then heat seal them with the polystone inside. Interesting...

 

[Agent0028]

Kinda off topic, is the Mandalorian artifact plastic too?

 

[IrishJedi]

Hmmm - well that means they are a form of injection molding then. If they were rotocast, I doubt there'd be any way to get anything in the center. Instead, they had to mold the front and back of the torso separately and then heat seal them with the polystone inside. Interesting...

This is how he described the polystone "weight":

a slab of polystone wrapped in clear tape/plastic running down the center of the main body

 

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Just to set the correct tone going in - I'll be reviewing Fett, and I'll be slamming him hard for the plastic body.

I'm not sure where the idea that this is an injection molded body is coming from. From everything I can tell, it's hollow aka rotocast. There's no way it would be as light as it is if it were solid ABS through and through, and the neck joint and hand joints also indicate a hollow figure. In fact, solid ABS can even be more brittle than polystone - just ask the poor guys over at SOTA all the problems they had with Darkness. If that is the case, then the idea that this costs as much to mold as a solid ABS body is ridiculous. Can someone confirm whether that torso is actually solid? I'm sure the guy that customized the pose can at least tell us about the arms.

I find it amusing as well that Dave brought up the fact that the early PF's were padded wire armature and nobody minded. Of course, the runs were also only 1000, and they cost a hundred bucks less...

Buy this guy on ebay for $200. He's worth it, and that's where he's going to settle out for awhile. In fact, you may be able to get the non-exclusive even cheaper after they've been on ebay for a few weeks, but before they start slowly drying up.

For me, it's simple. Sideshow has used the excuse that the body and armor had to shrink at the same rate. If that's the case, we shouldn't see the plastic body used except on armored figures. I for one won't be buying another PF that uses the all plastic body until it's on ebay, well below retail.

Thanks Michael.

The only mistakes made by Sideshow was using a plastic body and not lowering the price a tad. ...

I think Sideshow's only mistake here, is their arrogance. Sometimes they feed us with ambiguous information, and when you tell them that, they tell you to stop buying from them, and get your stuff elsewhere.

 

[IrishJedi]

Kinda off topic, is the Mandalorian artifact plastic too?

No, it's pretty much the only thing that is polystone.

 

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Kinda off topic, is the Mandalorian artifact plastic too?

Heh... funny. I don't know if it is made from plastic, but I do know, it is pretty superfluous!

 

[Michael Crawford]

Well, it is possible for the torso and arms (and legs!) to be hollow and not be rotocast. As I said earlier, if there's something in the middle they must have used injection molding to create the two halfs of the parts and then sealed them together. I suspect this was done to give the walls of the body extra strength.

I had another question about the body - are the arms and legs seperate pieces from the torso? At least the arms appear to be in the one photo...

 

[Agent0028]

Well, I bought the exclusive from sideshow instead of the regular from a retailer for less because I actually kinda like the artifact, so I just see it as paying more that so it damn well better be made of polystone.

 

[The Josh]

Ya know the next time I read that I'm looking through rose colored glass I think I just might scream. I'm giving my two cents, opinion, whatever you wanna say. It's my POV and just because it doesn't match the masses that are against whatever it automatically becomes rose colored. I say that's just BS and spin to make that group feel better. Also I read that I'm in denial. What exactly am I in denial of? It's my POV and my outlook based on the information given to me by SS a source I trust.

As far as Michael having me beat. On what exactly does he have me beat. Oh his opinion. Is this a freaking game? Did he shoot his opinion from 3pt land and swish it? Did I call a Time Out left when I didn't have any and he made the Free Throws. Did my opinion become a hanging slider that he crushed to win Game 7 of the World Series?

I love it when I disagree with someone's opinion I'm bad guy and whatever else. Yet, when people do the same to me it goes by without a second thought.

I had to axe mine because right now he just doesn't fit in funds wise.

I honestly think if Jesus Christ himself came down and said what I or Dave have been saying you'd tell him he was wrong too.

 

[Kookie]

Jlcmsu...I give you a lot of credit, you stand up for what you believe and you say it. Your a Sideshow Freak and you love Sideshow and it's cool...you don't try to act like your a Sideshow Freak by posting on this board then complain about everything they do.

I've sometimes wondered myself why some on this board come here when clearly everything Sideshow does causes them to have bi-polar depression.

I respect the diplomatic ways you handle the remarks towards you...I would just tell them to **** off Clearly I'm not so diplomatic.

I come to this board because, like you I love collecting from Sideshow, it's that simple. If I'm also accused of looking at things through rose-colored glass then I'm sorry for being a fan and maybe this truly isn't the place for others who find so much fault in what Sideshow does. No offense, but from some of the continued hate some people throw at Sideshow I wonder why some people even come here.

It's ironic that people label others here "Sideshow Cheerleaders" when we ALL belong to a Sideshow Freaks board...isn't that the point!!!

And before anyone posts, in a witty attempt, to discredit my comments....NO...We don't have to love EVERYTHING...but we also don't have to beat the issue to death like a pimp who didn't get his nightly take.

 

[kodiak8658]

Okay, I have been the first to question when jlmsu came off too strong or sounded condescending. However, that doesn't mean we have to be the same way towards him. Because, in all honesty, he has you beat on one key point: if he truly is happy with his Boba, then he wins ... end of story for him.

This isn't a contest so him 'having me beat' really doesn't matter. True some people pay...and overpay for an item when they really like it and want to add it to their collection. But him singing praises about an item that is marginal at best and he doesn't even own has probably got more than several people curious as to why. Perhaps only his therapist knows the real reasons behind his crush on SS. Thanks for defending him since he decided my kind of in your face posts were not his cup of tea and put me on his ignore list. Tisk tisk.

 

[kodiak8658]

Actually it's quite beautiful.

 

[kodiak8658]

Just to set the correct tone going in - I'll be reviewing Fett, and I'll be slamming him hard for the plastic body.

I'm not sure where the idea that this is an injection molded body is coming from. From everything I can tell, it's hollow aka rotocast. There's no way it would be as light as it is if it were solid ABS through and through, and the neck joint and hand joints also indicate a hollow figure. In fact, solid ABS can even be more brittle than polystone - just ask the poor guys over at SOTA all the problems they had with Darkness. If that is the case, then the idea that this costs as much to mold as a solid ABS body is ridiculous. Can someone confirm whether that torso is actually solid? I'm sure the guy that customized the pose can at least tell us about the arms.

I find it amusing as well that Dave brought up the fact that the early PF's were padded wire armature and nobody minded. Of course, the runs were also only 1000, and they cost a hundred bucks less...

Buy this guy on ebay for $200. He's worth it, and that's where he's going to settle out for awhile. In fact, you may be able to get the non-exclusive even cheaper after they've been on ebay for a few weeks, but before they start slowly drying up.

For me, it's simple. Sideshow has used the excuse that the body and armor had to shrink at the same rate. If that's the case, we shouldn't see the plastic body used except on armored figures. I for one won't be buying another PF that uses the all plastic body until it's on ebay, well below retail.

Thanks Michael for giving the naysayers confirmation from a reliable source of a less than stellar SS product. Maybe people will actually consider the perceptive posts of others before they hand down sentence and start throwing their stones.

 

[Kookie]

So what exactly is Micheal confirming for the "naysayers"?